What UW model?
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50k worldwide up from 37k over the week. Can someone please explain to me how an exponential equation works?
Still waiting on this mountain of bodies that somehow justifies the over 6 million unemployed Americans. -
Shocking - a state institution under the guidance of Jay "Benito" Inslee coming out with stats to support the end of the world narrative.
Like we say, fuck off.
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Are they flattening the curve yet?
Can a homely nurse tell us to stay at home again? -
How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
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All of them.Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
(per statists)
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If it saves just one life it was all worth it!
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Unless it's illegals they can kill, rape and pillage all the citizens they want.UW_Doog_Bot said:If it saves just one life it was all worth it!
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Dude61 said:
How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
This is the problem in a nutshell if we don't have someway to do a rational review of this. What do you think politicians will do the next time a virus shows up if this becomes the new normal? The same thing. Whether we need it or needed it or not.
Clearly densely populated areas should actually really for once in your fucking lives prepare for a surge of hospital use. Maybe buy those ventilators that the brilliant democrat governor neglected to do rather than forming yet another commission to start a death panel like that brilliant democrat governor did.
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Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
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Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
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Mortality data out of Spain and Italy shows their official statistics a yuge undercount. And still only 3k in China? lol...haie said:50k worldwide up from 37k over the week. Can someone please explain to me how an exponential equation works?
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Like usual. Race is right.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
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Every model I've seen says millions of deaths if we do nothing. I know you guys hate expertise.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
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Awesome thanks for the updateHHusky said:
Every model I've seen says millions of deaths if we do nothing. I know you guys hate expertise.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
You want to shut it down again you need to prove it. Not theorize about it
So we shut down every winter because models.
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Epidemiological expertise.RaceBannon said:
Awesome thanks for the updateHHusky said:
Every model I've seen says millions of deaths if we do nothing. I know you guys hate expertise.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
You want to shut it down again you need to prove it. Not theorize about it
So we shut down every winter because models.
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This is what I think the plan is.
1. Shut down for another month or two, basically until the hospitals have enough equipment and people are used to washing hands and not breathing down each other's necks.
2. Start opening most services again with the caveat that old people like Race need to know they will have a high chance of getting fucked up if they catch it
3. Slowly build up herd immunity through the people that aren't old and frail until a vaccine is ready
The world won't be able to afford to stay shut down through even the summer. No way we make it until a vaccine is available. These next couple months are here to ensure we have as many ICU beds and ventilators in place as possible.
We basically try to limit exposure as much as you can while trying to act normal until either 70% of the population has caught it or there is a vaccine. -
Milestone?RaceBannon said:Grim
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Alwa
Always about the brothers with you...RaceBannon said:Grim
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Champagne corks popping in the HHusky basement! Great news!
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What are your thoughts on NCAA football playoff? How would you do it?UWhuskytskeet said:This is what I think the plan is.
1. Shut down for another month or two, basically until the hospitals have enough equipment and people are used to washing hands and not breathing down each other's necks.
2. Start opening most services again with the caveat that old people like Race need to know they will have a high chance of getting fucked up if they catch it
3. Slowly build up herd immunity through the people that aren't old and frail until a vaccine is ready
The world won't be able to afford to stay shut down through even the summer. No way we make it until a vaccine is available. These next couple months are here to ensure we have as many ICU beds and ventilators in place as possible.
We basically try to limit exposure as much as you can while trying to act normal until either 70% of the population has caught it or there is a vaccine. -
Thanks for readingMikeDamone said:
What are your thoughts on NCAA football playoff? How would you do it?UWhuskytskeet said:This is what I think the plan is.
1. Shut down for another month or two, basically until the hospitals have enough equipment and people are used to washing hands and not breathing down each other's necks.
2. Start opening most services again with the caveat that old people like Race need to know they will have a high chance of getting fucked up if they catch it
3. Slowly build up herd immunity through the people that aren't old and frail until a vaccine is ready
The world won't be able to afford to stay shut down through even the summer. No way we make it until a vaccine is available. These next couple months are here to ensure we have as many ICU beds and ventilators in place as possible.
We basically try to limit exposure as much as you can while trying to act normal until either 70% of the population has caught it or there is a vaccine.
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UWhuskytskeet said:
This is what I think the plan is.
1. Shut down for another month or two, basically until the hospitals have enough equipment and people are used to washing hands and not breathing down each other's necks.
2. Start opening most services again with the caveat that old people like Race need to know they will have a high chance of getting fucked up if they catch it
3. Slowly build up herd immunity through the people that aren't old and frail until a vaccine is ready
The world won't be able to afford to stay shut down through even the summer. No way we make it until a vaccine is available. These next couple months are here to ensurewe have as many ICU beds and ventilators in place as possible.the government has permanently altered our society and finished the job the patriot act couldn’t accomplish.
We basically try to limit exposure as much as you can while trying to act normal until either 70% of the population has caught it or there is a vaccine. -
The only model developed by "experts" I have seen that is currently being used to drive policy has been wildly off the mark in terms of death rates and hospitalizations.HHusky said:
Every model I've seen says millions of deaths if we do nothing. I know you guys hate expertise.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
You want to shut it down again you need to prove it. Not theorize about it
I have seen plenty of models that predict increases in death rates as a result of unemployment. -
Let's see them.Dude61 said:
The only model developed by "experts" I have seen that is currently being used to drive policy has been wildly off the mark in terms of death rates and hospitalizations.HHusky said:
Every model I've seen says millions of deaths if we do nothing. I know you guys hate expertise.RaceBannon said:
Where do you get the idea that they won't?HHusky said:
Where do you get the idea that "only" an extra 100,000 people will die if we just operate normally?Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
You want to shut it down again you need to prove it. Not theorize about it
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How much will the economic-induced death toll be for the sustained lockdown suicide pact into which we've been involuntarily entered?
Scaled for today's population, each 1% increase in unemployment would cost us ~60,000 extra lives: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1177/003232927600600408
Being unemployed contributes to a 63% increase in the chance of dying: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.socscimed.2011.01.005
Economists are predicting a roughly 10-fold increase in unemployment due to our lockdown measures, to around 32%. That's higher than in the Great Depression.
Coronavirus job losses could total 47 million, unemployment rate may hit 32%, Fed estimates
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html
If that type of unemployment level is sustained, we could be looking at deaths in the 1.8 million range for Americans as a result of the economic consequences of the lockdown decisions being made for us, without our consultation.
At a "mere" 5% increase in unemployment, we'd been looking at ~294,000 extra deaths as a result of lockdown. That's a low figure at this point.
MARCH 23, 2020
Will “Deaths of Despair” Outpace Deaths From Coronavirus?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/will-deaths-of-despair-outpace-deaths-from-coronavirus/
A middle-ground increase of 16% to 17% (for a total of about 20%), would be around ~970,000 extra deaths as a result of lockdown.
Those who would be most at-risk from economic-induced deaths would be people age 18 to 34, and of those, particularly men. Also, people who are early or in the middle of their careers would be most affected. The elderly population, not as much.
In addition to the other lasting knock-on effects of a possible (probable) Second Great Depression, the deaths and demographic crunch will vastly change the American landscape, particularly in terms of overall life expectancy.
I think there has to be a middle ground between ~294,000 and 1.8 million economic-induced deaths and a severe setback in national life expectancy, versus the coronavirus projections (not well understood at this point, and which would impact life expectancy very little).
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Dept Of Pandemia: 15 Days To Stop The Spread
"Okay it's been 15 days. Now what?"
Pandemia Dept: The model says 30 More Days To Stop The Spread
"The model has never matched the data. Maybe we need a new model?"
Pandemia Dept: Update in 2 weeks. Stop The Spread. Obey The Model. -
Biden says not one life if worth losing to help the economy. Zero is the bar.Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
“Let me be very clear: No one is expendable. No matter your age, race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or disability. No life is worth losing to add one more point to the Dow.” -
Quite the joke, ain't it Damone?MikeDamone said:Champagne corks popping in the HHusky basement! Great news!
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We've got one of my bosses regular bartenders putting in orders for our mask companyMikeDamone said:
Biden says not one life if worth losing to help the economy. Zero is the bar.Dude61 said:How many millions of job losses are acceptable to save 100,000 lives?
“Let me be very clear: No one is expendable. No matter your age, race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or disability. No life is worth losing to add one more point to the Dow.”
Are you my boss lol
