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  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    Swaye said:

    But HHusky said all the medical examiners and scientists don't do this.

    "Yesterday, Dr. Deborah Birx finally let the secret out during the daily press conference in response to a reporter’s question. “I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx, who along with Dr. Anthony Fauci has become the face of this push for a national lockdown.

    “There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

    “The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” concluded Birx."

    This is ridiculous. Late stage ass cancer but catch COVID when you were on your death bed, COVID death. Yeah, right. Fear train leaves at noon.
    So if a Gangbanger comes in to the ER with a gun shot wound to the head, test + for covid ... Covid'd ... Does that mean the perp walks free now?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,740 Standard Supporter
    YouKnowIt said:

    Swaye said:

    But HHusky said all the medical examiners and scientists don't do this.

    "Yesterday, Dr. Deborah Birx finally let the secret out during the daily press conference in response to a reporter’s question. “I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx, who along with Dr. Anthony Fauci has become the face of this push for a national lockdown.

    “There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

    “The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” concluded Birx."

    This is ridiculous. Late stage ass cancer but catch COVID when you were on your death bed, COVID death. Yeah, right. Fear train leaves at noon.
    So if a Gangbanger comes in to the ER with a gun shot wound to the head, test + for covid ... Covid'd ... Does that mean the perp walks free now?
    Only if HH is a prosecutor.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,935 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Tequilla said:

    Swaye said:

    But HHusky said all the medical examiners and scientists don't do this.

    "Yesterday, Dr. Deborah Birx finally let the secret out during the daily press conference in response to a reporter’s question. “I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx, who along with Dr. Anthony Fauci has become the face of this push for a national lockdown.

    “There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

    “The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” concluded Birx."

    This is ridiculous. Late stage ass cancer but catch COVID when you were on your death bed, COVID death. Yeah, right. Fear train leaves at noon.
    I’m really interested in seeing the results from the Stanford study

    I think we find that mortality rates are far lower than we think and that it has already spread through the population far more than we think

    I also expect that study will immediately get discredited by those that don’t like that narrative
    This. We need some legit hard data, not made up to fit a fear narrative bullshit that is going on now.
    The government can't be this wrong. They won't let hard data make them this wrong. Time to triple down. Save lives! Be safe! It's working! Just a few more months! We are all in this together!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,740 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,496
    Anyone who pays any attention at all knows the cases and deaths are undercounted. The only question is how much they are undercounted.

    Testing is minimal and scattershot. Another thing Daddy lies to you about.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited April 2020
    HHusky said:

    Anyone who pays any attention at all knows the cases and deaths are undercounted. The only question is how much they are undercounted.

    Testing is minimal and scattershot. Another thing Daddy lies to you about.

    Hopeless case. And maybe you should actually read the news. They have admitted to many deaths where corona may or may have not been the cause of death. but put it in that column anyway.

    We also know that there have been thousands of less pneumonia deaths than normal the last month. As well as deaths by heart failure. I agree that there are many more cases than reported. Most of them recovered already. But the deaths directly from corona are at least 25 % over reported.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    Sledog said:

    No beds, no ventilators, medical facilities over flowing......

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-field-hospital-coronavirus-dismantle

    https://www.koin.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-oregon-clinic-furloughs-820-employees-due-to-covid-19/

    Oregon clinic lays off 820 today. This is going on at clinics and hospitals all over the country.

    And we were told that we needed to shut down, to beat the curve and make sure that the hospitals weren't over run.

    I'd say the job is done. Let's get people back to work.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,414 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    No beds, no ventilators, medical facilities over flowing......

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-field-hospital-coronavirus-dismantle

    https://www.koin.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-oregon-clinic-furloughs-820-employees-due-to-covid-19/

    Oregon clinic lays off 820 today. This is going on at clinics and hospitals all over the country.

    And we were told that we needed to shut down, to beat the curve and make sure that the hospitals weren't over run.

    I'd say the job is done. Let's get people back to work.
    Exactly, the whole reason for distancing/shutdown was for flattening the curve was capacity and supplies. That part isn’t a problem seemingly except for a place or two.

    So what’s the current argument for continuing it? It’s now shifted to damage control over inflated models.