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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter
    Didn’t watch the game because I forgot it was on. From the box score, McDaniel’s laid and dud and fouled out in 14 min. That dude needs to get it together. I didn’t expect a BTP level stud but fuck.

    Bey and Wright played big minutes and didn’t do shit on offense. Those two absolutely kill us. A reliable 10 PPG guy instead of those two would make us so much better.

    I doubt it matters, but Battle is supposedly a good shooter. Give him minutes if he can space the floor for Stewart.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Didn’t watch the game because I forgot it was on. From the box score, McDaniel’s laid and dud and fouled out in 14 min. That dude needs to get it together. I didn’t expect a BTP level stud but fuck.

    Bey and Wright played big minutes and didn’t do shit on offense. Those two absolutely kill us. A reliable 10 PPG guy instead of those two would make us so much better.

    I doubt it matters, but Battle is supposedly a good shooter. Give him minutes if he can space the floor for Stewart.

    McDaniels picked up two fouls early in the first half, went to the bench, came back in towards the end of the half, picked up his third, went to the bench, then picked up a T from the bench for throwing a ball that came to him at a UCLA player.

    He had four fouls before half and fouled out in the first four minutes of the second half.

    I don't think I've ever seen a player foul out with 16 minutes left.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    MelloDawg said:

    McDaniels is the laziest good player we’ve had in years

    He makes me long for the halcyon days of Tony Wroten.

    I hated Tony Wroten.
    McDaniels is more frustrating than Wroten. Wroten was too cocky and thought he was amazing when he couldn’t shoot at all and played out of control. He still had some really big games.

    McDaniels coasts thru games and thinks he has one of those effortless games like B Roy or Durant. He doesn’t. Both McDaniels and Wroten were coddled AAU babies.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325


    dnc said:

    MelloDawg said:

    McDaniels is the laziest good player we’ve had in years

    He makes me long for the halcyon days of Tony Wroten.

    I hated Tony Wroten.
    McDaniels is more frustrating than Wroten. Wroten was too cocky and thought he was amazing when he couldn’t shoot at all and played out of control. He still had some really big games.

    McDaniels coasts thru games and thinks he has one of those effortless games like B Roy or Durant. He doesn’t. Both McDaniels and Wroten were coddled AAU babies.
    Wroten had a shitty attitude and a massive hole in his game. But at least he had game changing athleticism and handles and could impact every single possession. McDaniels has more offensive talent on paper but if he can’t ever put it all together who gives a fuck.

    I’d rather have Wroten right now.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter


    dnc said:

    MelloDawg said:

    McDaniels is the laziest good player we’ve had in years

    He makes me long for the halcyon days of Tony Wroten.

    I hated Tony Wroten.
    McDaniels is more frustrating than Wroten. Wroten was too cocky and thought he was amazing when he couldn’t shoot at all and played out of control. He still had some really big games.

    McDaniels coasts thru games and thinks he has one of those effortless games like B Roy or Durant. He doesn’t. Both McDaniels and Wroten were coddled AAU babies.
    Wroten had a shitty attitude and a massive hole in his game. But at least he had game changing athleticism and handles and could impact every single possession. McDaniels has more offensive talent on paper but if he can’t ever put it all together who gives a fuck.

    I’d rather have Wroten right now.
    They suck in different ways. The only similarity is that they both turn it over way too often.

    I would rather have Wroten too.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Almost everything I said after the first couple of games and was downvoted for has held correct....

    the zone wasn’t working in a large part because McDaniels takes plays off and wright is dumb. So we play shitty switch man to cover for shitty defense. The suffocating defensive identity is gone, it’s now a gimmick

    Bey is a JAG

    Green isn’t great, he is fine. He is Gaddy on a better team.

    Naz still a spaz; an amazing athlete that barely knows how to play basketball. (Great 3 right before losing the game though)

    Stewart is amazing but still has to carry the team on both sides of the court.

    The offense looks like Pete is the offensive consultant and there is never any space on the floor. It’s so broken.

    The idea of your team drastically improving more during the season than your opponents is doog mythos.

    Fuck McDaniels who has obviously been coasting (or he just sucks). Fuck Hop who completely sacrificed next year for this years mediocre this year.

  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,576
    A world could exist where we would have been better off if McDaniels had chosen Kentucky. He looks like he doesnt want to be playing basketball and shows it by his play. I think theres a small chance he quits the team before the end of the season.

    As I remember, Oregon had a guy a few years ago who was a 5* all american who had the same issues and either quit or got kicked off the team halfway through the season and they were better off for it.

    As a final note, @btp is a fucking idiot
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    A world could exist where we would have been better off if McDaniels had chosen Kentucky. He looks like he doesnt want to be playing basketball and shows it by his play. I think theres a small chance he quits the team before the end of the season.

    As I remember, Oregon had a guy a few years ago who was a 5* all american who had the same issues and either quit or got kicked off the team halfway through the season and they were better off for it.

    As a final note, @btp is a fucking idiot

    I think he'll pull it together somewhat, and I definitely don't think we are better without him.

    We win that game yesterday if he doesn't foul out.

    But man he is frustrating to watch most games.