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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Doogles said:

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    The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

    I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up
    In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

    They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.
    Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.
    I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.
    Great, and there will be a shit ton of 40-60 something's who will be inspired to vote against Bernie. Bernie has come out against fracking. Do you think that helps him in Pennsylvania? Do you think that Unionized auto workers want to give up their private health insurance in order to go on some government form of healthcare?
    I don't know about all that or pretend to be a political guru, just my average Joe millennial take that was right before.

    I think Trump and Bernie are different sides of the same anti establishment coin. Go back and watch the YouTube videos of everyone laughing at the notion Trump would get the nomination let alone the presidency.

    You sound a lot like they did. I think there is something there.
    People laughed at Trump getting the nomination because they thought he personally was a joke not because they thought that people didn't support the policies he was promoting. There are a number of policies being promoted by Bernie that large numbers of people do not support.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    I will agree there are lots of silent Trump voters. No way are people like @YellowSnow and I wearing MAGA hats but come election time it's pretty clear we aren't voting for socialismo.

    I won't vote for the Dem nominee and I'm through with progressives until the the needles, poop, tents and RVs are gone from my neighborhood.

    Whether I go 2 silver dollar libertariantard or Trump will depend on the State of the Union in Nov 2020.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    89ute said:

    A lot of Dems are not going to show up to vote. Mainly, the Biden Dems. Iowa turnout was lackluster. I think Biden's base (centrist, older school Dems) gave up many months ago when they saw their candidate was a fucking senile drooler. I also think these people will not swing over to Bernie. They'd rather see Trump and their will vote will be a no vote. Helps Trump.

    Bernie's got the most active, vocal, energized base. Not nearly enough in my opinion. Plus, some, possibly many of the flakey fucks won't actually vote.

    Furthermore, I think there are a hell of a lot silent Trump voters.

    Bernie isn't going to turn out the black vote either. Yeah they'll vote for him because he has a D after his name but there isn't going to be energetic support for him coming from blacks.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    I will agree there are lots of silent Trump voters. No way are people like @YellowSnow and I wearing MAGA hats but come election time it's pretty clear we aren't voting for socialismo.

    I won't vote for the Dem nominee and I'm through with progressives until the the needles, poop, tents and RVs are gone from my neighborhood.

    Whether I go 2 silver dollar libertariantard or Trump will depend on the State of the Union in Nov 2020.
    Pretty much where I'm at. My best guess is I'll be voting Libertarian again but it's really meaningless which I choose in the Sipp.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I will agree there are lots of silent Trump voters. No way are people like @YellowSnow and I wearing MAGA hats but come election time it's pretty clear we aren't voting for socialismo.

    Oh my fren yella is bustin out the maga