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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
edited February 16 in College Football Forum
Are you ready to commit after two years? I'm not sure there is a choice these days but then again coaches break these deals all the time.

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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    I remember when UCLA did this for Mora. Worked out well for UW
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club

    I remember when UCLA did this for Mora. Worked out well for UW

    I would have done it for Rick but we already had overpaid to steal him
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    Don't sign it Mario. It'll make you more expensive for Momma. We need that $$ to seed a stadium fund.
  • Theironshiek
    Theironshiek Member Posts: 167
    More confident with CMC than I would be with Lake.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club

    More confident with CMC than I would be with Lake.

    Really? More confident with a two year coach who won the Rose Bowl than Lake

    I am shocked
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club
    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    haie said:

    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.

    Pretty much every sports organization does this. You have a coach who's come in and done what he's done, it would be VERY typical. Washington would do exactly the same thing. It wasn't just one season. You could see it coming last season. From a complete shit show under Helfrich, Oregon was on an upward trend in 2018 and everyone knows it.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.

    Pretty much every sports organization does this. You have a coach who's come in and done what he's done, it would be VERY typical. Washington would do exactly the same thing. It wasn't just one season. You could see it coming last season. From a complete shit show under Helfrich, Oregon was on an upward trend in 2018 and everyone knows it.
    He did in 2019 what UW did in 18 with one less loss (he had some close games to shitty teams like Beavlet, good on him) and played Wiscy in the Rose. He had an experienced team and quarterback like UW did as well.

    They had a good year and it depends on what the terms of the deal are (haven't checked), but I'd pump the breaks on giving him "you're going to keep doing this" kind of money.
  • ToiletSeat
    ToiletSeat Member Posts: 150
    He also won his NY6 bowl game.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,145
    Haie back to doogin it up
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.

    Pretty much every sports organization does this. You have a coach who's come in and done what he's done, it would be VERY typical. Washington would do exactly the same thing. It wasn't just one season. You could see it coming last season. From a complete shit show under Helfrich, Oregon was on an upward trend in 2018 and everyone knows it.
    He did in 2019 what UW did in 18 with one less loss (he had some close games to shitty teams like Beavlet, good on him) and played Wiscy in the Rose. He had an experienced team and quarterback like UW did as well.

    They had a good year and it depends on what the terms of the deal are (haven't checked), but I'd pump the breaks on giving him "you're going to keep doing this" kind of money.
    It's an entire crap shoot anyway. It's hard to deny that he took what was there and made it better, and he's recruited extremely well. He also made an ace hire in Avalos.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,145
    haie said:

    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.

    Cuz if there’s one thing oregon doesnt have, it’s money to pay the buyout if needed...
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club
    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,334 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Signing him to a long term deal after one successful season would be laughable stupidity. I almost want this more than a Phil Knight terminal brain tumor.

    Pretty much every sports organization does this. You have a coach who's come in and done what he's done, it would be VERY typical. Washington would do exactly the same thing. It wasn't just one season. You could see it coming last season. From a complete shit show under Helfrich, Oregon was on an upward trend in 2018 and everyone knows it.
    He did in 2019 what UW did in 18 with one less loss (he had some close games to shitty teams like Beavlet, good on him) and played Wiscy in the Rose. He had an experienced team and quarterback like UW did as well.

    They had a good year and it depends on what the terms of the deal are (haven't checked), but I'd pump the breaks on giving him "you're going to keep doing this" kind of money.
    Exactly, you dumb fuck. How much money was peterman making?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    Don't twist on me haie. I am as cynical about college coaching as they come. I get it. They pay him huge and then likely goes on an average run of nothing special. That's the likely scenario.

    My only point is that there's rarely much more to go on. What he's done thus far is more than enough to get him to another program. I joke about it but I'm also serious that I'd love Miami to give him a run. He believes in a style that I believe in, and as I told every single poster here, and was mocked for it, that he can recruit like a mother fucker, and I was right.

    Nobody who has ever coached at Oregon has brought in talent like he has in two short years. And he picked it up in shambles.

    Mario is as worth a gamble as anyone south of an Urban-like guy, and those guys aren't going to Oregon ... or Washington.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    edited February 2020
    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    From the guy who’s cranked to 11 on the riled up dial from sun up to sun down.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    Don't twist on me haie. I am as cynical about college coaching as they come. I get it. They pay him huge and then likely goes on an average run of nothing special. That's the likely scenario.

    My only point is that there's rarely much more to go on. What he's done thus far is more than enough to get him to another program. I joke about it but I'm also serious that I'd love Miami to give him a run. He believes in a style that I believe in, and as I told every single poster here, and was mocked for it, that he can recruit like a mother fucker, and I was right.

    Nobody who has ever coached at Oregon has brought in talent like he has in two short years. And he picked it up in shambles.

    Mario is as worth a gamble as anyone south of an Urban-like guy, and those guys aren't going to Oregon ... or Washington.
    I agree overall it's just funny how the next 2-3 years at Oregon are still pretty foggy, like everyone else. I'd pay him 3.5 or something over 2-3 years and tell him if he can do this again he'll get top of the conference money and a longer term.

    He didn't recruit the seniors that wanted to win and leave the program with better than a 4 win season and crushed by doog and beavlet...
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    From the guy who’s cranked to 11 on the riled up dial from sun up to sun down.
    Congratulations on being boring as fuck Mike.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,442 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited February 2020

    I remember when UCLA did this for Mora. Worked out well for UW

    I remember when UW did this for *insert HC name since 1993*. Worked out well for UO.
  • IPukeOregonGrellow
    IPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    edited February 2020
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    From the guy who’s cranked to 11 on the riled up dial from sun up to sun down.
    Congratulations on being boring as fuck cranking this site’s page views to 11,Mike.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    Don't twist on me haie. I am as cynical about college coaching as they come. I get it. They pay him huge and then likely goes on an average run of nothing special. That's the likely scenario.

    My only point is that there's rarely much more to go on. What he's done thus far is more than enough to get him to another program. I joke about it but I'm also serious that I'd love Miami to give him a run. He believes in a style that I believe in, and as I told every single poster here, and was mocked for it, that he can recruit like a mother fucker, and I was right.

    Nobody who has ever coached at Oregon has brought in talent like he has in two short years. And he picked it up in shambles.

    Mario is as worth a gamble as anyone south of an Urban-like guy, and those guys aren't going to Oregon ... or Washington.
    I agree overall it's just funny how the next 2-3 years at Oregon are still pretty foggy, like everyone else. I'd pay him 3.5 or something over 2-3 years and tell him if he can do this again he'll get top of the conference money and a longer term.

    He didn't recruit the seniors that wanted to win and leave the program with better than a 4 win season and crushed by doog and beavlet...
    No, he didn't, but he's brought in plenty who have already contributed Yugely. Things are foggy because replacing a senior QB and O line always makes things foggy. But unlike under Helfire, there is talent in the bullpen.

    He should get top 'o confrence money because he is top of the conference. Not saying much, but there you have it.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,856 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    Don't twist on me haie. I am as cynical about college coaching as they come. I get it. They pay him huge and then likely goes on an average run of nothing special. That's the likely scenario.

    My only point is that there's rarely much more to go on. What he's done thus far is more than enough to get him to another program. I joke about it but I'm also serious that I'd love Miami to give him a run. He believes in a style that I believe in, and as I told every single poster here, and was mocked for it, that he can recruit like a mother fucker, and I was right.

    Nobody who has ever coached at Oregon has brought in talent like he has in two short years. And he picked it up in shambles.

    Mario is as worth a gamble as anyone south of an Urban-like guy, and those guys aren't going to Oregon ... or Washington.
    I agree overall it's just funny how the next 2-3 years at Oregon are still pretty foggy, like everyone else. I'd pay him 3.5 or something over 2-3 years and tell him if he can do this again he'll get top of the conference money and a longer term.

    He didn't recruit the seniors that wanted to win and leave the program with better than a 4 win season and crushed by doog and beavlet...
    No, he didn't, but he's brought in plenty who have already contributed Yugely. Things are foggy because replacing a senior QB and O line always makes things foggy. But unlike under Helfire, there is talent in the bullpen.

    He should get top 'o confrence money because he is top of the conference. Not saying much, but there you have it.
    Top conference money for 1 year is fine. Again, they should be cautiously optimistic. We've now seen 2 instances in football and 1 in basketball where the head coach wins with either a mix of his predecessors guys and his own or mostly his predecessors guys.

    I just don't get not saying,"Look, that's awesome you won us a rose bowl but looking at how you did it we're going to give you top 4-5 money over 2 or 3 years, show us you're the best coach in the conference or with your recruiting it doesn't matter much and then we'll take care of you."

    He's a fun head coach when everything is clicking. If he's worth so much right now I would assume he did something worthwhile in 2018 besides barely beat a burnout at home.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    Don't twist on me haie. I am as cynical about college coaching as they come. I get it. They pay him huge and then likely goes on an average run of nothing special. That's the likely scenario.

    My only point is that there's rarely much more to go on. What he's done thus far is more than enough to get him to another program. I joke about it but I'm also serious that I'd love Miami to give him a run. He believes in a style that I believe in, and as I told every single poster here, and was mocked for it, that he can recruit like a mother fucker, and I was right.

    Nobody who has ever coached at Oregon has brought in talent like he has in two short years. And he picked it up in shambles.

    Mario is as worth a gamble as anyone south of an Urban-like guy, and those guys aren't going to Oregon ... or Washington.
    I agree overall it's just funny how the next 2-3 years at Oregon are still pretty foggy, like everyone else. I'd pay him 3.5 or something over 2-3 years and tell him if he can do this again he'll get top of the conference money and a longer term.

    He didn't recruit the seniors that wanted to win and leave the program with better than a 4 win season and crushed by doog and beavlet...
    No, he didn't, but he's brought in plenty who have already contributed Yugely. Things are foggy because replacing a senior QB and O line always makes things foggy. But unlike under Helfire, there is talent in the bullpen.

    He should get top 'o confrence money because he is top of the conference. Not saying much, but there you have it.
    Top conference money for 1 year is fine. Again, they should be cautiously optimistic. We've now seen 2 instances in football and 1 in basketball where the head coach wins with either a mix of his predecessors guys and his own or mostly his predecessors guys.

    I just don't get not saying,"Look, that's awesome you won us a rose bowl but looking at how you did it we're going to give you top 4-5 money over 2 or 3 years, show us you're the best coach in the conference or with your recruiting it doesn't matter much and then we'll take care of you."

    He's a fun head coach when everything is clicking. If he's worth so much right now I would assume he did something worthwhile in 2018 besides barely beat a burnout at home.
    That's reasonable. When you're the AD, you also have to be mindful of who you are and the odds you lose a rising talent.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Sorry to rile up the Springfield trailer park...

    From the guy who’s cranked to 11 on the riled up dial from sun up to sun down.
    Congratulations on being boring as fuck Mike.
    Sorry to rile up the Bellevue kale crew.


  • ramenduck
    ramenduck Member Posts: 734

    Are you ready to commit after two years? I'm not sure there is a choice these days but then again coaches break these deals all the time.

    I'm all in, pay the man. Whatever it is, Miami will be able to afford it anyway. Let's at least make it hard.
  • ramenduck said:

    Are you ready to commit after two years? I'm not sure there is a choice these days but then again coaches break these deals all the time.

    I'm all in, pay the man. Whatever it is, Miami will be able to afford it anyway. Let's at least make it hard.
    Miami doesn't have the money you think it does. Most rich people in Miami could care less about football.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082

    ramenduck said:

    Are you ready to commit after two years? I'm not sure there is a choice these days but then again coaches break these deals all the time.

    I'm all in, pay the man. Whatever it is, Miami will be able to afford it anyway. Let's at least make it hard.
    Miami doesn't have the money you think it does. Most rich people in Miami could care less about football.
    Couldn't care less.

    And that's true. Miami doesn't have a huge athletic budget.