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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    dnc said:

    You know how hard it is to get the average Millenial to take something to the damn mailbox?

    I'm all for mail in ballots but I don't think they would be the boon for turnout that many think they would.

    I do think it would be easy to cheat
    Maybe. So far the facts haven't shown that.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    Other than the time my mom's ballot was forwarded to me from Washington.....
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Voting by mail is fine. HOWEVER. It takes time to get all of the right systems in place to ensure legitimacy. The first is making sure voters that are being registered are legitimate and aren't receiving multiple ballots at multiple addresses. That is why voter ID is a must, especially when you are mailing it in. You also have to have a database of signatures set up to match when the ballots come in. You have to have the machines and staffing set up to count the ballots accurately. This doesn't happen in a month. It takes almost all year to set up effectively.

    See the Iowa caucus if you have any questions.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,047 Founders Club

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    The other thing about mail-in voting, NEVER has there been cases of finding undelivered mail. The mail is always delivered on time - damn the weather.



  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    The difference is there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from the right. Zero evidence of actual cheating from the left.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    How many of them voted?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    All I know is that the Rats here in California fight like bastards to not look into the issue of illegals voting and have created a voter registration system that does nothing to discourage illegals from registering and voting.

    That tells me everything I need to know about illegals voting.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    Harvard actually did a study on this recently. The conclusion is that voter fraud is a statistically insignificant occurence. I have yet to see anything that says otherwise, so I'm on team Harvard for now.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/morse/files/1p1v.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiVpK7Vw9noAhUmhOAKHXO2CAwQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3aRME4Wv3bT7sbybVXEgcA
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    They only check on non-citizens registering to vote here in California is all based upon the honor system.

    The person who fills out their voter registration card must sign the card attesting that they are a US citizen. That's it, the state then does no further back ground check to confirm if the person who registers really is a US Citizen.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    SFGbob said:

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    They only check on non-citizens registering to vote here in California is all based upon the honor system.

    The person who fills out their voter registration card must sign the card attesting that they are a US citizen. That's it, the state then does no further back ground check to confirm if the person who registers really is a US Citizen.
    Even assuming you are a reliable source of information on this registration issue--generous--there is always a record of who voted.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    HHusky said:

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    How many of them voted?
    All of them
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    HHusky said:

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    How many of them voted?
    All of them
    The intellectual wing of the TugCon movement weighs in.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    The difference is there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from the right. Zero evidence of actual cheating from the left.
    No there isn't and yes there is

    You jumped right in and proved my point didn't you
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    A Harvard study pales in comparison to a state by state look at who is registered, are they a citizen, and are they still breathing. A public record. Maybe a tattoo next to the covid one

    To claim no fraud is to be massively ignorant of American history
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    They only check on non-citizens registering to vote here in California is all based upon the honor system.

    The person who fills out their voter registration card must sign the card attesting that they are a US citizen. That's it, the state then does no further back ground check to confirm if the person who registers really is a US Citizen.
    Even assuming you are a reliable source of information on this registration issue--generous--there is always a record of who voted.
    Of course there is, now tell me how that stops a non-citizen from voting when the state never checks their voter registration rolls for citizenship.

    And the mother fucker you still continues to push the hands up don't shoot lies has no fucking business questioning anyone else's reliability.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    The dems let illegals register to vote while getting their driver's license. That isn't a bug but a feature for a leftard.

    They only check on non-citizens registering to vote here in California is all based upon the honor system.

    The person who fills out their voter registration card must sign the card attesting that they are a US citizen. That's it, the state then does no further back ground check to confirm if the person who registers really is a US Citizen.
    Even assuming you are a reliable source of information on this registration issue--generous--there is always a record of who voted.
    Of course there is, now tell me how that stops a non-citizen from voting when the state never checks their voter registration rolls for citizenship.

    And the mother fucker you still continues to push the hands up don't shoot lies has no fucking business questioning anyone else's reliability.
    Dumb beyond measure.

    The State can audit elections long after the fact . . . and does. So could anyone, especially with an obvious motivation to discredit or change an election. You girls would KILL for evidence that massive numbers of non-citizens are voting. But actually looking into it has never favored your narrative, so you spend your time bitching about hypothetical felonies.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    As has been posted here repeatedly not that liars like H care, the one state that did a study found large amounts of illegals registered to vote on the honor system in Virginia

    Fuck off
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,429 Founders Club

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    The difference is there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from the right. Zero evidence of actual cheating from the left.
    "Vote early and vote often."

    I wonder where that saying came from?

    Also the same party that does NOT want voters to show ID.


    You must be channeling your inner-HondoFS today. Bravo.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    The difference is there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from the right. Zero evidence of actual cheating from the left.
    No there isn't and yes there is

    You jumped right in and proved my point didn't you
    JFC. The entire GOP election strategy is focused around voter suppression and limiting voter turnout. Is this board your only source of information? That would actually explain a lot.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    A Harvard study pales in comparison to a state by state look at who is registered, are they a citizen, and are they still breathing. A public record. Maybe a tattoo next to the covid one

    To claim no fraud is to be massively ignorant of American history

    Agreed, I would welcome such a thorough analysis. And of course there's fraud. The question is whether or not it's significant and pervasive enough to dictate public policy.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I voted by mail because Cali lets me. Didn't want to but felt I owed it to them

    That's fine, it's near impossible for you to cast a double vote since you're the only registered voter who predates the electoral college. Allegedly.
    It's also real easy to go into neighborhoods and "help people vote" as well. Axe me how I know about ballot harvesting.
    Go ahead and quantify the election fraud that took place. I've scoured, and I can't find any halfway credible source that's even able to estimate how many fraudulent votes ballot harvesting led to, if any.
    Another issue that it would be nice to get real answers on.

    The left says the racist GOP wants to stop voters. The right says the democrats cheat like a DOG

    Does anyone even research it. I've tried to look at illegals voting and most states, 81%, don't even look
    The difference is there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from the right. Zero evidence of actual cheating from the left.
    No there isn't and yes there is

    You jumped right in and proved my point didn't you
    JFC. The entire GOP election strategy is focused around voter suppression and limiting voter turnout. Is this board your only source of information? That would actually explain a lot.
    Let's assume that's true. How would Democrats respond to that, operationally?