LA Times writer witnessed Kobe copter crash
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Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Exactly. The degree of my mourning is proximity based.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Ice gets it.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Yup. Grief clout. Happens every 9/11 too. It’s disgustingMikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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It's seems like it shouldn't be that hard to grasp. How many jerseys has Kobe sold over his career? Shoes? "Kobe" shots of paper into the trash?RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
Yes social media is a tool for narcissists, but there is a reason sports are a billion dollar business and this many care.
It's not that his life is more valuable, it's that his life imprinted on a lot more people than the pilot or the other coaches. -
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Game, set and matchYellowSnow said:
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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America shares it sports and movie stars. It's our only shared culture anymore. It's like gathering around the town square except we're alone
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Your best effort ever and it will never be topped.HuskyJW said:I was at Costco buying a tv
Got the $1.50 hot dog like a boss. Treated the whole family to lunch. Wife got a smoothie instead.....bitch
Heard the news at the food court. Yelled out “FUCK!” Some guy says....”oh you heard about Kobe too?”
“No... deli mustard is out. Have to use yellow mustard like a poor.”
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I'm not sure I am comfortable with the thought of you having access to a plane.PurpleBaze said:
Yella gets it.YellowSnow said:
Of course, I'd be scared shitless. I don't have thousands of hours of training and I don't know how all the instruments and systems work that are designed to keep the plane flying safely through zero visibility. I leave these things to the professionals who aren't allowed to be scared.Houhusky said:
You would be scared too if you were at cruising altitude somewhere between 20,000 - 30,000 feet and were suddenly in a deep marine layer fog that maxes out at roughly 5,000 feet.YellowSnow said:RoadDawg55 said:
My buddy is a pilot for Alaska and did a Sea-San Diego flight around the same time and he said he couldn’t see shit and was a little scared himself. When he landed he learned Kobe died in a very similar place to where he lost visibility.Houhusky said:"it was a foggy morning, with visibility at less than 60 feet."
"Using binoculars, I was able to see the aircraft had been torn apart and was on fire."
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The day Chris Farley died impacted me way more than Kobe. And Harambe. I'm still recovering from that one.
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He doesn't need to learn how to land so there's thatSwaye said:
I'm not sure I am comfortable with the thought of you having access to a plane.PurpleBaze said:
Yella gets it.YellowSnow said:
Of course, I'd be scared shitless. I don't have thousands of hours of training and I don't know how all the instruments and systems work that are designed to keep the plane flying safely through zero visibility. I leave these things to the professionals who aren't allowed to be scared.Houhusky said:
You would be scared too if you were at cruising altitude somewhere between 20,000 - 30,000 feet and were suddenly in a deep marine layer fog that maxes out at roughly 5,000 feet.YellowSnow said:RoadDawg55 said:
My buddy is a pilot for Alaska and did a Sea-San Diego flight around the same time and he said he couldn’t see shit and was a little scared himself. When he landed he learned Kobe died in a very similar place to where he lost visibility.Houhusky said:"it was a foggy morning, with visibility at less than 60 feet."
"Using binoculars, I was able to see the aircraft had been torn apart and was on fire."
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We usually stay at a resort in Newport Beach adjacent to the development where Kobe lived. Apparently, he used to go to the same grocery store I frequent to stock up the 2 bedroom suite with booze and meals.
I drove up to @UW_Doog_Bot 's house once on the 405. No helicopter. Shitty Jeep rental car. Life's hard. -
I cried when they shot Ol Yeller.
And when Brian Picholo died.
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Pavilions? I had a friend that lived on the beach by the boardwalk area and there was nowhere to park. So I parked at Pavillions. I went on a weekend bender and eventually made my way back to the parking lot where my car was just about to get towed. Tow truck driver was just starting to load it up. I got there just in time. CSB.YellowSnow said:We usually stay at a resort in Newport Beach adjacent to the development where Kobe lived. Apparently, he used to go to the same grocery store I frequent to stock up the 2 bedroom suite with booze and meals.
I drove up to @UW_Doog_Bot 's house once on the 405. No helicopter. Shitty Jeep rental car. Life's hard. -
Kobe was the basketball icon of my youth. I'd wager I have more invested memories of watching him play than anyone on the boreds. Still the #1 thing that hit me when I heard about this is how awful it had to be to go down in a helicopter with your daughter knowing there's nothing you can do.
As you assholes eloquently pointed out I'm not really interested in the social media virtue signaling circle jerk about this event. Was stuck in the hospital yesterday watching ESPN on repeat and the coverage was so contrived that I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV Iraqi style.
Kobe and by proxy his daughter are going to get more coverage purely because Kobe touched more lives. More people are there to give a shit bc they have a direct memory of him. It's just that simple. Same goes for anyone else of note vs. one of us basement dwellers. That's the world.
Irregardless, Kobe had the potential to do a lot more good in this world than the bad he had done. It sucks that we all lost that. -
Pavillions up on Newport Coast Drive past Pelican Hill Resort. It's Safeway for rich people.RoadDawg55 said:
Pavilions? I had a friend that lived on the beach by the boardwalk area and there was nowhere to park. So I parked at Pavillions. I went on a weekend bender and eventually made my way back to the parking lot where my car was just about to get towed. Tow truck driver was just starting to load it up. I got there just in time. CSB.YellowSnow said:We usually stay at a resort in Newport Beach adjacent to the development where Kobe lived. Apparently, he used to go to the same grocery store I frequent to stock up the 2 bedroom suite with booze and meals.
I drove up to @UW_Doog_Bot 's house once on the 405. No helicopter. Shitty Jeep rental car. Life's hard. -
If Kobe Fucking Bryant is an Angel in Heaven with what he did....I have a free pass to the front of the line and am not worried in the leastYellowSnow said:
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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Magic’s announcement taught me be careful who you sleep with ...Tequilla said:
I can’t speak to anyone’s ageEwaDawg said:
Precisely why I can't figure out why anyone would say the day Magic retired was a sadder day.Tequilla said:It doesn’t matter at this point
What matters is families were ripped apart at their core
And way down the pecking order the world of basketball lost an influencer that had the power to influence both men’s and women’s basketball going forward in a profound way
For as great as Kobe was on the court ... he held the power to be a greater influence off of it
It’s beyond a sad day ...
And fuck anybody that wants to come out with a “I seen it” perspective
You know anyone who tweeted that?
In 1991 HIV was a death sentence ...
Magic was an active player coming off a trip to the Finals ...
Kobe was retired ...
I’m gutted by all the children involved as it’s beyond horrible
I don’t know how you compare the two ...
I wasn’t yet a teenager for Magic ... I’m in my 40s for Kobe ... maybe that’s jading me a bit
Both are monumental you know were you were hearing the news ... I was and am deeply impacted all day ... I will be for a while
This is so devastating on so many levels ...
Magic’s announcement taught me be careful who you sleep with ...
Kobe is a flat out tragedy ...
What am I supposed to think?
Fuck you for in any way suggesting that my feelings are right, wrong, or anything in between
This sucks ... and I’ve been hurting all day ... and I will be hurting for a while
It’s just bad ... so so bad
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Why are you fags so stuck on this? It was a long time ago and nobody even knows what really happened.HuskyJW said:
If Kobe Fucking Bryant is an Angel in Heaven with what he did....I have a free pass to the front of the line and am not worried in the leastYellowSnow said:
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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True. But the people who only knew him through television can go fuck themselves with their Facebook posts and telling us where they were when they heard. No one gives a fuck were you where or what you thought.UW_Doog_Bot said:Kobe was the basketball icon of my youth. I'd wager I have more invested memories of watching him play than anyone on the boreds. Still the #1 thing that hit me when I heard about this is how awful it had to be to go down in a helicopter with your daughter knowing there's nothing you can do.
As you assholes eloquently pointed out I'm not really interested in the social media virtue signaling circle jerk about this event. Was stuck in the hospital yesterday watching ESPN on repeat and the coverage was so contrived that I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV Iraqi style.
Kobe and by proxy his daughter are going to get more coverage purely because Kobe touched more lives. More people are there to give a shit bc they have a direct memory of him. It's just that simple. Same goes for anyone else of note vs. one of us basement dwellers. That's the world.
Irregardless, Kobe had the potential to do a lot more good in this world than the bad he had done. It sucks that we all lost that.
I wonder what these people where thinking knowing there is nothing they can do when they were going down? Actually, they weren't famous so know one gave a fuck except their friends and family
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Did she forget the other 7 angels Heaven got?YellowSnow said:
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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The odds of a hetero dick and vag transmission of HIV is about one in ten thousand. What in the hell are you brigands arguing about? What the fuck is this thread haha
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That's what I'm saying !Gladstone said:The odds of a hetero dick and vag transmission of HIV is about one in ten thousand. What in the hell are you brigands arguing about? What the fuck is this thread haha
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Not really. You’re not really standing out by posting a message about Kobe’s death. Most aren’t offering condolences.MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
I agree that celebrity deaths can be annoying and get your point, but the real way people use death for narcissistic purposes are the monthly reminders and notes to their deceased relatives. Some people really go heavy with that.
It’s the same for people that write personal stuff, directed to their two year old child. The kid isn’t reading this and it’s all for likes and comments.
Don’t you get sick of this shtick tho? Just don’t read that stuff or ignore it. Kobe had an impact and was the biggest star in his profession for years. Of course it’s big news when he dies at 41, just a couple years removed from being an active player. -
They didn't go to mass right before the flight.Baseman said:
Did she forget the other 7 angels Heaven got?YellowSnow said:
So much this...MikeDamone said:
Maybe. Of course it big news when a celebrity dies. Especially when they are relatively young. But in the age of social media people are even more likely to attempt to "insert" themselves into the event. Like starting Facebook threads and people offering condolences is a meaningless way and in a way no one actually suffering from the tragedy will ever see. It's essentially just more narcissism in an increasing look at me world.RoadDawg55 said:
The more famous person has had a bigger impact on the world, therefore they get more emphasis. Seems pretty normal and fair to me.Ice_Holmvik said:Here's my opinion on it. Everyone struggles in life, everyone loses loved ones. Tragic for the young girl and other families. Kobe was lotteried talent at birth. Life changing talent that he did some good with and some bad things with. We all do what we can with what we have and make mistakes and contributions. To put more emphasis on a star athletes death or famous person's death is fucking stupid. He's no more deserving of being missed because he was great at basketball than anyone else should be. Mourn those close to yourself they're the ones who are Important. Rally around your own the rest should do the same.
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I will say this - for 24 hours, it was nice to have a reprieve from Trump Derangement Syndrome and leftist/right wing shit.
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