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WAR! with China. No other way forward?

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    70,000? Tommy, where are you getting this number because CDC website says 38,575 US Covid deaths as of today

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    PurpleThrobber said:

    It won't be a conventional war. We are already in a war with them. They used a virus. We are going to use the power of finance and gold reserves and technology. The Hong Kong riots didn't just stop because of the VID. There's still crazy unrest in China.

    But but mean orange man - and where is Hunter Biden these days?

    Probably sitting on the Board of Kurdistan's National Oil Council.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,634 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
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  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
    Glad I wasn’t the only one rooting for the buckeyes
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,518 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    People you support killed the economy. And you cheered them on.
    People I support? That’s like blaming me for Chris Petersen’s loss in the Rose Bowl.
    Were we discussing it in the context of Obama giving up the S China Sea?
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020
    ThomasFremont said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    I like to give Trump credit for winning some imaginary economic war while at the same time acknowledging that China unleashed a virus that has already killed 70,000 Americans (and counting) AND has killed the US economy. Doesn’t sound like winning tbh.

    Wish you guys would root for America for a change.

    There's plenty of shit to give Trump but he was definitely FIRST regarding China.

    Even more so because our establishment was and still is in bed with the CCP.

    "These aren't bad people."
    Excuse me? Trump was FIRST??? Rewind the tape, my dude. We’ve been discussing China as a threat since the days when Trump was just a reality TV star without a drop of political juice (beyond what he donated to the Clinton family).
    Yup. The Left is great at discussing things to death, usually with no favorable outcome, nor any progress besides kicking the can down the road.

    The Left is great at acting out, like melodramatically tearing up a copy of a speech for the news cameras after the speech was already given, seen and heard.

    Trump rolled up the TPP deal and shoved it up China's ass before they discussed anything. I like that method better.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck said:

    This will be fought as an economic war. If the US provides companies incentives to move manufacturing to other countries (taiwan, singapore, philippines , indonesia, vietnam, thailand, poorer African countries, etc.) China would implode. This can only be done in the long term, since the US is still dependent on Chinese imports. But say in 5-10 years, if the US is able to transfer 50-60% of their manufacturing away from China, the Chinese economy would die.

    If only there was some sort of trade agreement where the US could lead friendly Asian and American countries to counter the chicoms...

    TPP was negotiated to counter the chicoms by surrounding them with a free trade group that included the most robust IP protections ever negotiated in a trade deal. The Chinese celebrated when Trump pulled out. After we left the other countries stripped the IP protections we’d insisted on and ratified it anyway. There continues to be rumblings about China joining the cptpp now that many of the measures we insisted on have been removed.
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