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Dispelling the Gate's conspiracy theories
RoadTrip
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Curious as to why so many conspiracy theories have been floating around I did a quick internet search on the subject and came across this article. Although the article makes logical sense in regard to denouncing the accusations against Gates, I found the following somewhat problematic. Wouldn't a tattoo regardless of size or visibility be in fact a tracking mechanism? Who cares if Gruener or the article makes no mention of digital or biometric technology? Do we really want to start tracking people like this?
https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-coronavirus-vaccine-misinformation
"Is there anything to it?
The accusations against ID2020 are clearly false but, as with much misinformation, grains of truth in the conspiracy theory are being spun into the bigger lie. A couple of examples:
A recent experimental study, seized upon by the conspiracists, describes a skin patch used on rats that delivered a vaccine and a “quantum dot” at the same time. The tiny tattoo only becomes visible under a near-infrared light. The authors suggest the technology could be useful “in the developing world” for “intradermal on-person vaccination recordkeeping”. The experiment was partially funded by the Gates Foundation. Its abstract has been viewed tens of thousands of times on a science journal’s website.
Some of the “alt-right” commentary focuses on a “UN plan”: that may refer to the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals, which include a target to “provide legal identity to all, including birth registration, by 2030”. It makes no mention of digital or biometric technology.
Gruener told TNH she saw ID2020 as collateral damage for conspiracy theorists: “We are part of a bigger vortex.”"
https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2020/04/15/id2020-coronavirus-vaccine-misinformation
"Is there anything to it?
The accusations against ID2020 are clearly false but, as with much misinformation, grains of truth in the conspiracy theory are being spun into the bigger lie. A couple of examples:
A recent experimental study, seized upon by the conspiracists, describes a skin patch used on rats that delivered a vaccine and a “quantum dot” at the same time. The tiny tattoo only becomes visible under a near-infrared light. The authors suggest the technology could be useful “in the developing world” for “intradermal on-person vaccination recordkeeping”. The experiment was partially funded by the Gates Foundation. Its abstract has been viewed tens of thousands of times on a science journal’s website.
Some of the “alt-right” commentary focuses on a “UN plan”: that may refer to the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals, which include a target to “provide legal identity to all, including birth registration, by 2030”. It makes no mention of digital or biometric technology.
Gruener told TNH she saw ID2020 as collateral damage for conspiracy theorists: “We are part of a bigger vortex.”"
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If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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Robert Kennedy Jr. is alt right? The 5G crowd seems to be filled with a bunch of hollywood loons.GreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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Fair. I never meant to suggest that the alt right has a monopoly on anti-science lunacy. Just that they're the dominant player.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Robert Kennedy Jr. is alt right? The 5G crowd seems to be filled with a bunch of hollywood loons.GreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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Yeah, they're all over the place and both sides profit from giving them the time of day. We have to pissed off about something right?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Fair. I never meant to suggest that the alt right has a monopoly on anti-science lunacy. Just that they're the dominant player.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Robert Kennedy Jr. is alt right? The 5G crowd seems to be filled with a bunch of hollywood loons.GreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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Waiting for the dispelling part.
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2,500,000 Americans DEAD in 60 days unless you follow Orders from Central CommandGreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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There are people who question emergency preparedness drills at every level out of extreme paranoia. I didn’t start doing it until around the 3rd grade when they made us hold hands with a buddy as we did our fire drill. Why would they do that? What were the Zionist-globalists trying to communicate that day?salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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Well I have always been a prepper. Pulling false fire alarms all through school just to be ready
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Just confirming what you already suspected?MelloDawg said:
There are people who question emergency preparedness drills at every level out of extreme paranoia. I didn’t start doing it until around the 3rd grade when they made us hold hands with a buddy as we did our fire drill. Why would they do that? What were the Zionist-globalists trying to communicate that day?salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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No they aren't. Most anti-vaxers are leftists.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Fair. I never meant to suggest that the alt right has a monopoly on anti-science lunacy. Just that they're the dominant player.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Robert Kennedy Jr. is alt right? The 5G crowd seems to be filled with a bunch of hollywood loons.GreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
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So are most of the 17 gender crowd
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Good post. I'm dizzy from all this shit. Here's where I come out on most of it. I have no fucking idea. People go after theories that seem implausible and often contradict themselves. But then sometimes those same people point shit out that does at least give me pause.
As to left and right, I've found that distinction to be less and less useful over time. People are all over the place with their views, and when it comes down to it, many are just issue-specific. -
You're such a fucking retard.salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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In my neck of the woods and in my anecdotal sample, Greenie would be correct. The vast majority of people I know who jump on these things, and anti-vax specifically, are what we call today right wing. Of course, as I just posted, those labels aren't very precise any more. Maybe they never were. The conspiracy stuff is borne out of deep suspicion of government, and a lot of that today is found in what look to me like right wing groups who are obsessed with their focused on the left, Hilary, Obama, etc. You had the birther stuff, Obama's name and thus his alleged role as a secret Muslim agent, Hilary and her penchant for having her adversaries snuffed out, Pizza Porn Gate, etc. Think Alex Jones. If that's not right wing, then so be it. Give me the right name and I'll use it. But that kind of crowd is the political group to which I refer.SFGbob said:
No they aren't. Most anti-vaxers are leftists.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Fair. I never meant to suggest that the alt right has a monopoly on anti-science lunacy. Just that they're the dominant player.DuckHHunterisafag said:
Robert Kennedy Jr. is alt right? The 5G crowd seems to be filled with a bunch of hollywood loons.GreenRiverGatorz said:If you become prominent in any field of science you're going to eventually become a target of alt right loons.
THat is not to say that there isn't plenty of shit to be smeared around. On the left, there is an assumption about their rightness that borders on religious piety. And many other deficiencies, which include assuming a lot into debate that is in fact quite debatable.
But it is the Alex Jones-esque crowd - many of them in my family and broader social circle - who claim to have access to "fair and unbiased" sources of information that apparently I'm too stupid or limited in my research abilities to find. Again, call them what you will. Right, left, alt, other. I know them when I see them. -
Do I need to get on my scooter and Drag you up the Capitol steps.dflea said:
You're such a fucking retard.salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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You could try. Vespa?salemcoog said:
Do I need to get on my scooter and Drag you up the Capitol steps.dflea said:
You're such a fucking retard.salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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The article in the original post did a pretty good job up until the end where the author starts admitting Gates' work or companies affiliated with the foundation in regard to tracking vaccinated humans with imbedded tattoos. He says there's no mention of biometrics or chips but a deeper dive into other articles shows investment by the Gates foundation into other companies which are actively pursuing this technology so who freaking knows?Sledog said:Waiting for the dispelling part.
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Moar of a Honda Ruckus kind of guy. It really fits my machismo.dflea said:
You could try. Vespa?salemcoog said:
Do I need to get on my scooter and Drag you up the Capitol steps.dflea said:
You're such a fucking retard.salemcoog said:
Totally the same thing. Way to bring it to a level that everyone can understand.MelloDawg said:
I do fire drills at work every couple months. I think something is up. No one is talking about it or reporting on it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Yeah but doesn't it SEEM suspicious??USMChawk said:
I’ve participated in a number of exercises which involved both State and Federal agencies. The scenarios ranged from chemical spill responses to stolen nuclear materials. These exercises happen all the time, all over the country.salemcoog said:It does seem suspicious that He and Johns Hopkins did an extensive mock Pandemic in October 2019.
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One plausible explanation for that, and one which I would tend to buy over some theory that Gates wants to assume global power like some kind of cartoon villain, is that he's excessively worried about one single issue, and when people do that they tend to ignore the guardrails and pursue their agenda for the agenda's sake and forget that blowing up civil liberties, like rights to privacy, etc., is a very bad idea. In other words, I doubt Gates wants to chip everybody because at the last quarterly meeting of the global elite he was tasked with that item, but rather that he's too enthusiastic about eradicating disease and is either willing to dispense with elements of liberty, or being careless. That I would believe.DuckHHunterisafag said:
The article in the original post did a pretty good job up until the end where the author starts admitting Gates' work or companies affiliated with the foundation in regard to tracking vaccinated humans with imbedded tattoos. He says there's no mention of biometrics or chips but a deeper dive into other articles shows investment by the Gates foundation into other companies which are actively pursuing this technology so who freaking knows?Sledog said:Waiting for the dispelling part.
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When I was a youth we had a wing of the family that were John Birchers out in the country in what is now developed West Olympia. We thought they were odd but they were still at the big holiday dinners. We had a blow out one Easter over Vietnam. One of the boys was at Khe San. Good guy but he had a permanent thousand mile stare.
In my family there was the right way to think and right wing nutjobs. The left didn't even come up.
Reagan, the 80's and Rush brought the left the same kind of bad pub the right used to get.
Now everyone does it. I'm a right wing Trump dick sucker who voted for his first GOP in 2004. And it would have been my last but the whole trump dick sucker thing. He's not GOP or a conservative which means Creep has a point
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Gates has double-patty case of the 'Bergers.creepycoug said:
One plausible explanation for that, and one which I would tend to buy over some theory that Gates wants to assume global power like some kind of cartoon villain, is that he's excessively worried about one single issue, and when people do that they tend to ignore the guardrails and pursue their agenda for the agenda's sake and forget that blowing up civil liberties, like rights to privacy, etc., is a very bad idea. In other words, I doubt Gates wants to chip everybody because at the last quarterly meeting of the global elite he was tasked with that item, but rather that he's too enthusiastic about eradicating disease and is either willing to dispense with elements of liberty, or being careless. That I would believe.DuckHHunterisafag said:
The article in the original post did a pretty good job up until the end where the author starts admitting Gates' work or companies affiliated with the foundation in regard to tracking vaccinated humans with imbedded tattoos. He says there's no mention of biometrics or chips but a deeper dive into other articles shows investment by the Gates foundation into other companies which are actively pursuing this technology so who freaking knows?Sledog said:Waiting for the dispelling part.
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By the way the Birch wing of the family were early pioneers of health food, and started a chain of health food stores. That was and is seen as a hippie type thing.
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Ends of the horse shoe.RaceBannon said:By the way the Birch wing of the family were early pioneers of health food, and started a chain of health food stores. That was and is seen as a hippie type thing.
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Gates is part of the true progressives that want to depopulate the earth IMO.DuckHHunterisafag said:
The article in the original post did a pretty good job up until the end where the author starts admitting Gates' work or companies affiliated with the foundation in regard to tracking vaccinated humans with imbedded tattoos. He says there's no mention of biometrics or chips but a deeper dive into other articles shows investment by the Gates foundation into other companies which are actively pursuing this technology so who freaking knows?Sledog said:Waiting for the dispelling part.
Odd he'd pick vaccines as his huge philanthropy. Since they make billions on vaccines who needs Bill for that purpose? People get rich and do stupid shit because they think they matter because they have wealth. They don't. -
Derp.Sledog said:
Gates is part of the true progressives that want to depopulate the earth IMO.DuckHHunterisafag said:
The article in the original post did a pretty good job up until the end where the author starts admitting Gates' work or companies affiliated with the foundation in regard to tracking vaccinated humans with imbedded tattoos. He says there's no mention of biometrics or chips but a deeper dive into other articles shows investment by the Gates foundation into other companies which are actively pursuing this technology so who freaking knows?Sledog said:Waiting for the dispelling part.
Odd he'd pick vaccines as his huge philanthropy. Since they make billions on vaccines who needs Bill for that purpose? People get rich and do stupid shit because they think they matter because they have wealth. They don't.
