Ouch NFL.COM (Regarding Salvon Ahmed)
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/salvon-ahmed?id=32194148-4d08-8990-8df4-f46ca7aff75b
Overview
Scatback who is light on his feet but suffers from a debilitating lack of vision and decisiveness that prevents him from reaching his athletic potential as a runner. Ahmed lacks feel for blocking scheme and run-lane development, but even struggled to see it and hit the gas when clear points of entry were available. He can hit a daily goal with the amount of steps he uses on each carry, but it prevents him from being able to plant and go with much-needed efficiency. He's athletic with open-field speed, but leaves too many chunk plays out on the field and faces an uphill battle to make a team.
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Even @GrandpaSankey saw this coming.PurpleSmoke said:Wonder if coming out early was a smart move Ahmed?
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Exactly what we have been saying
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Future star of the XFL
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It's almost like somebody on this board was saying ALL this before. I can't remember who that was.PurpleSmoke said:Wonder if coming out early was a smart move Ahmed?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/salvon-ahmed?id=32194148-4d08-8990-8df4-f46ca7aff75b
Overview
Scatback who is light on his feet but suffers from a debilitating lack of vision and decisiveness that prevents him from reaching his athletic potential as a runner. Ahmed lacks feel for blocking scheme and run-lane development, but even struggled to see it and hit the gas when clear points of entry were available. He can hit a daily goal with the amount of steps he uses on each carry, but it prevents him from being able to plant and go with much-needed efficiency. He's athletic with open-field speed, but leaves too many chunk plays out on the field and faces an uphill battle to make a team.
And who were the retards who had the opposite hot take? Stand and answer for yourselves.
"Ahmed is elite. Lol." -
Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
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Zierlein on Trey:After watching his 2016 tape in the summer of 2017, I came away believing Adams might be the most talented young tackle in college football. However, a 2017 ACL tear and 2018 back injury have taken several points away from his athletic rating.
I remember when Dennis gave me shit for saying that. It was one of the few good takes I had back then. Zierlein knows how to evaluate offensive linemen. Too bad about the injuries. -
@backthepack what say you?PurpleSmoke said:Wonder if coming out early was a smart move Ahmed?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/salvon-ahmed?id=32194148-4d08-8990-8df4-f46ca7aff75b
Overview
Scatback who is light on his feet but suffers from a debilitating lack of vision and decisiveness that prevents him from reaching his athletic potential as a runner. Ahmed lacks feel for blocking scheme and run-lane development, but even struggled to see it and hit the gas when clear points of entry were available. He can hit a daily goal with the amount of steps he uses on each carry, but it prevents him from being able to plant and go with much-needed efficiency. He's athletic with open-field speed, but leaves too many chunk plays out on the field and faces an uphill battle to make a team. -
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much. -
I really hate that McGrew's carries up the middle were given to him.RoadDawg55 said:
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much.
Yes, they were McGrew's based on performance.
This year was such a fucking "We just won the conference, fuck off" clown car of stupid decisions. -
I was never a fan of McGrew, but he was good this past year. It’s too bad he got hurt.haie said:
I really hate that McGrew's carries up the middle were given to him.RoadDawg55 said:
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much.
Yes, they were McGrew's based on performance.
This year was such a fucking "We just won the conference, fuck off" clown car of stupid decisions. -
Going to the draft made no sense at all. I wont be surprised if he goes undrafted. He could have had a nice senior season on a good team and couldn't have hurt his pro prospects a bit (since he's a shaky prospect to begin with).
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Sounds like a wide receiver to me
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Damone was right. Again.
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It was me.creepycoug said:
It's almost like somebody on this board was saying ALL this before. I can't remember who that was.PurpleSmoke said:Wonder if coming out early was a smart move Ahmed?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/salvon-ahmed?id=32194148-4d08-8990-8df4-f46ca7aff75b
Overview
Scatback who is light on his feet but suffers from a debilitating lack of vision and decisiveness that prevents him from reaching his athletic potential as a runner. Ahmed lacks feel for blocking scheme and run-lane development, but even struggled to see it and hit the gas when clear points of entry were available. He can hit a daily goal with the amount of steps he uses on each carry, but it prevents him from being able to plant and go with much-needed efficiency. He's athletic with open-field speed, but leaves too many chunk plays out on the field and faces an uphill battle to make a team.
And who were the retards who had the opposite hot take? Stand and answer for yourselves.
"Ahmed is elite. Lol." -
Well. He has a short shelf life and needs to take care of his family.
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Running backs aren't really "coached", other than to pass block. You don't teach vision and feel. You got it or you don't.RoadDawg55 said:
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much. -
He wasnt getting better and was going to cede even more carries if not the starting job to Newton.chuck said:Going to the draft made no sense at all. I wont be surprised if he goes undrafted. He could have had a nice senior season on a good team and couldn't have hurt his pro prospects a bit (since he's a shaky prospect to begin with).
His entire value is based around tricking someone into looking at his underwear Olympic numbers and taking a shot on him in round 4-6. Might as well go now rather after another season of minimal improvement when they will have more tape of his poor blocking, bad vision, and abysmal balance/feel.
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He'll either convert to being a WR or not make it in the league. Either way, practice squad player. Still think he made the right decision in leaving, though. His stock want going to magically jump next year after losing carries to Wild Dick.
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I don't completely agree. We watched Louis Rankin go from clueless as a sophomore to a short NFL career. He got better. Ahmed got slightly better, but as 99% of us said, leaving early was a mistake.creepycoug said:
Running backs aren't really "coached", other than to pass block. You don't teach vision and feel. You got it or you don't.RoadDawg55 said:
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much. -
I’m convinced if all he did was the jet sweep he'd have been lethal and the entire offense would have opened up.
Give him one read one angle and put pressure on the D to contain his ass. Sometimes football is as simple as having the faster guy beat the slower guy to a spot. -
He was a forgettable UW running back. Pretty pedestrian most of the time. Brought down way too many time by half-assed arm tackles and left us with way too many 2nd and 11s.
The regression of our O line this year didnt do him any favors but if he had returned, I could see him getting less carries with the rise of Mighty Dick and possibly Cam Davis. Throw him on the pile of DDY/Coker overhypes -
Oregon has a receiver built like a RB, I think his last name is Redd (FREE PUB for @Swaye). They used that guy a play went in motion to the left of the formation, faked the run to the right and threw back to Redd where he had open field in front of him.Doogles said:I’m convinced if all he did was the jet sweep he'd have been lethal and the entire offense would have opened up.
Give him one read one angle and put pressure on the D to contain his ass. Sometimes football is as simple as having the faster guy beat the slower guy to a spot.
It was a good way to get the defense moving away from the play and creating an opportunity for a guy to make someone miss.
We? could’ve done the same with Ahmed but instead we ran Pete’s offense and kept putting Bacciella on the field. -
Our wood be OC Andy Reid would get Ahmed in "space" and let it rip downfield. Speed speed speed is wasted by the old staff here
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i wouldn’t call him overhyped. he was what we hope for - a rare human with that speed. he did not have the vision or intangibles required to be elite at the RB role though.bananasnblondes said:He was a forgettable UW running back. Pretty pedestrian most of the time. Brought down way too many time by half-assed arm tackles and left us with way too many 2nd and 11s.
The regression of our O line this year didnt do him any favors but if he had returned, I could see him getting less carries with the rise of Mighty Dick and possibly Cam Davis. Throw him on the pile of DDY/Coker overhypes -
Yep. In the Boise game we finally threw a swing pass to him and he broke off a big gain. He needs to get up to speed because when he does he can cut full speed where he was actually great. He wasn’t terrible in between the tackles but it wasn’t his strength. He could have been a lot better and had more big plays but our coaching sucked.Doogles said:I’m convinced if all he did was the jet sweep he'd have been lethal and the entire offense would have opened up.
Give him one read one angle and put pressure on the D to contain his ass. Sometimes football is as simple as having the faster guy beat the slower guy to a spot. -
I remember that play and that is exactly the type of stuff we should have done with Ahmed. We rarely did. I don’t think we had many, maybe not any, designated passes to him where he wasn’t just a check down option.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Oregon has a receiver built like a RB, I think his last name is Redd (FREE PUB for @Swaye). They used that guy a play went in motion to the left of the formation, faked the run to the right and threw back to Redd where he had open field in front of him.Doogles said:I’m convinced if all he did was the jet sweep he'd have been lethal and the entire offense would have opened up.
Give him one read one angle and put pressure on the D to contain his ass. Sometimes football is as simple as having the faster guy beat the slower guy to a spot.
It was a good way to get the defense moving away from the play and creating an opportunity for a guy to make someone miss.
We? could’ve done the same with Ahmed but instead we ran Pete’s offense and kept putting Bacciella on the field. -
He was chronically misused by the coaches. The Stanford game comes to mind. His total lack of involvement in the passing game. I’d LEAVE! too.
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Meant how he was used. I agree with you. Feel for the game can marginally improve, but you either have it or you don’t.creepycoug said:
Running backs aren't really "coached", other than to pass block. You don't teach vision and feel. You got it or you don't.RoadDawg55 said:
He was better this year. I don’t think we gave him the best coaching or used him in the best way. Sometimes he would run into his blockers and other times he would be too patient and miss the holes.NorwegianHusky said:Everyone here could see he never got any better from year to year. Maybe a little more physical, but not that much, and he never got any better at reading blocks. Another year probably wouldn't do much, but he really had no reason to leave early.
He didn’t appear to have great feel at UW but maybe part of that was coaching. I thought he would be a better player for us, but he was still pretty good. At the same time, I don’t know if we will miss him very much. -
Newton was tearing it up against Stanford until he got hurt, mainly because he has at least average vision and can actually break a tackle. Ahmed sucked in that game because of his limitations.ThomasFremont said:He was chronically misused by the coaches. The Stanford game comes to mind. His total lack of involvement in the passing game. I’d LEAVE! too.
Ahmed is like Eason, one elite characteristic combined with three below average characteristics. -
I'm not even going to read all the comments because the first few were just sucking each other off for "knowing this already".
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Scene 1: This ENTIRE board loved him coming into this season. He was going to be an athlete at another level and no one else had the chops.
Scene 2: A FRESHMAN rb comes in and takes his carries.
Scene 3: He is mediocre with elite flashes and leaves early because he knows the younger runners in the room will beat him out again this year and drop him in the draft next year.
I have said Mcgrew > achmed at this level and I stand by that.
Achmed couldn't block or catch a ball.
