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WAR! with China. No other way forward?

doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinese-report-warns-potential-war-us-over-coronavirus-backlash
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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,894
    edited May 2020
    This is probably going to happen anyway.


    May as well do it now. I mean we have no Sports on TV. We will have to live without our smartphones, at least those that have the Huawei shit inside. But as long as it's televised, let's get this over with.
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,534 Swaye's Wigwam
    Eh, don’t think there will ever be anything besides maybe a proxy war in Korea or somewhere in Africa. Too much dependency on both sides.
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,763 Standard Supporter
    Will the TV stations give daily dead counts? for both sides of course

    112,000 to 75,000 bottom of the first
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 45,732 Standard Supporter
    It won't be a conventional war. We are already in a war with them. They used a virus. We are going to use the power of finance and gold reserves and technology. The Hong Kong riots didn't just stop because of the VID. There's still crazy unrest in China.

    But but mean orange man - and where is Hunter Biden these days?

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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,763 Standard Supporter
    Conventional warfare is more fun - helps industry more.

    Too bad we stopped developing the neutron bomb, better for the winners you don't have to rebuild
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  • PandaOrangeChiknDuckPandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.
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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,971 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    We are already in a proxy war with them. Unrestricted warfare.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgqPaqUt80

    Thanks for that video UDB. I learned a lot in that 25 minutes.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.
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  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    70,000? Tommy, where are you getting this number because CDC website says 38,575 US Covid deaths as of today

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,992 Standard Supporter
    PurpleThrobber said:

    It won't be a conventional war. We are already in a war with them. They used a virus. We are going to use the power of finance and gold reserves and technology. The Hong Kong riots didn't just stop because of the VID. There's still crazy unrest in China.

    But but mean orange man - and where is Hunter Biden these days?

    Probably sitting on the Board of Kurdistan's National Oil Council.
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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,800 Swaye's Wigwam
    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
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  • PandaOrangeChiknDuckPandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
    Glad I wasn’t the only one rooting for the buckeyes
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  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,664
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
    Were we discussing it in the context of Obama giving up the S China Sea?
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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,992 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    Yup. The Left is great at discussing things to death, usually with no favorable outcome, nor any progress besides kicking the can down the road.

    The Left is great at acting out, like melodramatically tearing up a copy of a speech for the news cameras after the speech was already given, seen and heard.

    Trump rolled up the TPP deal and shoved it up China's ass before they discussed anything. I like that method better.
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

    This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.

    If only there was some sort of trade agreement where the US could lead friendly Asian and American countries to counter the chicoms...

    TPP was negotiated to counter the chicoms by surrounding them with a free trade group that included the most robust IP protections ever negotiated in a trade deal. The Chinese celebrated when Trump pulled out. After we left the other countries stripped the IP protections we’d insisted on and ratified it anyway. There continues to be rumblings about China joining the cptpp now that many of the measures we insisted on have been removed.
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