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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?

    When joe Biden was bought by China?

    Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
    I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.
    That wasn't your point

    Do you need help remembering Joe?
    I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.
    Still wasn't your point

    Keep struggling in every thread
    Well then explain this “support” you’ve accused me of. Strike one was Clinton, strike 2 was Joe. Care for a third try?
    JFC

    If you struggle this bad to follow a thread what the is the point?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    might as well bring back hondo at this point
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,028
    doogie said:

    might as well bring back hondo at this point

    Whoa..whoa...whoa... Let's not get all Inslee in our overreaction to a temporary situation.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?

    When joe Biden was bought by China?

    Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
    I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.
    That wasn't your point

    Do you need help remembering Joe?
    I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.
    Still wasn't your point

    Keep struggling in every thread
    Well then explain this “support” you’ve accused me of. Strike one was Clinton, strike 2 was Joe. Care for a third try?
    JFC

    If you struggle this bad to follow a thread what the is the point?
    “People you support killed the economy”

    Defend your statement. This isn’t hard.

    At least it’s not as hard as you’re making it out to be.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?

    When joe Biden was bought by China?

    Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
    I never voted for a Clinton, Boomer.
    That wasn't your point

    Do you need help remembering Joe?
    I didn’t vote for him either. Keep making incorrect assumptions, it amuses me.
    Still wasn't your point

    Keep struggling in every thread
    Well then explain this “support” you’ve accused me of. Strike one was Clinton, strike 2 was Joe. Care for a third try?
    JFC

    If you struggle this bad to follow a thread what the is the point?
    “People you support killed the economy”

    Defend your statement. This isn’t hard.

    At least it’s not as hard as you’re making it out to be.
    That wasn't even this thread for fucks sakes

    This is about all that tuff talk about China that means Trump doesn't get any credit

    Get some help Joe
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    When Bill Clinton traded missile tech for Chi Com campaign money?

    When joe Biden was bought by China?

    Discussing as a threat while selling out. Good job
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    Inslee. Different subject

    But I am sure you didn't vote for him either

    Fuck off
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,747 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,050 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

    This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.

    If only there was some sort of trade agreement where the US could lead friendly Asian and American countries to counter the chicoms...

    TPP was negotiated to counter the chicoms by surrounding them with a free trade group that included the most robust IP protections ever negotiated in a trade deal. The Chinese celebrated when Trump pulled out. After we left the other countries stripped the IP protections we’d insisted on and ratified it anyway. There continues to be rumblings about China joining the cptpp now that many of the measures we insisted on have been removed.
    The TPP was super flawed and I think it's dumb to put the USA which has all the negotiating power into a group and pretend we are all the knights at the round table. This is why the UN is fucking stupid and completely unprincipled. It's peak ObamaFS faith in "cooperative globalism" where bad actors just say nice things while breaking all the rules bc there are no consequences from toothless and/or corrupt institutions(The WTO has rules!!).

    That said, I want to see Trump work on bilateral free trade deals with countries. We are the big dick, swing it and get some deals made.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    What uncle?
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
    Que???
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,050 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    Both sides of the establishment's plan was "opening" while pocketing the cash themselves. Cirodawg was the champion of exactly that.

    The populist Left has no problem with communism and sees the CCP as a model.

    Who else you got that was going to do anything other than pay lip service?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
    Que???
    You were crying last week about how a family member was dying from Covid and all but admitted that you thought it was Trump's fault.

    I know it's hard to keep your hysterics in line.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
    Que???
    You were crying last week about how a family member was dying from Covid and all but admitted that you thought it was Trump's fault.

    I know it's hard to keep your hysterics in line.
    Oh, you think this is real.

    Yikes.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
    Que???
    You were crying last week about how a family member was dying from Covid and all but admitted that you thought it was Trump's fault.

    I know it's hard to keep your hysterics in line.
    Oh, you think this is real.

    Yikes.
    Oh so not only are you hysterical like a 16 y/o girl, you also lie like one.

    You just keep on doin you Tommy.


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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    salemcoog said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    I’m hearing this wasn’t even in this thread.
    things change all the time in a thread
    Nothing changed with me...
    Certainly not. The same SJW. Only now doubles down in feelings first policy due to the TDS.

    How's the Uncle doin?

    Trump kill him yet?
    Que???
    You were crying last week about how a family member was dying from Covid and all but admitted that you thought it was Trump's fault.

    I know it's hard to keep your hysterics in line.
    Oh, you think this is real.

    Yikes.
    Oh so not only are you hysterical like a 16 y/o girl, you also lie like one.

    You just keep on doin you Tommy.


    It’s like you just found out Santa isn’t real.

    You need a hug, buddy?
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