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Phoenix $26,000,000 in the hole

Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,930
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But it's totally worth it because the draconian meaures prolonged the life of two 85 year olds by four months!!!!!!

108 Wuhan Flu deaths in a state over 7.2 million

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/04/10/phoenix-faces-26-million-budget-deficit-covid-19-impact/5131924002/?fbclid=IwAR3OKp-N8V7VUDKOsE_HnyAPMagVaucPByMUWsaHNraA74Zcw5N3Vxo9QWY

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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Strips clubs are gonna be filled with mid level bureaucrats when they open

    As dancers, you mean
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,414
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    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Imagine how grim it could have been though...
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,559
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    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
    I don't think Chinslee is that smart myself
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    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,184
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    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
    Sounds exciting, though I think declaring an emergency in the midst of a public health crisis allows federal money on a guilt-free level.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    MelloDawg said:

    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
    Sounds exciting, though I think declaring an emergency in the midst of a public health crisis allows federal money on a guilt-free level.
    PR stunt. And since it’s federal money it’s FREE PUB!
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,088
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    MelloDawg said:

    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
    Sounds exciting, though I think declaring an emergency in the midst of a public health crisis allows federal money on a guilt-free level.
    PR stunt. And since it’s federal money it’s FREE PUB!
    Totally.

    This debacle is going to put the hurt on municipalities all over the country. The obliteration of the economy will hammer the finances of city and county governments. Tax receipts are going to plummet.

    If there's any upside, perhaps the local governments will finally have some stones and make some changes in their operations. They could start with decertifying unions for all employees who are sucking at the teet of sweet gubmint pensions, then broom the non-performers.




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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    MelloDawg said:

    It's a massive money grab and/or reallocation of resources depending on where you're at in the food chain.

    See also Benito Inslee's construction of a field hospital at Century Link, millions of dollars of waste - only to be dismantled days later.

    That Century Link thing was dismantled only 7+ days later. Is there any conceivable way Inslee didn't know it would soon be torn down?

    It was probably him going "Set it up and take dramatic photos of it. That way we can justify taking the federal money. Then we'll tear it down and offer it to the highest bidder", or whatever.
    Sounds exciting, though I think declaring an emergency in the midst of a public health crisis allows federal money on a guilt-free level.
    PR stunt. And since it’s federal money it’s FREE PUB!
    Totally.

    This debacle is going to put the hurt on municipalities all over the country. The obliteration of the economy will hammer the finances of city and county governments. Tax receipts are going to plummet.

    If there's any upside, perhaps the local governments will finally have some stones and make some changes in their operations. They could start with decertifying unions for all employees who are sucking at the teet of sweet gubmint pensions, then broom the non-performers.




    Not a chance. They’ll proclaim victory and raise taxes.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    What many people are ignoring is that many states UI funds will run out and the states will have to start borrowing money from the Feds once that happens. Some states are in better shape than others, but any numbers as to how many weeks that the funds ACTUALLY have left in them are all null and void as this is unprecedented X 5.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,088
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    salemcoog said:

    What many people are ignoring is that many states UI funds will run out and the states will have to start borrowing money from the Feds once that happens. Some states are in better shape than others, but any numbers as to how many weeks that the funds ACTUALLY have left in them are all null and void as this is unprecedented X 5.

    Always remember the golden rule of finance. He who has the gold makes the rules.

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    PandaOrangeChiknDuckPandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
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    I think this is going to hit states relying on sales tax much harder than states without a sales tax. Income taxes will also be impacted, but states like California that rely heavily on both are screwed.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,632
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    I think this is going to hit states relying on sales tax much harder than states without a sales tax. Income taxes will also be impacted, but states like California that rely heavily on both are screwed.

    Cali can do whatever they want
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    salemcoog said:

    What many people are ignoring is that many states UI funds will run out and the states will have to start borrowing money from the Feds once that happens. Some states are in better shape than others, but any numbers as to how many weeks that the funds ACTUALLY have left in them are all null and void as this is unprecedented X 5.

    Always remember the golden rule of finance. He who has the gold makes the rules.

    As of a couple weeks ago, Oregon had $5.5 Billion in their fund. That’s way too much for a state with 4 million people. So Oregon will onviously be ok.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,088
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    salemcoog said:


    salemcoog said:

    What many people are ignoring is that many states UI funds will run out and the states will have to start borrowing money from the Feds once that happens. Some states are in better shape than others, but any numbers as to how many weeks that the funds ACTUALLY have left in them are all null and void as this is unprecedented X 5.

    Always remember the golden rule of finance. He who has the gold makes the rules.

    As of a couple weeks ago, Oregon had $5.5 Billion in their fund. That’s way too much for a state with 4 million people. So Oregon will onviously be ok.
    Adolph Newsom is going to take it in the ass by the financiers.

    IN THE ASS!!!!

    Benito Inslee might get by with just a facial.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,269
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    salemcoog said:


    salemcoog said:

    What many people are ignoring is that many states UI funds will run out and the states will have to start borrowing money from the Feds once that happens. Some states are in better shape than others, but any numbers as to how many weeks that the funds ACTUALLY have left in them are all null and void as this is unprecedented X 5.

    Always remember the golden rule of finance. He who has the gold makes the rules.

    As of a couple weeks ago, Oregon had $5.5 Billion in their fund. That’s way too much for a state with 4 million people. So Oregon will onviously be ok.
    All that income tax from Ducks getting those high paying pump jockey jobs!
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