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So why did Burisma hire Hunter Biden?

SFGbob
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O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    They didn't hire him. He was a paid board member. Maybe they needed access to hookers and blow. You telling me you hate hookers and blow now? @Swaye
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  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Hookers and blow is not a partisan issue!
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    One reason is so they could use his name/connections to lobby the state department to get Ukraine to back off investigating Burisma. At least that's what some FOI emails showed.




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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    No wonder the ambassador got fired
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2020
    HoustonHusky said:

    One reason is so they could use his name/connections to lobby the state department to get Ukraine to back off investigating Burisma. At least that's what some FOI emails showed.




    Gosh, if Burisma was using the fact that Hunter was on the BOD in order to proclaim their innocence and vouch for their lack of corruption, that sure seems like more than O'Keefed's sword swallowing act on behalf of Hunter where he dismissed the hire as nothing more than Hunter trading off his name.

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093
    Why does a oligarch controlled private company need a board?

    An independent board is not required.

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  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    Likely potential future political favors. Next question.

    PS. You do realize President Trump would likely be a nobody without his fathers seed money and significant influence in the real estate industry?
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093
    PurpleThrobber said:

    Why does a oligarch controlled private company need a board?

    An independent board is not required.

    Hint: There's only two reasons - neither of which have anything to do with 'advisory' capacity.

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,924
    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    I have no idea what they got. Maybe they believed they'd get something and were mistaken.

    Tell us what they got, blob.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,924
    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,057
    edited January 2020
    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    For political influence. I mean, if Biden Jr. had been a captain of [other] industry or otherwise important, then sure, public companies appoint people like that all the time. For sure, he didn't have to be an expert or PhD in whatever energy or mining or whatever it is that company does. Boards have directors from academia who've never worked in real life outside of the academy. I've dealt with them. The ENRON board had a guy from Yale who testified that he didn't know the business and just flew into Houston on a company plane for a nice lunch and dinner and some board comaraderie and listened to a bunch of shit he didn't understand and left. There's less of that now (precisely because of ENRON), but still ....

    With that said, Biden Jr.'s only real quals were his government connections. But even that isn't in and of itself that outlandish. Usually it's the person themselves who have the connection, ie, Biden Sr. In this case, it's the son.

    So, in any context in which there is suspicion of monkey business between the company, a government and the US government, sure, it's ripe for questioning. But it's also fair to say, you don't need to be a specifically-impressive person to get on a board. There are a lot of board members out there who can't find their asses w/o someone helping them.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,924
    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
    Especially knowing grandpa hairy legs used quid pro quo to end the investigation into their corruption. Well son a a bitch...
    You actually need evidence that his objective was ending the investigation. Without false equivalents, you gals would have any equivalents.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
    Especially knowing grandpa hairy legs used quid pro quo to end the investigation into their corruption. Well son a a bitch...
    You actually need evidence that his objective was ending the investigation. Without false equivalents, you gals would have any equivalents.
    Demanding the investigation end is kind of a tell

    For someone who has imagined Trump's guilt for four years your inability to see real evidence is hilarious
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,135 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
    Especially knowing grandpa hairy legs used quid pro quo to end the investigation into their corruption. Well son a a bitch...
    You actually need evidence that his objective was ending the investigation. Without false equivalents, you gals would have any equivalents.
    So 2 + 2 isn't good enough for an investigation but it's good enough for impeachment. Got it.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HustlinOwl said:

    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    Likely potential future political favors. Next question.

    PS. You do realize President Trump would likely be a nobody without his fathers seed money and significant influence in the real estate industry?
    You do realize that with just a little more effort you can get Obama’s cock further down your throat.

    I forget, how much Federal tax revenue did Trump get from his father?
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    For political influence. I mean, if Biden Jr. had been a captain of [other] industry or otherwise important, then sure, public companies appoint people like that all the time. For sure, he didn't have to be an expert or PhD in whatever energy or mining or whatever it is that company does. Boards have directors from academia who've never worked in real life outside of the academy. I've dealt with them. The ENRON board had a guy from Yale who testified that he didn't know the business and just flew into Houston on a company plane for a nice lunch and dinner and some board comaraderie and listened to a bunch of shit he didn't understand and left. There's less of that now (precisely because of ENRON), but still ....

    With that said, Biden Jr.'s only real quals were his government connections. But even that isn't in and of itself that outlandish. Usually it's the person themselves who have the connection, ie, Biden Sr. In this case, it's the son.

    So, in any context in which there is suspicion of monkey business between the company, a government and the US government, sure, it's ripe for questioning. But it's also fair to say, you don't need to be a specifically-impressive person to get on a board. There are a lot of board members out there who can't find their asses w/o someone helping them.
    What’s the number of crack heads on BODs?
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093
    edited January 2020
    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    For political influence. I mean, if Biden Jr. had been a captain of [other] industry or otherwise important, then sure, public companies appoint people like that all the time. For sure, he didn't have to be an expert or PhD in whatever energy or mining or whatever it is that company does. Boards have directors from academia who've never worked in real life outside of the academy. I've dealt with them. The ENRON board had a guy from Yale who testified that he didn't know the business and just flew into Houston on a company plane for a nice lunch and dinner and some board comaraderie and listened to a bunch of shit he didn't understand and left. There's less of that now (precisely because of ENRON), but still ....

    With that said, Biden Jr.'s only real quals were his government connections. But even that isn't in and of itself that outlandish. Usually it's the person themselves who have the connection, ie, Biden Sr. In this case, it's the son.

    So, in any context in which there is suspicion of monkey business between the company, a government and the US government, sure, it's ripe for questioning. But it's also fair to say, you don't need to be a specifically-impressive person to get on a board. There are a lot of board members out there who can't find their asses w/o someone helping them.
    You got one reason for lackey board members reasonably correct:

    Those kind of board members are called 'shills'. And they are who the Chairman/CEO hides behind when shit hits the fan with the always chuckling "but the board approved it' defense.



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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,057
    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    For political influence. I mean, if Biden Jr. had been a captain of [other] industry or otherwise important, then sure, public companies appoint people like that all the time. For sure, he didn't have to be an expert or PhD in whatever energy or mining or whatever it is that company does. Boards have directors from academia who've never worked in real life outside of the academy. I've dealt with them. The ENRON board had a guy from Yale who testified that he didn't know the business and just flew into Houston on a company plane for a nice lunch and dinner and some board comaraderie and listened to a bunch of shit he didn't understand and left. There's less of that now (precisely because of ENRON), but still ....

    With that said, Biden Jr.'s only real quals were his government connections. But even that isn't in and of itself that outlandish. Usually it's the person themselves who have the connection, ie, Biden Sr. In this case, it's the son.

    So, in any context in which there is suspicion of monkey business between the company, a government and the US government, sure, it's ripe for questioning. But it's also fair to say, you don't need to be a specifically-impressive person to get on a board. There are a lot of board members out there who can't find their asses w/o someone helping them.
    What’s the number of crack heads on BODs?
    I would hope very low. Did the company know that before hand? Don't know. Would it have mattered. Don't know that either. I mean, there are crack heads, like the ones I walk over and around in Seattle every day, and there are rich boys who do shit in private. One of the beauties of having wealth, earned or otherwise, is that you can be a complete degenerate addict and still clean up and look pretty because the $$ doesn't run out which means you still have a roof over your head, food in your belly and a shower. And access to rehab.

    So while not exactly a frequent occurrence, I'm sure there are directors on PC boards who have skeletons in their closets. Having means ... means you can hid your shit much more effectively than an average person.

    I'm not trying to argue this point. I have little to no doubt that access to the Veep was the reason he was appointed. What came of that it another matter. Being the son of either wealthy or otherwise powerful people has its perks. We knew that already.

    My only point is that it's not shocking that a guy like Biden would be appointed to a board of directors even though he's not a super star anything. But of course it's open for scrutiny. It's just that the scrutiny doesn't begin and end with his lack of experience in the relevant industry or other lack of business qualifications.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    O'Keefed screwed up his courage enough to lightly rap Hunter on the knuckles and concede that he was trading on his dad's name. But why would Burisma hire him in the first place? What were they getting out of the deal? We know what Hunter was getting, but what benefit was Burisma getting from hiring Hunter?

    And spare me the GDS cock suck that they were getting a highly qualified lawyer who was well qualified to overlook high level contracts and business negotiations.

    For political influence. I mean, if Biden Jr. had been a captain of [other] industry or otherwise important, then sure, public companies appoint people like that all the time. For sure, he didn't have to be an expert or PhD in whatever energy or mining or whatever it is that company does. Boards have directors from academia who've never worked in real life outside of the academy. I've dealt with them. The ENRON board had a guy from Yale who testified that he didn't know the business and just flew into Houston on a company plane for a nice lunch and dinner and some board comaraderie and listened to a bunch of shit he didn't understand and left. There's less of that now (precisely because of ENRON), but still ....

    With that said, Biden Jr.'s only real quals were his government connections. But even that isn't in and of itself that outlandish. Usually it's the person themselves who have the connection, ie, Biden Sr. In this case, it's the son.

    So, in any context in which there is suspicion of monkey business between the company, a government and the US government, sure, it's ripe for questioning. But it's also fair to say, you don't need to be a specifically-impressive person to get on a board. There are a lot of board members out there who can't find their asses w/o someone helping them.
    What’s the number of crack heads on BODs?
    How many boards did Bush Jr serve on? I'm sure he didn't trade on his dad's name at all.
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  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    WestlinnDuck said:

    It was common knowledge that Hunter was kicked out of the military for coke use. It was also common knowledge that was a Biden is bought he stays bought.

    Took less than a 1000 posts here before it became common knowledge you're an idiot.

    Holy shit!!!! Hunter Biden did coke?! Joe Biden should go to jail for treason!
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,591 Standard Supporter
    Big difference between doing coke and being a cokehead. Things you should know, but leftards thrive on intentional ignorance.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
    Especially knowing grandpa hairy legs used quid pro quo to end the investigation into their corruption. Well son a a bitch...
    You actually need evidence that his objective was ending the investigation. Without false equivalents, you gals would have any equivalents.
    Demanding the investigation end is kind of a tell

    For someone who has imagined Trump's guilt for four years your inability to see real evidence is hilarious
    If that was the demand you’d have a great point. It wasn’t so as usual you don’t
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Big difference between doing coke and being a cokehead. Things you should know, but leftards thrive on intentional ignorance.

    Bush doing coke is ok. Hunter doing coke, we must impeach Biden. Lol
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,591 Standard Supporter
    Bush stopped doing coke. Cokeheads like Hunter don't. Bush impregnate any strippers and lie about it? One is not like the other. A weak lame ass moral equivalency argument.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Bush stopped doing coke. Cokeheads like Hunter don't. Bush impregnate any strippers and lie about it? One is not like the other. A weak lame ass moral equivalency argument.

    Now. Right now. Is where you care about someone lying? A stripper is not ok to lie about. But a porn star.... Can lie about that and pay her off. And lie about that too.

    El oh fucking El.. can't wait to see what you come up to justify that.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    HHusky said:

    MikeDamone said:

    Hired for his name and connections to the government through his family that he would use to influence policy to help Burisma. It’s not that hard

    Sounds like Burisma got screwed then.
    Especially knowing grandpa hairy legs used quid pro quo to end the investigation into their corruption. Well son a a bitch...
    You actually need evidence that his objective was ending the investigation. Without false equivalents, you gals would have any equivalents.
    Demanding the investigation end is kind of a tell

    For someone who has imagined Trump's guilt for four years your inability to see real evidence is hilarious
    If that was the demand you’d have a great point. It wasn’t so as usual you don’t
    We have a taped confession

    How pathological of a liar are you?
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