Do you care about democracy?
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
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I think most people, including me, do care about it. However, most sane people also realize that there was no evidence that Obama or Hillary were involved and no one spied on Trump's campaign. Both assertions your news media pumped for 3 years and is now trying to defend.UW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo -
The left does notUW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it
Disgusting
Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes
The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now
Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened
So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President
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Your news source is lying to you Race.RaceBannon said:
The left does notUW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it
Disgusting
Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes
The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now
Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened
So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President -
Christianity Today is my news sourceUW_Doog_Bot said:
Your news source is lying to you Race.RaceBannon said:
The left does notUW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it
Disgusting
Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes
The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now
Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened
So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President -
But really, you mean the people that talk about ending the electoral college, packing the supreme court to over rule the constitution, setting restrictions on the BOR, etc. don't care about Democracy?!?!RaceBannon said:
The left does notUW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it
Disgusting
Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes
The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now
Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened
So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President -
Democracy is the oppression of the smallest minority, the individual. That’s why we don’t have it.
For some reason the left thinks a farmer who owns 1000 acres and produces food for millions of people shouldn’t be heard because they don’t live in a tightly packed metropolitan area with people who own no property and produce poverty. -
And when they are doing all of that they cry about how Trump is undermining our institutions, norms and democracy.UW_Doog_Bot said:
But really, you mean the people that talk about ending the electoral college, packing the supreme court to over rule the constitution, setting restrictions on the BOR, etc. don't care about Democracy?!?!RaceBannon said:
The left does notUW_Doog_Bot said:"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"
https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it
Disgusting
Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes
The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now
Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened
So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President -
We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know.
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Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.
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It's nice to see that even some people on the Left have enough integrity and objectivity to see past the immediate implications of this.Southerndawg said:Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.
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Who.gif?UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's nice to see that even some people on the Left have enough integrity and objectivity to see past the immediate implications of this.Southerndawg said:Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.
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Glenn Greenwald, the author of this article, is definitely "on the left".PurpleThrobber said:
Who.gif?UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's nice to see that even some people on the Left have enough integrity and objectivity to see past the immediate implications of this.Southerndawg said:Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.
Definitely no one in the tug. -
The Throbber beat me to it. We're not a democracy and the Constitution, for how awesome it is, leans toward the elite maintaining power. Same as it's ever been(Alabama Football).PurpleThrobber said:We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know. -
Way to NOT address the issue of the FBI owl.HustlinOwl said:
The Throbber beat me to it. We're not a democracy and the Constitution, for how awesome it is, leans toward the elite maintaining power. Same as it's ever been(Alabama Football).PurpleThrobber said:We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know. -
The founders recognize that a government is necessary and that those in government would be tempted to overstep their mandates. The Constitution is intended to limit that overreach.HustlinOwl said:
The Throbber beat me to it. We're not a democracy and the Constitution, for how awesome it is, leans toward the elite maintaining power. Same as it's ever been(Alabama Football).PurpleThrobber said:We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know.
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Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Hate to tell you this. But you won't overthrow the government with guns. I get that's a rallying cry for the simple minded. But in a representative republic, you overthrow the government at the ballot box. And you got your wish with Trump. Who clearly never oversteps his constitutional authority and drained the swamp.USMChawk said:
The founders recognize that a government is necessary and that those in government would be tempted to overstep their mandates. The Constitution is intended to limit that overreach.HustlinOwl said:
The Throbber beat me to it. We're not a democracy and the Constitution, for how awesome it is, leans toward the elite maintaining power. Same as it's ever been(Alabama Football).PurpleThrobber said:We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know. -
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Exactly. The constitution doesn't grant rights, it limits government for stepping on rights people have for just being a human.USMChawk said:
The founders recognize that a government is necessary and that those in government would be tempted to overstep their mandates. The Constitution is intended to limit that overreach.HustlinOwl said:
The Throbber beat me to it. We're not a democracy and the Constitution, for how awesome it is, leans toward the elite maintaining power. Same as it's ever been(Alabama Football).PurpleThrobber said:We're (?) not a democracy.
Never have been.
Basic civics, you know. -
Constitutional illiterate heard from.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Is your Google broken?Sledog said:
Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-09/duplicate-voter-records-audit-california-motor-voter-system -
He'll no they won't. It would do nothing but cost them votes.Sledog said:
Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Why does it matter? If you don't live in Florida, Pennsylvania, and a few other states your vote is meaningless. Just like our forefathers intended right?Sledog said:
Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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First correct thing you have posted in months dodo. I have no interest in your life. You leftards have a great interest in mine. Scratch a leftist find a fascist
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My vote didn't matter in Kalifornia. Illegals were part of that problem.HustlinOwl said:
Why does it matter? If you don't live in Florida, Pennsylvania, and a few other states your vote is meaningless. Just like our forefathers intended right?Sledog said:
Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
I don't like my vote being cancelled by someone that isn't supposed to be voting and shouldn't even be in the country.
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I don't like my vote being canceled that wants more free sh*t from those who are paying way more than their share.
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This is extra dumb.HustlinOwl said:
Why does it matter? If you don't live in Florida, Pennsylvania, and a few other states your vote is meaningless. Just like our forefathers intended right?Sledog said:
Why do you think Democrat controlled states won't audit their voting rolls? Kali automatically registered them when they get illegal drivers niceness unless they opt out. In fact they designed the computer system so it does not identify illegals at all so they can't be discriminated against.HustlinOwl said:
Your belief that millions of illegals are voting is proof you shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.Sledog said:
Then ends justify the means crowd has to be stomped down. Hopefully by elections and not other means. But two can play the ends justify the means game. Preventing the millions of illegals voting is step one.UW_Doog_Bot said:Jfc we use democracy as short hand for constitutional representative republic. Now tell me how that changes the fact that the FBI is subverting the democratic process by spying on opposition parties. The *crickets from the CDBros is notable in this thread.
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Still a whole lotta cdbros whistling past the fact that a president, the fbi, and a party nominee did their best to conspire against a free and fair election process. Nothing to see here! Impeachment for abuse of power!
