Washington vs Oregon recruiting dick measuring contest

StrongArmCobra said:

insinceredawg said:

greenblood said:

The thread quality with Ballz and without is vastly different.

I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't posted in this thread yet. @StrongArmCobra you ok bro?

UW's class is head and shoulders above anybody else's in the Pac-12. I'm so satisfied right now. I can't wait to look back at this class in a few years with amazement and go down the list of great players UW got in this class. I also can't wait to look back at Oregon's class and laugh at all the busts, medical retirements, and transfers. Their hit rate is going to be so low. They will be the forever young team due to massive amounts of attrition and recruiting mistakes. On top of that UW, Stanford, WSU, and Cal all have better coaching staffs than them. They're fucked and they don't even know it yet.

insinceredawg said:

I know Doogs and Quooks will say they prefer their team's class over the other but even if I were to try to be objective, it's hard to say Oregon's class is better than ours. Their higher rating is driven primarily by larger numbers (26 vs 22 signees) and Thibs but when you look at position by position, the only areas the Ducks beat us straight up were at WR, TE, and on the edge. Our class is stronger in the trenches on both sides and in the secondary.

QB
UW: Dylan Morris (4*)
UO: Cale Millen (3*)
Edge: UW
UW had their pick between the two

RB
UW: Cam Davis (4*)
UO: Sean Dollars (4*), Jayvaun Wilson (3*)
Edge: Even
UW preferred Davis over Dollars but Ducks got their “big back” while we struck out on Charbonnet

WR
UW: Taj Davis (3*)
UO: Mycah Pittman (4*), Josh Delgado (4*), Lance Wilhoite (4*), JR Waters (3*)
Edge: UO

TE
UW: None
UO: Patrick Herbert (4*)
Edge: UO

OL
UW: Julius Buelow (4*), Nathan Kalepo (4*), Troy Fautanu (4*), Corey Luciano (3*)
UO: Malaesala Aumvavae-Laulu (4*), Jonah Tauanu’u (4*), Logan Sagapolu (3*)
Edge: UW

DL
UW: Faatui Tuitele (4*), Jacob Bandes (4*), Sama Paama (4*), Noa Ngalu (3*)
UO: Keyon Ware-Hudson (4*), Kristian Williams (3*), Suaava Poti (3*)
Edge: UW

OLB/BUCK
UW: Laiatu Latu (4*), Bralen Trice (3*)
UO: Kayvon Thibodeaux (5*), Isaac Townsend (3*), Brandon Dorlus (3*), Treven Ma’ae (3*)
Edge: UO

ILB
UW: Josh Calvert (4*), Daniel Heimuli (4*), Miki Ah You (3*), Alphonzo Tuputala (3*)
UO: Mase Funa (4*), Ge’mon Eaford (4*), Dru Mathis (3*)
Edge: UW

DB
UW: Trent McDuffie (4*), Asa Turner (4*), Kamren Fabiculanan (4*), Cam Williams (3*)
UO: Mykael Wright (4*), Trikweze Bridges (3*), Jamal Hill (3*), DJ James (3*)
Edge: UW

K
UW: Tim Horn (3*)
UO: Camden Lewis (3*)
Edge: UW
Oregon offered Horn before Lewis

dooginthehall said:

Ballz said:

insinceredawg said:

greenblood said:

The thread quality with Ballz and without is vastly different.

I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't posted in this thread yet. @StrongArmCobra you ok bro?

UW's class is head and shoulders above anybody else's in the Pac-12. I'm so satisfied right now. I can't wait to look back at this class in a few years with amazement and go down the list of great players UW got in this class. I also can't wait to look back at Oregon's class and laugh at all the busts, medical retirements, and transfers. Their hit rate is going to be so low. They will be the forever young team due to massive amounts of attrition and recruiting mistakes. On top of that UW, Stanford, WSU, and Cal all have better coaching staffs than them. They're fucked and they don't even know it yet.

This aged well

RoadDawg55 said:

Very late to this, but Buelow and Kalepo were always overrated by Doog fans. 4 star, but I never saw it with either. With the info from the NFL draft that smaller OL tend to end up better players, they were not great gets. Both need a couple years to lose some weight and get in shape. Then they are raw on the OL and slow footed already.

Give me Peacock over both those guys. He’s more of the raw clay than both Buelow and Kalepo.

DoogCourics said:

Wasn’t sure where to put this, but figured it would best go here.

The narrative is that Oregon is crushing it in recruiting like no one else on the west coast. They run it now and are the new USC. As has been hashed out plenty of times, UW has been right with them but suck at marketing so no one even knows. Plus Pete quit and the team sucked while Oregon won the Rose Bowel. So UW gets what they deserve.

With that out of the way:




Per Alger, the Ducks have 84 scholarship players — 37 on offense, 44 on defense and three specialists — and 38 who were rated four- or five-stars as recruits. That’s a blue-chip ratio of 45.2 percent. Their non-specialist blue-chip ratio is 38-of-81, or 46.9 percent.

Meanwhile, 43 of the 85 scholarship players listed on Washington’s roster were blue-chip recruits, which yields a ratio of 50.6 percent; the non-specialist blue-chip ratio is 43 of 81, or 53.0 percent. So the Huskies’ team-wide ratio is indeed higher than Oregon’s, at least for the time being.

Adhering strictly to Elliott’s methodology — blue-chip signees in the four most recent recruiting classes, not counting walk-ons or non-juco transfers — actually puts the Huskies further ahead. Best I can tell, UW’s blue-chip ratio among signees from 2017-20 is 44 of 83, or 53 percent, compared to Oregon’s 39 of 96, or 40.6 percent. Of course, when you sign larger classes, as the Ducks have, maintaining a high blue-chip ratio becomes less likely, even as you reel in considerable top-end talent. But it’s interesting that even in the past two classes, when Oregon’s recruiting really as taken off, the Huskies still have signed a greater raw number of blue-chip prospects (25 to 22) as well as a higher overall ratio (55.6 to 45.8).

DoogCourics said:

Wasn’t sure where to put this, but figured it would best go here.

The narrative is that Oregon is crushing it in recruiting like no one else on the west coast. They run it now and are the new USC. As has been hashed out plenty of times, UW has been right with them but suck at marketing so no one even knows. Plus Pete quit and the team sucked while Oregon won the Rose Bowel. So UW gets what they deserve.

With that out of the way:




Per Alger, the Ducks have 84 scholarship players — 37 on offense, 44 on defense and three specialists — and 38 who were rated four- or five-stars as recruits. That’s a blue-chip ratio of 45.2 percent. Their non-specialist blue-chip ratio is 38-of-81, or 46.9 percent.

Meanwhile, 43 of the 85 scholarship players listed on Washington’s roster were blue-chip recruits, which yields a ratio of 50.6 percent; the non-specialist blue-chip ratio is 43 of 81, or 53.0 percent. So the Huskies’ team-wide ratio is indeed higher than Oregon’s, at least for the time being.

Adhering strictly to Elliott’s methodology — blue-chip signees in the four most recent recruiting classes, not counting walk-ons or non-juco transfers — actually puts the Huskies further ahead. Best I can tell, UW’s blue-chip ratio among signees from 2017-20 is 44 of 83, or 53 percent, compared to Oregon’s 39 of 96, or 40.6 percent. Of course, when you sign larger classes, as the Ducks have, maintaining a high blue-chip ratio becomes less likely, even as you reel in considerable top-end talent. But it’s interesting that even in the past two classes, when Oregon’s recruiting really as taken off, the Huskies still have signed a greater raw number of blue-chip prospects (25 to 22) as well as a higher overall ratio (55.6 to 45.8).