It looks like it worked

RaceBannon

Talking heads this morning saying that Iowa doesn't matter anymore because we're on to New Hampshire

Still don't have full results

So the Biden disaster is swept under the rug. Bernie denied a big moment. Mayor Cheat steals the headline. And the election.

Hillary wins again.

SFGbob

RaceBannon said:

Talking heads this morning saying that Iowa doesn't matter anymore because we're on to New Hampshire

Still don't have full results

So the Biden disaster is swept under the rug. Bernie denied a big moment. Mayor Cheat steals the headline. And the election.

Hillary wins again.

Saw a graphic yesterday, don't know how accurate it was but the claim was that the areas where Bernie had the strongest support were coincidentally the areas that had the biggest problems reporting their results.

pawz

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Talking heads this morning saying that Iowa doesn't matter anymore because we're on to New Hampshire

Still don't have full results

So the Biden disaster is swept under the rug. Bernie denied a big moment. Mayor Cheat steals the headline. And the election.

Hillary wins again.

Saw a graphic yesterday, don't know how accurate it was but the claim was that the areas where Bernie had the strongest support were coincidentally the areas that had the biggest problems reporting their results.

That's not surprising. At all.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

I got into an argument on social media about this. Die hard Seattle liberals refuse to believe they're stacking the decks against Feel the Bern. I'm a conspiracy theorist for suggesting it. Total ostriches.

SFGbob

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

I got into an argument on social media about this. Die hard Seattle liberals refuse to believe they're stacking the decks against Feel the Bern. I'm a conspiracy theorist for suggesting it. Total ostriches.

The party establishment doesn't want him and believes that if he is their nominee they are going to get beat in a landslide. They're Rats, they've been stealing/rigging elections forever. It's in their DNA. To believe that the party establishment is just going to let Bernie win the nomination is pretty naive.

89ute

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

I got into an argument on social media about this. Die hard Seattle liberals refuse to believe they're stacking the decks against Feel the Bern. I'm a conspiracy theorist for suggesting it. Total ostriches.

Aren't the die hard Seattle libs FOR Bernie? I would think they would be highly sensitive to anything remotely fishy given his screwing last year.

Swaye

If you cannot see the establishment Dems are actively trying to fuck The Heartattack Kid over then you are either willfully ignorant, or stupid.

Doogles

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

RaceBannon

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

Swaye

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuwhatthefuck inspire precisely nobody. Ever.

RaceBannon

I'm not sure that Pat Robertson was any more self righteous than Mayor Cheat. And thank you to the Bernie Bros for giving Trump the nickname for him if he does win

SFGbob

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

I still don't believe that there are more people in this country who want open borders and to pay for illegals healthcare then there are people who opposes it. Yeah the Bernie Bros may show up but are they really a majority?

Doogles

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Assuming he survives, it would link a socialist bridge to the first female president Squad member AOC

EsophagealFeces

Swaye said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuwhatthefuck inspire precisely nobody. Ever.

Missed opportunity for Klobutard.

RaceBannon

SFGbob said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

I still don't believe that there are more people in this country who want open borders and to pay for illegals healthcare then there are people who opposes it. Yeah the Bernie Bros may show up but are they really a majority?

I don't think they are. I do think we are better beating Bernie than having him be a martyr for four more years

They think they are a majority and they think they will beat Trump. I don't but lets get it on

SFGbob

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

Trump was in favor of doing things that a majority of the public wanted. Getting rid of the private health insurance for every American isn't something that a majority of Americans support.

Doogles

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

SFGbob

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

Great, and there will be a shit ton of 40-60 something's who will be inspired to vote against Bernie. Bernie has come out against fracking. Do you think that helps him in Pennsylvania? Do you think that Unionized auto workers want to give up their private health insurance in order to go on some government form of healthcare?

TurdBomber

Swaye said:

If you cannot see the establishment Dems are actively trying to fuck The Heartattack Kid over then you are either willfully ignorant, or stupid.

Can't believe the Charles Grodin & Cybill Shepherd (when she was an Uber Wood) reference there. Do you realize the significance of that reference, @Swaye?

YellowSnow

Trump will destroy Bernie.

Swaye

TurdBomber said:

Swaye said:

If you cannot see the establishment Dems are actively trying to fuck The Heartattack Kid over then you are either willfully ignorant, or stupid.

Can't believe the Charles Grodin & Cybill Shepherd (when she was an Uber Wood) reference there. Do you realize the significance of that reference, @Swaye?

I have no idea who Charles Grodin is I just thought it would be funny to hijack The Heartbreak Kid and turn it into the Heartattack Kid.

UW_Doog_Bot

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

This is my experience. Bernie's probably the only one that can take the white working class vote back from Trump imo.

I might be wrong but yeah, I think he's the only one with a chance to beat Trump. The rest are landslides waiting to be crushed.

Doogles

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

Great, and there will be a shit ton of 40-60 something's who will be inspired to vote against Bernie. Bernie has come out against fracking. Do you think that helps him in Pennsylvania? Do you think that Unionized auto workers want to give up their private health insurance in order to go on some government form of healthcare?

I don't know about all that or pretend to be a political guru, just my average Joe millennial take that was right before.

I think Trump and Bernie are different sides of the same anti establishment coin. Go back and watch the YouTube videos of everyone laughing at the notion Trump would get the nomination let alone the presidency.

You sound a lot like they did. I think there is something there.

TurdBomber

Swaye said:

TurdBomber said:

Swaye said:

If you cannot see the establishment Dems are actively trying to fuck The Heartattack Kid over then you are either willfully ignorant, or stupid.

Can't believe the Charles Grodin & Cybill Shepherd (when she was an Uber Wood) reference there. Do you realize the significance of that reference, @Swaye?

I have no idea who Charles Grodin is I just thought it would be funny to hijack The Heartbreak Kid and turn it into the Heartattack Kid.

The original "Heartbreak Kid," long before Ben Stiller's redo.

GrundleStiltzkin

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

I think you're right, morally which is enough. However, relying on that demographic to vote typically doesn't end well.

RaceBannon

Trump didn't call it the Blue Collar Boom because he is unaware of the Bernie threat to the working class vote

I think that socialists have always overestimated their appeal to blue collar workers. They may be getting fucked but they don't like to be thought of as victims. They don't want hand outs they want a good paying job and a house to drink beer in and watch TV. Was that snobbish enough?

Its a valid argument and the democrat establishment is doing all it can to help Bernie but Trump hasn't lost much if any support since 2016. Its that different side of the coin that makes the difference

I still say Bernie let history pass him by in the first debate with Hillary where he laid down on the emails.

dnc

RaceBannon said:

Trump didn't call it the Blue Collar Boom because he is unaware of the Bernie threat to the working class vote

I think that socialists have always overestimated their appeal to blue collar workers. They may be getting fucked but they don't like to be thought of as victims. They don't want hand outs they want a good paying job and a house to drink beer in and watch TV. Was that snobbish enough?

Its a valid argument and the democrat establishment is doing all it can to help Bernie but Trump hasn't lost much if any support since 2016. Its that different side of the coin that makes the difference

I still say Bernie let history pass him by in the first debate with Hillary where he laid down on the emails.

Wait what?

89ute

A lot of Dems are not going to show up to vote. Mainly, the Biden Dems. Iowa turnout was lackluster. I think Biden's base (centrist, older school Dems) gave up many months ago when they saw their candidate was a fucking senile drooler. I also think these people will not swing over to Bernie. They'd rather see Trump and their will vote will be a no vote. Helps Trump.

Bernie's got the most active, vocal, energized base. Not nearly enough in my opinion. Plus, some, possibly many of the flakey fucks won't actually vote.

Furthermore, I think there are a hell of a lot silent Trump voters.

RaceBannon

dnc said:

RaceBannon said:

Trump didn't call it the Blue Collar Boom because he is unaware of the Bernie threat to the working class vote

I think that socialists have always overestimated their appeal to blue collar workers. They may be getting fucked but they don't like to be thought of as victims. They don't want hand outs they want a good paying job and a house to drink beer in and watch TV. Was that snobbish enough?

Its a valid argument and the democrat establishment is doing all it can to help Bernie but Trump hasn't lost much if any support since 2016. Its that different side of the coin that makes the difference

I still say Bernie let history pass him by in the first debate with Hillary where he laid down on the emails.

Wait what?

If you are an anti establishment candidate it helps to have the establishment hate you

Just like the GOP establishment helped Trump

Trump beat them. So far Bernie is 0 and 1 with the new game still going

RaceBannon

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

I think you're right, morally which is enough. However, relying on that demographic to vote typically doesn't end well.

I fucking KNEW that McGovern was going to win because everyone I knew hated Nixon. I was convinced

I will never forget turning on Walter Cronkite at 5 PM Pacific when the east coast polls closed and Nixon was projected the winner when they came on air

Fuck that stung. But youthful idealists tend to be idealistic

89ute

RaceBannon said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Doogles said:

SFGbob said:

Doogles said:

RaceBannon said:

Doogles said:

The irony is Bernie gives them their best shot.

I think this is true simply because his voters seem to give a shit and will show up

In my little average Joe bubble that sniffed out a Trump win back in 2015 in spite what my media was telling me, I have the same instinct Bernie would be a real problem.

They would show up, plus the 'anyone but Trump' sentiment is strong enough to pull the middle left.

Every professional liberal who has made a few bucks and would like to keep some of them isn't going to vote for Bernie. They may not vote for Trump but they certainly aren't going to vote for Bernie and his "free" shit for everyone party.

I get that, but I think you're under estimating how many 20-30 something's would be inspired to vote for Bernie. I see it on my feed every day. A lot of smart kids sitting on 100k of student loan debt upset at the world trying to be woke.

I think you're right, morally which is enough. However, relying on that demographic to vote typically doesn't end well.

I fucking KNEW that McGovern was going to win because everyone I knew hated Nixon. I was convinced

I will never forget turning on Walter Cronkite at 5 PM Pacific when the east coast polls closed and Nixon was projected the winner when they came on air

Fuck that stung. But youthful idealists tend to be idealistic

One of my wives is your age. She agrees - same story. She often says if all the people who say the voted for McGovern actually voted for McGovern he would have won in a landslide.