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Tommy was this an act of racism?

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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,848

    You seem to have a hard-on for calling black people monkeys and chimps. I can only read the words you wrote and form an opinion on them, “centrist.”
    As I thought. No game.

    Any time you want to reconsider princess, I'm right here.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    A judge passing a sentence isn’t a crime. Murder is.

    Other than that, you’re doing great!
    Tommy, you've cried wolf one too many times to be taken seriously when you throw "racism" or "murder" around.

    And you did it to yourself.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    When to you the most horrifying aspect of seeing a man shot to death is that the shooter is accused of being motivated by racism, you’ve got issues or you’re just stirring up shit for the rubles. blob has issues; you’ve suddenly shown up in another Presidential election year, just like four years ago. The jury’s out on your motives, Comrade.
    You call yourself a lawyer and THAT's your analysis? Kreist! The Bar will take anyone these days, won't they?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,418
    Pump told me you were all chimps and single
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    It's been a while since we've seen a poster self-immolate and shit all over himself quite like @NorthwestFresh. And in what should be his safe space.

    Fucking pathetic.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Tommy, you've cried wolf one too many times to be taken seriously when you throw "racism" or "murder" around.

    And you did it to yourself.
    Cried wolf?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.

    I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.

    To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"

    If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.

    You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.

    Surely you agree with this.


    No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    SFGbob said:

    No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
    W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.

    Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.

    Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
    Why do you think of black people when you think of monkeys Tommy? Were leftist trying to insult Bush by calling him a black man when they called him "Chimpy?"

    I was calling a President a Chimp, when I called Obama "O'Chimp" which is what I thought was the acceptable way to refer to Presidents. Trumpanzee, Chimpy, and O'Chimpy.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,848
    SFGbob said:

    No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
    Like I said, I wasn't there, don't appreciate the context, and thus offered, and offer, no commentary.

    My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.

    I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,848
    Like I said, I wasn't there, don't appreciate the context, and thus offered no commentary on the origins of this.

    My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.

    I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.

    Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
    And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
    I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTD
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    Cried wolf?
    Yes, "wolf." You know, the furry things that look like giant Huskies, run around in the woods, kill and eat cows and chickens...Yup, those things.

    You keep saying they are attacking the sheep without any evidence to support it. So yes, your allegations of "isms" are met with "Meh."
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter

    I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTD
    Trite as usual, @insinceredawg.

    Be a better poaster. It starts with effort, you lazy fuck.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
    Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.

    It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.

    What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2020
    Yes tommy, those little crazy voices in your head? You own em, buddy.

    All your fault!
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,418

    Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.

    It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.

    What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
    Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantly
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantly
    Constantly
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTD
    Yeah because that's just like having a black wife and three black kids. Stick to swallowing like a bitch Russia collusion bullshit IC, you suck at everything else.

    This is where you post your lie that I pushed Pizzagate.
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