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But Cristoballz is the best coach in the PAC-12 right now.

He’s brought the big dick mentality to the West Coast in recruiting and coaching.

He completely outcoached a solid coach in Whittingham and his staff by attacking the strength of their D right up the middle. They attacked, and he had them ready scheme-wise and energy wise. You don’t think he used the national media looking past Whoregon and solely focusing on Utah’s CFP chances as motivation for his team?

His teams play with swag and energy that leave me envious of their brashness, cause it looks like they’re having fun. They embody their coach.

The PAC-12 is a joke of a league compared to the Big 10 and SEC as evidenced by that Martin Stadium-esque turnout last night in Levi’s Stadium. You could hear it in Herbstreit’s and Fowler’s voices, as they didn’t have to “get up” for the moment.

I don’t like Cristoballz the person, but I like the mentality he’s brought to a passive-minded gentlemen’s conference.

I think Lake has that in him, too, and I’m looking forward to the best rivalry in the conference playing out on the field and recruiting trails.

It sucks to see the Yucks go to the Grandaddy of Them All, but they deserve it.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,205 Founders Club

    He just won the conference so unpopular or not, it just is.

    Meanwhilst, we* had a coach quit on us and we hired a coach with no HC experience.

    and we never bothered to interview anybody else like Urban
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,207 Founders Club
    Must kill @oregonblitzkrieg to have to win the PAC this way.
  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533



    CristoballZ raped us this year. Because he's just like 'okay, while these guys are debating whether the sky is blue, i'm going to just fucking do what I should.

    Thought a lot about that last night while watching Thibodeaux and Wright tear it the fuck up.
  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333

    Look at what Ed O, Kirby and Dabo have done... you get these guys in a room with Mario and you think you have a fucking particle physicist convention? No.

    They are just like - 'uh, we need the best players; then we need to physically dominate teams; I need to get coaches who maximize talent... not just let my friends sit around on this staff and talk about how it's not fair our players can't execute our beautiful schemes.'

    Mario got rid of Leavitt and won the fucking Pac-12 because IT'S NOT FUCKING COMPLICATED.

    So does Jimmy let Bob and Bush hang around because it's unfair they were saddled with Manu/Wellington and seniors who forgot how to catch?
  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533

    He just won the conference so unpopular or not, it just is.

    Meanwhilst, we* had a coach quit on us and we hired a coach with no HC experience.

    Yeah but if Cristoballz can do it, so can Jimmy. As Dennis said, it’s not complicated.

    I’m just impressed by Whoregon’s pre- and in-game coaching. They outschemed us (not hard) in the second half and did the same to Utah all night long. And shit, for the first time watching football, they actually make me think the Pistol is an effective strategy. RBs hit the holes with so much speed.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Counterpoint: Whittingham is NOT a solid coach. You’re right about our conference being a joke, though.

    God help us if Jimmy tanks and Jen keeps him around long enough to blow up the program again.
  • BroadcastingDawg
    BroadcastingDawg Member Posts: 1,459
    edited December 2019
    I'm not convinced. We'll see how good Oregon is next year when they have to replace their supposed all-world QB, 4/5th's of their O-line, their best tight end, 3 starting linebackers, and potentially more players on their D if they decide to leave early.

    Cristobal inherited a very experienced roster... he hasn't proven he can build anything yet.

    The Pac-12 was fucking awful this year and Oregon could only beat UW by 4 and WSU by 3... and lost to a crappy ASU team when everything was on the line. You think Clemson, Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, Oklahoma lose to fkn ASU? Please.

    And don't get me started on Utah... their non-co sucks and their best games played were a loss to USC and scratching by UW. Overrated all year... any other year where the Pac 12 doesn't blow ass this Utah squad is a 7-8 win team.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    He just won the conference so unpopular or not, it just is.

    Meanwhilst, we* had a coach quit on us and we hired a coach with no HC experience.

    Cristobal basically has the most obvious stance possible but the brain trust around our program can't fucking agree that the color red is red.

    IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE TALENT AND AN ALPHA MENTALITY AND HAVE SCHMES THAT MAXIMIZE PLAYER TALENT?!?!?

    Hmmm... :::::::sound of a thousand Doogs trying to figure out how to say going 7-5 in year 6 is actually a triumph::::::
    We have a brain trust? On twitter, right?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    They won the Pac, but if you think our conference champion is on the same tier as the best teams down south you are probably a mouth breathing doog retard as well.
  • BroadcastingDawg
    BroadcastingDawg Member Posts: 1,459
    edited December 2019

    I'm not convinced. We'll see how good Oregon is next year when they have to replace their supposed all-world QB, 4/5th's of their O-line, their best tight end, 3 starting linebackers, and potentially more players on their D if they decide to leave early.

    Cristobal inherited a very experienced roster... he hasn't proven he can build anything yet.

    The Pac-12 was fucking awful this year and Oregon could only beat UW by 4 and WSU by 3... and lost to a crappy ASU team when everything was on the line. You think Clemson, Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, Oklahoma lose to fkn ASU? Please.

    And don't get me started on Utah... their non-co sucks and their best games played were a loss to USC and scratching by UW. Overrated all year... any other year where the Pac 12 doesn't blow ass this Utah squad is a 7-8 win team.

    Not convinced as in "they didn't win the Pac-12 this year" or what?
    Does it matter?

    Everyone knows the Pac 12 sucks this year. Oregon was the best team in what's looking like the 4th best conference. Big whoop.

    Utah and Oregon aren't top teams in the country, not even close, so why does it matter?

    Cristobal had the most experienced team in a bad conference... same with Utah. I'm not impressed at all by the way either got it done.

    If Cristobal is a great coach, he should have beaten Auburn. And don't give me this "Alabama lost to Auburn" crap... Bama didn't have Tua.
  • Crow_T_Robot
    Crow_T_Robot Member Posts: 58
    PurpleJ said:

    They won the Pac, but if you think our conference champion is on the same tier as the best teams down south you are probably a mouth breathing doog retard as well.

    What kind of fucking idiot would say that? Oregon is about the 4th best team in the SEC. But the SEC is so far ahead of everyone else it doesn't matter that much.

    SEC: LSU, UGA, Bama and Auburn -> all better than Oregon. UF - maybe.
    B1G: Ohio State is better. Wiscy and Penn State, debatable? Iowa, probably not.
    BXII: Okie is better. No one else is.
    ACC: Climpsun is better. No one else is.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    I'm not convinced. We'll see how good Oregon is next year when they have to replace their supposed all-world QB, 4/5th's of their O-line, their best tight end, 3 starting linebackers, and potentially more players on their D if they decide to leave early.

    Cristobal inherited a very experienced roster... he hasn't proven he can build anything yet.

    The Pac-12 was fucking awful this year and Oregon could only beat UW by 4 and WSU by 3... and lost to a crappy ASU team when everything was on the line. You think Clemson, Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, Oklahoma lose to fkn ASU? Please.

    And don't get me started on Utah... their non-co sucks and their best games played were a loss to USC and scratching by UW. Overrated all year... any other year where the Pac 12 doesn't blow ass this Utah squad is a 7-8 win team.

    Not convinced as in "they didn't win the Pac-12 this year" or what?
    Does it matter?

    Everyone knows the Pac 12 sucks this year. Oregon was the best team in what's looking like the 4th best conference. Big whoop.

    Utah and Oregon aren't top teams in the country, not even close, so why does it matter?
    And you could say the same about our two conference winners.

    People like Crow deyoung were acting we would become the second coming of Clemson as recently as September of this year.
  • dooginthehall
    dooginthehall Member Posts: 182

    I'm not convinced. We'll see how good Oregon is next year when they have to replace their supposed all-world QB, 4/5th's of their O-line, their best tight end, 3 starting linebackers, and potentially more players on their D if they decide to leave early.

    Cristobal inherited a very experienced roster... he hasn't proven he can build anything yet.

    The Pac-12 was fucking awful this year and Oregon could only beat UW by 4 and WSU by 3... and lost to a crappy ASU team when everything was on the line. You think Clemson, Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, Oklahoma lose to fkn ASU? Please.

    And don't get me started on Utah... their non-co sucks and their best games played were a loss to USC and scratching by UW. Overrated all year... any other year where the Pac 12 doesn't blow ass this Utah squad is a 7-8 win team.

    Hi Chris!


  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,207 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    They won the Pac, but if you think our conference champion is on the same tier as the best teams down south you are probably a mouth breathing doog retard as well.

    We are shit against SEC until we aren’t. It’s just too bad we can’t get a home and home with those teams though.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777
    Beno4Life said:

    He just won the conference so unpopular or not, it just is.

    Meanwhilst, we* had a coach quit on us and we hired a coach with no HC experience.

    Yeah but if Cristoballz can do it, so can Jimmy. As Dennis said, it’s not complicated.

    I’m just impressed by Whoregon’s pre- and in-game coaching. They outschemed us (not hard) in the second half and did the same to Utah all night long. And shit, for the first time watching football, they actually make me think the Pistol is an effective strategy. RBs hit the holes with so much speed.
    All Oregon did was continue to run the ball against UW and not let Herbert fuck it up which he was well on his way to doing. Because they have RBs who can hit the hole and get yards consistently it worked out nicely. This is why I would take Verdell over Ahmed. Just get to the right place quickly and get the yards. We missed that trait in 2019.

    Their only scheme was to continue to pound the rock with decent RBs against our historically bad LBs and uncompetitive team psyche.

    Cristobal is a lame coach but he's interested in winning football games and works towards that end, which our staff has not done recently.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited December 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    They won the Pac, but if you think our conference champion is on the same tier as the best teams down south you are probably a mouth breathing doog retard as well.

    What kind of fucking idiot would say that? Oregon is about the 4th best team in the SEC. But the SEC is so far ahead of everyone else it doesn't matter that much.

    SEC: LSU, UGA, Bama and Auburn -> all better than Oregon. UF - maybe.
    B1G: Ohio State is better. Wiscy and Penn State, debatable? Iowa, probably not.
    BXII: Okie is better. No one else is.
    ACC: Climpsun is better. No one else is.
    Everything matters!

    And you kind of did just imply that when you mentioned them in the same sentence as if they were at all comparable.
  • BroadcastingDawg
    BroadcastingDawg Member Posts: 1,459
    edited December 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    They won the Pac, but if you think our conference champion is on the same tier as the best teams down south you are probably a mouth breathing doog retard as well.

    What kind of fucking idiot would say that? Oregon is about the 4th best team in the SEC. But the SEC is so far ahead of everyone else it doesn't matter that much.

    SEC: LSU, UGA, Bama and Auburn -> all better than Oregon. UF - maybe.
    B1G: Ohio State is better. Wiscy and Penn State, debatable? Iowa, probably not.
    BXII: Okie is better. No one else is.
    ACC: Climpsun is better. No one else is.
    LSU, UGA, Bama, Auburn, UF, Ohio St, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn St, Oklahoma, Baylor, Clemson are all better teams than Oregon.

    Tell me what has been particularly impressive about Oregon?

    Oh they beat an overrated Utah squad... UW and WSU by a combined 7 pts... nice Ducks! Way to go!
  • Crow_T_Robot
    Crow_T_Robot Member Posts: 58

    Beno4Life said:

    He just won the conference so unpopular or not, it just is.

    Meanwhilst, we* had a coach quit on us and we hired a coach with no HC experience.

    Yeah but if Cristoballz can do it, so can Jimmy. As Dennis said, it’s not complicated.

    I’m just impressed by Whoregon’s pre- and in-game coaching. They outschemed us (not hard) in the second half and did the same to Utah all night long. And shit, for the first time watching football, they actually make me think the Pistol is an effective strategy. RBs hit the holes with so much speed.
    All Oregon did was continue to run the ball against UW and not let Herbert fuck it up which he was well on his way to doing. Because they have RBs who can hit the hole and get yards consistently it worked out nicely. This is why I would take Verdell over Ahmed. Just get to the right place quickly and get the yards. We missed that trait in 2019.

    Their only scheme was to continue to pound the rock with decent RBs against our historically bad LBs and uncompetitive team psyche.

    Cristobal is a lame coach but he's interested in winning football games and works towards that end, which our staff has not done recently.
    Watching Oregon is enjoyable because their offensive players actually initiate contact and don't immediately fall down. I was like 'oh, wow, that's what it looks like for players to play hard, not be timid and trying to remember their 83 step progression on this play, and feel like they can inflict some pain and physically dominate the other team.'

    I rooted for them all night. Utah are feeegs
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited December 2019
    Minnesota, Michigan, Uf, Wiconsin, and Baylor? Die doog