When does the public get sick of the quarantines?
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Been on the two week bandwagon.
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When did Betty get replaced by Karen? Nancy seems like a good one too.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I'm saying sometime between April 5th and 10th, they say fuck it. A lot of people are losing a ton of money. They're sick of fighting with white trash and ghetto hoarders for toilet paper, paper towels, or steaks (I know I am) or seeing Karens tell them how bad it is on social media.
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Nancy's tits sagged. She's out.DuckHHunterisafag said:
When did Betty get replaced by Karen? Nancy seems like a good one too.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I'm saying sometime between April 5th and 10th, they say fuck it. A lot of people are losing a ton of money. They're sick of fighting with white trash and ghetto hoarders for toilet paper, paper towels, or steaks (I know I am) or seeing Karens tell them how bad it is on social media.
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I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
Well saidwhlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
Its the lack of discussion or public input and the speed of the destruction of the economy that concerns me most
They did it this time they will do it again.
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The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
Part of that is our alleged free society. Leaders knew Hitler was going to be trouble when he got his reads down but most Americans didn't care until the Germans bombed Pearl HarborYellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
The angry Jihadi was a Hollywood staple since the 70's until they actually hit a big shot then we couldn't call them terrorists anymore. We knew after Trade Tower 1 they were serious but we weren't.
The other part is crisis fatigue. Everything is the end. So nothing is -
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
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The Snow Day novelty wears off this weekend
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It wore off a week ago.MikeDamone said:The Snow Day novelty wears off this weekend
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Working at home was fun when not everyone was doing it. Also no road trips to jobsites to break it up.
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So much this. CDC worrying about political agenda shit and didn't do their primary job. Same as it ever was with government bureaucracy. No amount of additional funding will cure that.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
Because command economies are worse at a crisis that stumbling free economies. At least we have the capability to turn on a dime and do what needs to be doneYellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
When this is all said and done it will turn out that we aren't China, Iran, or Italy and that we did the best with a bad situation that was exacerbated by the Chi Com pieces of shit that started it -
We'll obviously still be unprepared since they want trannies, abortions and elecctric airplanes all funded.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
Dude is definitely a wordsmith.YellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
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OOYBEsalemcoog said:
Dude is definitely a wordsmith.YellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity. -
Agree. We have the worst system, except for all the others.RaceBannon said:
Because command economies are worse at a crisis that stumbling free economies. At least we have the capability to turn on a dime and do what needs to be doneYellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
When this is all said and done it will turn out that we aren't China, Iran, or Italy and that we did the best with a bad situation that was exacerbated by the Chi Com pieces of shit that started it -
damn - when I quit work because they wouldn't let me work from home I felt like I was unique. Now everyone is sitting at home doing home owner/lazy day/Mr. Mom stuff.
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I’ll agree to the extent they will do it again. Whether it’s another pandemic or some other threat, I do think this current situation will be analyzed and enhanced for the next time.RaceBannon said:
Well saidwhlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
Its the lack of discussion or public input and the speed of the destruction of the economy that concerns me most
They did it this time they will do it again.
However, if this thing turns out to be a bad cold, the next time the public won’t be so compliant. It’s the boy who cried wolf syndrome - which is why, if “they” have one lick of sense will end this thing as quickly as possible.
I already have pointed out the CDC failing to update the number of actual cases (now in the tens of thousands) as doing so accurately will distort the mortality rate to such a low number, people won’t tolerate this foolishness at the risk of a total meltdown of their economic well-being and ability to provide for their families.
Yesterday’s bullshit in the Senate, Nancy Pelosi’s blatant earmarking to advance her political agenda and the members of Congress who made a mint off insider information must never be forgotten nor left unpunished.
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That's the difference between a couple of old radicals like me and BernieYellowSnow said:
Agree. We have the worst system, except for all the others.RaceBannon said:
Because command economies are worse at a crisis that stumbling free economies. At least we have the capability to turn on a dime and do what needs to be doneYellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
When this is all said and done it will turn out that we aren't China, Iran, or Italy and that we did the best with a bad situation that was exacerbated by the Chi Com pieces of shit that started it
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People forget that George McGovern bombed the bad guy's women and children.RaceBannon said:
That's the difference between a couple of old radicals like me and BernieYellowSnow said:
Agree. We have the worst system, except for all the others.RaceBannon said:
Because command economies are worse at a crisis that stumbling free economies. At least we have the capability to turn on a dime and do what needs to be doneYellowSnow said:
As Bismark allegedly once said, "God has a speshial providence for fools, drunkards and the United States of America". Name me a period on our nation's history where the Federal Government hasn't been incompetent on a variety of challenges. We suck and yet somehow remain "exceptional" in spite of it.SFGbob said:
What makes me angry is that we toss billions and billions of dollars at government agencies every year who's job is to plan and prepare for just this kind of event and they fuck it up. This is why you constitute a Federal Government.YellowSnow said:
The big takeaway from all this is how utterly unprepared we are as a country to effectively deal with pandemic scares. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, 9/11, or COVID-19 we? always seem to get caught with our pants down. Hopefully, our bonehead pols learn the necessary lessons. I won't hold my breath.whlinder said:I went to Seattle two weeks ago Sunday through Wednesday. My VA county closed schools the next day (Thursday). Yesterday school was cancelled for the year across VA and they shut non-essential businesses for 30 days.
With what we know now about the local caseload here and the caseload in Seattle I would not have an issue flying there and having the same meetings this week. Nothing is orders of magnitude riskier than it was 2 weeks ago.
At first I thought the county closing schools was an overreaction, but it appears to have been the right decision to close that early on. I don't agree with killing the entire year, especially when school goes until early June.
I'm happy to socially distance for a month to keep people from dying, but once you get past that I think you start to wonder what the point is. Especially if it makes you broke. It turns into a "what's the meaning of life" analysis pretty quick, and those at risk of dying got to enjoy their best years pandemic and economic depression free, which those of us in our best years lose those to a quarantine and subsequent depression which allows those at risk of dying to not die for a couple more years.
There is an inherent risk of bad stuff happening every single day. Cowering in a cave for a year doesn't remove all risk anyway.
Sure would be nice if we had sufficient testing, cleaning supplies and a system to quarantine and track those who are infected. Plus more medical capacity.
When this is all said and done it will turn out that we aren't China, Iran, or Italy and that we did the best with a bad situation that was exacerbated by the Chi Com pieces of shit that started it
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Yeah, I definitely think we’re at the point where the cure is getting to be worse than the illness. I personally can handle another two weeks, but that’s it.
Problem is, if there’s a quick resolution to this you have all the economic damage without any lessons being learned or meaningful changes being made. I’m experiencing a lot of fucking deja vu with how governments have been reacting to this, same shit as 9/11 and 2008.
Businesses and governments want to go back to the status quo as soon as possible. -
Even with the current low mortality rate this thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Cases and infected are skyrocketing as there's about a 2 week lag at least for any of the quarantine "stay at home" shit and that's if people actually were following it, which many aren't. This shit is probably going to overwhelm our hospitals and first responders within the next week or so while the public is going to demand an end to all the measures that "aren't doing anything anyway" bc people can't think through a 2 week lag of cause and effect. Six weeks is more or less what it takes for lockdown to work and I don't see a lot of people having the stomach for that. I'm definitely taking the over 12,000 dead at this point.
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WAY overUW_Doog_Bot said:Even with the current low mortality rate this thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Cases and infected are skyrocketing as there's about a 2 week lag at least for any of the quarantine "stay at home" shit and that's if people actually were following it, which many aren't. This shit is probably going to overwhelm our hospitals and first responders within the next week or so while the public is going to demand an end to all the measures that "aren't doing anything anyway" bc people can't think through a 2 week lag of cause and effect. Six weeks is more or less what it takes for lockdown to work and I don't see a lot of people having the stomach for that. I'm definitely taking the over 12,000 dead at this point.
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Time for a dead pool? Cash grab opportunity for Stalin? I think @PurpleThrobber has called it at under 5K.UW_Doog_Bot said:Even with the current low mortality rate this thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Cases and infected are skyrocketing as there's about a 2 week lag at least for any of the quarantine "stay at home" shit and that's if people actually were following it, which many aren't. This shit is probably going to overwhelm our hospitals and first responders within the next week or so while the public is going to demand an end to all the measures that "aren't doing anything anyway" bc people can't think through a 2 week lag of cause and effect. Six weeks is more or less what it takes for lockdown to work and I don't see a lot of people having the stomach for that. I'm definitely taking the over 12,000 dead at this point.
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House money
Under 12,000 and we? saved you by shutting it down. Over and we? stopped it from being worse
One positive is people are finding out how many of us? die every year from stuff. You kind of have to put it in perspective don't you? If we drop 80K from the flu and nobody panicked then let's keep doing that -
I'll take 81,000YellowSnow said:
Time for a dead pool? Cash grab opportunity for Stalin? I think @PurpleThrobber has called it at under 5K.UW_Doog_Bot said:Even with the current low mortality rate this thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Cases and infected are skyrocketing as there's about a 2 week lag at least for any of the quarantine "stay at home" shit and that's if people actually were following it, which many aren't. This shit is probably going to overwhelm our hospitals and first responders within the next week or so while the public is going to demand an end to all the measures that "aren't doing anything anyway" bc people can't think through a 2 week lag of cause and effect. Six weeks is more or less what it takes for lockdown to work and I don't see a lot of people having the stomach for that. I'm definitely taking the over 12,000 dead at this point.
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Can you tell Mrs. Throbber v2.0 to pick up some TP on the way home? Assuming she comes home in the next 2 weeks....Doog_de_Jour said:Yeah, I definitely think we’re at the point where the cure is getting to be worse than the illness. I personally can handle another two weeks, but that’s it.
Problem is, if there’s a quick resolution to this you have all the economic damage without any lessons being learned or meaningful changes being made. I’m experiencing a lot of fucking deja vu with how governments have been reacting to this, same shit as 9/11 and 2008.
Businesses and governments want to go back to the status quo as soon as possible.
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The lesson that government will learn is not to treat new viral epidemics like we do the flu but to start treating the flu like they did the new kid on the block.
we fucked no matter what.
