Serious Question
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
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In a certain sense it's mass hypnosis.
"Nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced." - Albert Einstein -
And what's the point anyway? If we are so worried about transmission why is Wal Mart open? And gas stations? And banks? And McDonald's? Selective lock downs accomplish nothing. Grocery stores are packed everywhere. It's cool to get your Covid at Safeway, but heaven help you if you are caught fishing, alone, at a lake, with nobody within a quarter mile of you. This all makes sense. If you are an idiot.
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Not really. Each particular state has their own Constitution which grants the governor certain powers during emergencies.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
But if push came to shove, the US Constitution trumps (SWIDT) and the governor does not have the power or authority to suspend the US Constitution, specifically the First Amendment. It would be interesting to see whether local law enforcement agencies would follow a governor's mandate and make arrest. It is doubtful - Olympia's recent gun grab went over like a fart in a church with sheriff's in rural counties in E. Washington.
However, by the time the legal challenge worked its way through the system, the COVID will have killed us all. Every damned last one of us. Or so we're told.
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*EinstienDerekJohnson said:In a certain sense it's mass hypnosis.
"Nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced." - Albert Einstein*
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I dont know where that was in Cali but its probably just local cops being dicks. People keep their distance from each other in the bay, but the jogging and walking trails that cant be roped off are “full“ every day.
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It's a massive infringement on civil liberties. It's unfathomable to me that the public is letting our government get away with it. It's not like these were laws created by a legislative body either, these are the sole dictums of the governors of their respective States.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
Then there is the Edmonds Mayor who tried an emergency ban of firearms (since retracted). And did I mention the people weren't allowed to assemble at a city hall meeting to discuss?
https://www.edmondsbeacon.com/story/2020/03/26/news/edmonds-mayor-changes-mind-on-proposed-emergency-firearms-ban/22916.html
I honestly don't know which is more disconcerting. That our government officials brazenly violate our civil rights, or that the citizenry does not stand up and tell them to fuck off. -
Then the Babylon Bee started writing real news stories.
https://babylonbee.com/news/constitution-dies-of-coronavirus -
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(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
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HR, YK.
I just wish there was a better person to rally behind Ammon Bundy.
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They are actively cheering it on. Idiots like CD and claiming the superiority of California for closing everything down because possibly in the future Montana might have some cases. Or somethingpawz said:
It's a massive infringement on civil liberties. It's unfathomable to me that the public is letting our government get away with it. It's not like these were laws created by a legislative body either, these are the sole dictums of the governors of their respective States.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
Then there is the Edmonds Mayor who tried an emergency ban of firearms (since retracted). And did I mention the people weren't allowed to assemble at a city hall meeting to discuss?
https://www.edmondsbeacon.com/story/2020/03/26/news/edmonds-mayor-changes-mind-on-proposed-emergency-firearms-ban/22916.html
I honestly don't know which is more disconcerting. That our government officials brazenly violate our civil rights, or that the citizenry does not stand up and tell them to fuck off.
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I think that's coming. The Throbber is all about containment of disease but everybody has their fuck-off/this shit is stupid stale date.pawz said:
It's a massive infringement on civil liberties. It's unfathomable to me that the public is letting our government get away with it. It's not like these were laws created by a legislative body either, these are the sole dictums of the governors of their respective States.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
Then there is the Edmonds Mayor who tried an emergency ban of firearms (since retracted). And did I mention the people weren't allowed to assemble at a city hall meeting to discuss?
https://www.edmondsbeacon.com/story/2020/03/26/news/edmonds-mayor-changes-mind-on-proposed-emergency-firearms-ban/22916.html
I honestly don't know which is more disconcerting. That our government officials brazenly violate our civil rights, or that the citizenry does not stand up and tell them to fuck off.
Mine is May 4. I determined 4/6 was sort of my re-assess stats date but have been too busy making stupid money to free up time to do that analysis.
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Every state in the Union has a statute granting emergency powers to the Governor.
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Hear that? That sound was the point wizzing past your empty nugget.HHusky said:Every state in the Union has a statute granting emergency powers to the Governor.
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We had our weekly project status call with the customer.
April is out. May is a question. All depends on local leaders so we're fucked as far as getting back to work soon
Your typical functionary thinks the economy restarts like a lawn mower. Every day closed takes three days to recover from -
I'm pretty sure about 90 percent of the support is people not wanting to go to work lol
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I have found myself lightly jerking off (mostly just heavy petting) myself during remote meetings. WFH might be the best thing ever.Pitchfork51 said:I'm pretty sure about 90 percent of the support is people not wanting to go to work lol
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I'm on a conference call right now. 10% reduction in salary, reduction of work hours by 40% which is another reduction in salary. Shit just got real.RaceBannon said:We had our weekly project status call with the customer.
April is out. May is a question. All depends on local leaders so we're fucked as far as getting back to work soon
Your typical functionary thinks the economy restarts like a lawn mower. Every day closed takes three days to recover from -
And it will continue toSFGbob said:
I'm on a conference call right now. 10% reduction in salary, reduction of work hours by 40% which is another reduction in salary. Shit just got real.RaceBannon said:We had our weekly project status call with the customer.
April is out. May is a question. All depends on local leaders so we're fucked as far as getting back to work soon
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Sh*t would get real if Trump announced that 40% of the federal workforce was being laid off without pay for a month. Notice we could shut down the federal non-essential workforce with our pretend budget battles, but it was always just a paid vacation like our still getting paid teachers who aren't teaching. Then have Trump declare a national emergency and require each state's governor lay off without pay 40% of the state workers. Next counties and cities. Then we could have a national debate on shutting everything down.
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It’s actually directly responsive to the question: “Is it legal?”pawz said:
Hear that? That sound was the point wizzing past your empty nugget.HHusky said:Every state in the Union has a statute granting emergency powers to the Governor.
The answer is yes. The legislatures of the 50 states have said so.
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(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
Good luck to you bootlickers when the shit hits the fan -
So the Deep State has legal limits on its power.RaceBannon said:(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
Good luck to you bootlickers when the shit hits the fan
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Yeah, I just had to send in my property taxes. No 40% reduction in that and the fucking schools aren't even open. Anyone think the government employees are going to take a 40% salary haircut?WestlinnDuck said:Sh*t would get real if Trump announced that 40% of the federal workforce was being laid off without pay for a month. Notice we could shut down the federal non-essential workforce with our pretend budget battles, but it was always just a paid vacation like our still getting paid teachers who aren't teaching. Then have Trump declare a national emergency and require each state's governor lay off without pay 40% of the state workers. Next counties and cities. Then we could have a national debate on shutting everything down.
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Keep licking those boots!HHusky said:
So the Deep State has legal limits on its power.RaceBannon said:(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
Good luck to you bootlickers when the shit hits the fan
Don’t lose hope, Race. The black helicopters may still be coming. -
RaceBannon said:
Keep licking those jackboots!HHusky said:
So the Deep State has legal limits on its power.RaceBannon said:(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
Good luck to you bootlickers when the shit hits the fan
Don’t lose hope, Race. The black helicopters may still be coming. -
Too bad there's no one here from the Greatest Generation to hear your violin.RaceBannon said:
Keep licking those boots!HHusky said:
So the Deep State has legal limits on its power.RaceBannon said:(4) No order or orders concerning waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations under subsection (2) of this section may continue for longer than thirty days unless extended by the legislature through concurrent resolution. If the legislature is not in session, the waiver or suspension of statutory obligations or limitations may be extended in writing by the leadership of the senate and the house of representatives until the legislature can extend the waiver or suspension by concurrent resolution. For purposes of this section, "leadership of the senate and the house of representatives" means the majority and minority leaders of the senate and the speaker and the minority leader of the house of representatives.
Good luck to you bootlickers when the shit hits the fan
Don’t lose hope, Race. The black helicopters may still be coming. -
We now understand better how dictators come to power. Make people afraid and desperate. Convince them that the new rules are for the good of the country, the greater good. If people aren’t complying, turn them in because “they could kill someone” and “we’re all in the together”. Put out confusing information and propaganda. But don’t do it all at once. Go incrementally. First ban gatherings over 250 people, after the initial shock wears off, make it 10, after shock wears off, make it all gatherings. Close school for 3 weeks, then 6, then the entire year. Don’t boil the frog suddenly.pawz said:
It's a massive infringement on civil liberties. It's unfathomable to me that the public is letting our government get away with it. It's not like these were laws created by a legislative body either, these are the sole dictums of the governors of their respective States.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
Then there is the Edmonds Mayor who tried an emergency ban of firearms (since retracted). And did I mention the people weren't allowed to assemble at a city hall meeting to discuss?
https://www.edmondsbeacon.com/story/2020/03/26/news/edmonds-mayor-changes-mind-on-proposed-emergency-firearms-ban/22916.html
I honestly don't know which is more disconcerting. That our government officials brazenly violate our civil rights, or that the citizenry does not stand up and tell them to fuck off.
There is no exit strategy. As long as the standard is zero tolerance for any illness of death caused by this, then there is no time in the future that makes anymore sense to gather than it does now.
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Lies libertarians tell.MikeDamone said:
As long as the standard is zero tolerance for any illness of death caused by this,pawz said:
It's a massive infringement on civil liberties. It's unfathomable to me that the public is letting our government get away with it. It's not like these were laws created by a legislative body either, these are the sole dictums of the governors of their respective States.Swaye said:Is it even legal for a Governor to force you to stay at home? I mean, without martial law declared, what powers does the government have to tell you that you cannot leave home? And there appears to be limited enforcement of this. Some dude in CA was wakeboarding alone on a a beach and they hauled him off in handcuffs. Cited some Mom and Dad who were at a baseball field with their daughter, alone, playing t-ball. I am sure there are lots of other examples. What gives some Governor the ability to tell me to lock myself in my house, and to arrest or ticket me if I do not comply?
This is a serious question. How can you "close" rivers and streams and tell people they can't fish in the middle of nowhere? Do the fish transmit COVID? I am really struggling to understand the validity of some low rent asshole like Governor Blackface telling me I can't go out.
Then there is the Edmonds Mayor who tried an emergency ban of firearms (since retracted). And did I mention the people weren't allowed to assemble at a city hall meeting to discuss?
https://www.edmondsbeacon.com/story/2020/03/26/news/edmonds-mayor-changes-mind-on-proposed-emergency-firearms-ban/22916.html
I honestly don't know which is more disconcerting. That our government officials brazenly violate our civil rights, or that the citizenry does not stand up and tell them to fuck off. -
WASHINGTON – The contrast could hardly be more stark. Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York has said that if all of his sweeping, expensive measures to stem the coronavirus saved one life, it would be worth it. President Donald Trump has another view: The costs of shutting down the economy outweigh the benefits, frequently telling Americans that 35,000 people a year die from the common flu.
The question is now an urgent one given that Trump in recent days has latched on to the notion that the cure for the pandemic should not be worse than the disease and argued that “more people are going to die if we allow this to continue” if the economy remains closed. He has targeted a return to a semblance of normalcy for the economy by Easter Sunday, April 12.
Critics say he’s presenting the nation with a false choice at a moment when deaths and infections from the virus are surging.
“We’re not going to accept a premise that human life is disposable,” said Cuomo, whose state has seen far more infections and deaths from COVID-19 than any other state. “And we’re not going to put a dollar figure on human life.”
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