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MikeDamone
MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
Banning gatherings of 250 or larger is a violation of the first amendment right to peacefully assemble. Jay "The Snake" Inslee can advise us, but we are not his subjects to command.

Nearly everybody will heed the advice because good ideas don't require force.

Note that to violently enforce these bans he requires exposing even more people to the large group. It can't be enforced without being self-defeating of the quarantine itself.

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  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,044 Standard Supporter

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    But rats were OK with that. BO was in charge. HH had zero problem
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    I have to think all the precautions currently happening is to keep this virus from even approaching the H1N1 numbers. Could be wrong.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    edited March 2020

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    But rats were OK with that. BO was in charge. HH had zero problem
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    HHusky said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    But rats were OK with that. BO was in charge. HH had zero problem
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.
    I predict no one on hh will die due to corona.

    Due to race being immortal.

    Head explosion due to TDS I can't be so sure of
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
    HHusky said:



    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pan
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.

    You are such a manipulative little shit. Mental gymnastics for all.

    He declared it a public health emergency 1st..... Meh.... Then drug ass and called it a national emergency after 1k had died.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Postal91 said:

    HHusky said:



    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pan
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.

    You are such a manipulative little shit. Mental gymnastics for all.

    He declared it a public health emergency 1st..... Meh.... Then drug ass and called it a national emergency after 1k had died.

    Manipulative implies he's convinced someone of something
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    Postal91 said:

    HHusky said:



    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pan
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.

    You are such a manipulative little shit. Mental gymnastics for all.

    He declared it a public health emergency 1st..... Meh.... Then drug ass and called it a national emergency after 1k had died.

    Slow down! Leave some beer for the rest of us.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
    That is many orders of magnitude larger than any guesstimations I've run across.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    edited March 2020

    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die

    “Just stay calm. It will go away.” - Daddy, March 10, 2020.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die

    “Just stay calm. It will go away.” - Daddy, March 10, 2020.
    Did daddy wipe your ass for you today?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die

    “Just stay calm. It will go away.” - Daddy, March 10, 2020.
    Did daddy wipe your ass for you today?
    You probably should have gone with your second choice.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die

    “Just stay calm. It will go away.” - Daddy, March 10, 2020.
    Did daddy wipe your ass for you today?
    You probably should have gone with your second choice.
    Race hasn't worn depends since the Spanish Inquisition
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    They ain't no time to wonder why

    Yippee we're all going to die

    “Just stay calm. It will go away.” - Daddy, March 10, 2020.
    Did daddy wipe your ass for you today?
    You probably should have gone with your second choice.
    Did you suck daddy's cock today?
    Well, this just goes to show you that even I can be wrong.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
    You're rooting for it. That much is clear
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    But rats were OK with that. BO was in charge. HH had zero problem
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.
    You mean like when he restricted China travel in the first days of February and crying chuck said he was just implementing racist immigration policies. Like that?
  • SECDAWG
    SECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004

    HHusky said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    But rats were OK with that. BO was in charge. HH had zero problem
    Obama declared it an emergency as soon as H1N1 emerged and before we even had 50 US cases. No one’s blaming Daddy for the existence of the Corona virus. His response is another matter.
    I predict no one on hh will die due to corona.

    Due to race being immortal.

    Head explosion due to TDS I can't be so sure of

    Actually as old as @RaceBannon is, he’s the most vulnerable far as the history of this virus...


  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965

    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
    You're rooting for it. That much is clear
    Relax Mike. It’s all just a big joke. Remember?
  • SECDAWG
    SECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004
    It’s a fukn nothing burger.

    If a person is old as dirt with an immune system equivalent to fighting PREDATOR with a 22 cal, or very immune comprised like leukemia or taking meds like
    Enbrel or the like, don’t fukn venture out...
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    The question is....what cost is too high? I know that sounds cold but there are true business implications and you're going to harm a lot of people...

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    I have to think all the precautions currently happening is to keep this virus from even approaching the H1N1 numbers. Could be wrong.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    Careful with the word "exponentially" in this case. I got a 4.0 in number theory at UW so you can trust me on that.
    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
    You're rooting for it. That much is clear
    Relax Mike. It’s all just a big joke. Remember?
    No one said that liar. Now answer the question about crying chuck.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Facebook and twitter weren't that big of a thing in 2010. Way easier to fan hysteria these days.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,965
    SECDAWG said:

    It’s a fukn nothing burger.

    If a person is old as dirt with an immune system equivalent to fighting PREDATOR with a 22 cal, or very immune comprised like leukemia or taking meds like
    Enbrel or the like, don’t fukn venture out...

    I like heroes without underlying health issues.

    And for Gawd’s sake, haven’t the 60+ crowd lived long enough?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    GDS said:

    True NannyState stuff. Government knows better than us. F the economy. F small business. This wouldn't happen 10 years ago. FYFMFE. This is such fucking bullshit.

    Anyone remember H1N1 ( Swine Flu )

    "As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died."

    Staggering numbers comparatively. We aren't even anywhere in this ballpark and signs don't point to us getting there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Some signs actually do point to us getting there:

    The attending physician of the U.S. Congress & Supreme Court, Dr. Brian Monahan, briefed Senate Staff yesterday in a closed-door meeting that he expects anywhere from 70 up to 150 million people in the U.S. to contract coronavirus

    This virus has a case mortality rate significantly higher than the swine flu did so if it did reach those sort of numbers the fatalities would be exponentially higher than we saw from H1N1.

    Is the rash of closures around the world and here an appropriate response? Medical professionals seem to believe so...
    That is many orders of magnitude larger than any guesstimations I've run across.
    Dr. Brian Monahan, pretty dialed in as it turns out.