If Hamdan is retained
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You've thought all season Pete would bring back all the coaches. Do you still feel that way?
There is no one who can't see the offense is BROKE including him.
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I think after last night there is literally no chance the staff stays intact. Wouldn't surprise me if he did retain but there is just no way he can.godawgst said:You've thought all season Pete would bring back all the coaches. Do you still feel that way?
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How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that. -
I agree. You still have to get rid of Hamdan. I really don’t care if any offensive coaches are retained. Complete control has to be given to the new guy. Pete can be CEO of the program.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
The Kwat-Lake stuff is different. I think Kwat still controls the front 7 and Lake controls the secondary. Lake just calls the plays. That should be looked into and changed if needed. -
I'm not out here trying to say Hamdan is good.
But blaming anything on Hamdan utterly misses the point. -
speaking of donors... those who donate know what's going on in the Wam.
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Ummmmmmm, Tedford was a “Consultant,” don’t you remember.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
Over half the dipshit doogs out there kept shrieking about his lack of influence. . . Until he left. -
This is correct. Would you be okay with firing Pete at the end of the year?TTJ said:I'm not out here trying to say Hamdan is good.
But blaming anything on Hamdan utterly misses the point. -
It will be different this time. Pete can change.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree. You still have to get rid of Hamdan. I really don’t care if any offensive coaches are retained. Complete control has to be given to the new guy. Pete can be CEO of the program.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
The Kwat-Lake stuff is different. I think Kwat still controls the front 7 and Lake controls the secondary. Lake just calls the plays. That should be looked into and changed if needed.
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Gotta be careful blowing that first hot rail of meth.PurpleJ said:
It will be different this time. Pete can change.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree. You still have to get rid of Hamdan. I really don’t care if any offensive coaches are retained. Complete control has to be given to the new guy. Pete can be CEO of the program.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
The Kwat-Lake stuff is different. I think Kwat still controls the front 7 and Lake controls the secondary. Lake just calls the plays. That should be looked into and changed if needed. -
Just letting it play out J. Don’t really feel like wasting a bunch of time posting repeatedly that Pete should be fired when it will never happen.PurpleJ said:
It will be different this time. Pete can change.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree. You still have to get rid of Hamdan. I really don’t care if any offensive coaches are retained. Complete control has to be given to the new guy. Pete can be CEO of the program.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
The Kwat-Lake stuff is different. I think Kwat still controls the front 7 and Lake controls the secondary. Lake just calls the plays. That should be looked into and changed if needed.
I’ll put it this way, Pete has a better chance of winning big at UW than Chip does at UCLA. -
Chip has more conference wins this year.RoadDawg55 said:
Just letting it play out J. Don’t really feel like wasting a bunch of time posting repeatedly that Pete should be fired when it will never happen.PurpleJ said:
It will be different this time. Pete can change.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree. You still have to get rid of Hamdan. I really don’t care if any offensive coaches are retained. Complete control has to be given to the new guy. Pete can be CEO of the program.PurpleJ said:How people don’t understand that it’s Pete’s offense is beyond me. Same exact faggy complicated gadget finesse bullshit since he got here. Tedford made it good when he was here. That’s it.
Pete also fired his proven DC to placate a position coach, so there’s that.
The Kwat-Lake stuff is different. I think Kwat still controls the front 7 and Lake controls the secondary. Lake just calls the plays. That should be looked into and changed if needed.
I’ll put it this way, Pete has a better chance of winning big at UW than Chip does at UCLA. -
It's not like CP is going anywhere. I'm not going to waste time typing about Rural Meyer or whatever. He probably hit his peak, and it was a pretty good peak, in 2016. Unless and until he is willing to adapt and change, it's going to be an average to pretty good program, but it won't be at the LSU/Bammer/Clemson/THE OSU level. He can tinker with assistants and scheme and probably win the Pac 12 again, but he's stuck on the OKG bullshit and it's keeping the program down. Right now he's clearly lost this group, similar to how Carroll lost the '17 Seahawks. So there needs to be a rehaul over the offseason. Weed out the malcontents and fix the schematic bullshit.
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The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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His success at Boise wasn’t with this OKG bullshit. He had Titus Young and a bunch of Juco guys filling in gaps. I remember them being one of leaders in player arrests. It is much easier to get arrested in a small town like Boise, but still.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's not like CP is going anywhere. I'm not going to waste time typing about Rural Meyer or whatever. He probably hit his peak, and it was a pretty good peak, in 2016. Unless and until he is willing to adapt and change, it's going to be an average to pretty good program, but it won't be at the LSU/Bammer/Clemson/THE OSU level. He can tinker with assistants and scheme and probably win the Pac 12 again, but he's stuck on the OKG bullshit and it's keeping the program down. Right now he's clearly lost this group, similar to how Carroll lost the '17 Seahawks. So there needs to be a rehaul over the offseason. Weed out the malcontents and fix the schematic bullshit.
At UW, he can recruit the guys with the temperament he likes, but it’s not working. Get the best players, get some dirtbags, and just fucking win. I think it’s more of a structural problem than the talent itself, but both need to improve. -
It doesnt matter who the yes men are in these positions. Its Pete.
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OreDawg said:
The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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I believe Tedford is making about $1.8M at Fresno State...he is not coming back to us.whuggy said:OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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I wasn't clear. It won't be Tedford but another consultant. Just a theory. I know nothing.Meek said:
I believe Tedford is making about $1.8M at Fresno State...he is not coming back to us.whuggy said:OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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What does any of this have to do with Hamden?That o line is pussy soft.jecornel said:Which now would be astonishing. Jen Cohen will start to experience donor pressure.
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Pete's offense sucks but Hamden makes it look worse. His play selection is mind boggling so often. The guy can't call a game to save his life. A good OC could make lemonade out of lemons. Hamden can't figure out how to make lemon koolaid
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IIRC, Hamdan was the WR Coach in 2016 and those fuckers were lights out, even with noodle arm throwing.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
It is one of two things: good coaches go to die as OC of Pete’s offense, or Hamdan sucks and is in way over his head.
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How about Dennis Ericksonwhuggy said:
I wasn't clear. It won't be Tedford but another consultant. Just a theory. I know nothing.Meek said:
I believe Tedford is making about $1.8M at Fresno State...he is not coming back to us.whuggy said:OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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What's Mike Price up to?MontlakeBridgeTroll said:
How about Dennis Ericksonwhuggy said:
I wasn't clear. It won't be Tedford but another consultant. Just a theory. I know nothing.Meek said:
I believe Tedford is making about $1.8M at Fresno State...he is not coming back to us.whuggy said:OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
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Hamadan is paid 700KMeek said:
I believe Tedford is making about $1.8M at Fresno State...he is not coming back to us.whuggy said:OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
I won't be the least bit shocked if Pete brings in a "consultant" for Hamdan. Tedford but not Tedford Part II.OreDawg said:The problem isn’t Hamadan per say, pete is the problem. However, in order to fix the problem Hamadan has to not be the OC next year. I don’t even think Hamadan is completely useless, maybe he could be demoted to QB coach/passing game coordinator, he did well at that in 2016, plus I think he can recruit. But to fix this Pete has to hand over the keys of the offense to an experienced capable OC with their own philosophy. Or he can fuck off back to the mountain west.
Lake is getting 1.1 mil
There is your 1.8
Tedford isnt going to happen anyways, but there is plenty of money to throw around at the problem, If Pete wants to win he should have the mindset that he is going to make someone one of the highest paid OCs in college football and then let them earn it.
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I think this is absolutely correct. There are probably more than this to being an OC but here’s how I see it.BeerThirty said:Pete's offense sucks but Hamden makes it look worse. His play selection is mind boggling so often. The guy can't call a game to save his life. A good OC could make lemonade out of lemons. Hamden can't figure out how to make lemon koolaid
First is the overall system. Pete is in charge of this and gives the left and right limits to Hamdan. Pete’s system is complicated and overly so.
Second is the play calling within the limits set by Pete. Hamdan is absolutely trash at this part of the job. Pete gets blame here for putting a guy in as OC with the shitty system.
Third is adjustment and setting up plays. Hamdan also sucks at this because he kept running on 1st down and never once tried a play action despite Colorado constantly being hung a run blitz on 1st down. -
Pretty sure Hamdan does indeed suck. He’s in the wrong place at the wrong time too. Pete’s offense is terrible. I don’t think Hamdan is the problem or even the biggest one but he still has to go.
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And it only took 5 in-conference losses against mediocre or worse teams for people to wake up?jecornel said:
I think after last night there is literally no chance the staff stays intact. Wouldn't surprise me if he did retain but there is just no way he can.godawgst said:You've thought all season Pete would bring back all the coaches. Do you still feel that way?
There is no one who can't see the offense is BROKE including him.
At this apathetic rate 2030 might be Special. -
LSU changed offensive coordinators and took off. It could be possible here. Sure, it's Pete's system, but Hamden grew up with that system, so it's all he really knows. If Pete is serious, he shitcans Hamden and gets someone to run the offense who isn't from Boise. and he trusts him enough to run his system.
If he's not serious, he brings back Hamden, or pulls in Browning as his new OC. -
LSU still has the same OC in title, but Joe Brady completely revamped the offense.Alexis said:LSU changed offensive coordinators and took off. It could be possible here. Sure, it's Pete's system, but Hamden grew up with that system, so it's all he really knows. If Pete is serious, he shitcans Hamden and gets someone to run the offense who isn't from Boise. and he trusts him enough to run his system.
If he's not serious, he brings back Hamden, or pulls in Browning as his new OC.
