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UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,650 Founders Club
"If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"

https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    "If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"

    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo

    I think most people, including me, do care about it. However, most sane people also realize that there was no evidence that Obama or Hillary were involved and no one spied on Trump's campaign. Both assertions your news media pumped for 3 years and is now trying to defend.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,650 Founders Club

    "If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"

    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo

    The left does not

    As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it

    Disgusting

    Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes

    The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now

    Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened

    So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President

    Your news source is lying to you Race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,050 Founders Club

    "If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"

    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo

    The left does not

    As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it

    Disgusting

    Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes

    The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now

    Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened

    So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President

    Your news source is lying to you Race.
    Christianity Today is my news source
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    "If it does not bother you to learn that the FBI repeatedly and deliberately deceived the FISA court into granting it permission to spy on a U.S. citizen in the middle of a presidential campaign, then it is virtually certain that you are either someone with no principles, someone who cares only about partisan advantage and nothing about basic civil liberties and the rule of law, or both. There is simply no way for anyone of good faith to read this IG Report and reach any conclusion other than that this is yet another instance of the FBI abusing its power in severe ways to subvert and undermine U.S. democracy. If you don’t care about that, what do you care about?"

    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/?fbclid=IwAR09_yeI_qVd1pU7oi_7xvyW9tJtDLjE4fxDDGBNjRXCcMmO49o7PqZNkjo

    The left does not

    As has been proven once again by this blatant abuse of power that alleged liberals like the bear applaud because their team did it

    Disgusting

    Its the same fucking FBI that spied on MLK and called him a Russian agent. The playbook never changes

    The only thing that has changed is the leftists use it for their ends now

    Stoke and his bitch didn't decide to do this on their own and Comey wasn't the top. The lack of any curiosity speaks volumes after the lefties spent three years lying and denying it happened

    So tell me who is really helping Putin? According to the democrats own witness it is the democrats by sowing distrust in our election and our President

    But really, you mean the people that talk about ending the electoral college, packing the supreme court to over rule the constitution, setting restrictions on the BOR, etc. don't care about Democracy?!?!
    And when they are doing all of that they cry about how Trump is undermining our institutions, norms and democracy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,809 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2019
    We're (?) not a democracy.

    Never have been.

    Basic civics, you know.


  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club
    Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,650 Founders Club

    Sounds like some of us care for our Republic and the rule of law. Refreshing.

    It's nice to see that even some people on the Left have enough integrity and objectivity to see past the immediate implications of this.