Embarrassing

sonics1993 said:

Yup, I know changes will be coming this offseason but who Pete hires is going to dictate whether this program gets back on track.

Gun to your head right now, who do you think is gone?

Tequilla said:

sonics1993 said:

insinceredawg said:

sonics1993 said:

Yup, I know changes will be coming this offseason but who Pete hires is going to dictate whether this program gets back on track.

Gun to your head right now, who do you think is gone?

Bush gets let go, Jordan is not re-upped and hopefully Bob gets his walking papers as well.

My gut says you need to turn over half this staff

Who would you let go? I wouldn't mind seeing KB go as well which would make four of the ten coaches changing. I'm confident this defensive staff besides Bob will get this defense turned around next year when they finally get adequate linebacker play.

sonics1993 said:

DoubleJDawg said:

The level of brokenness of the program that this season has exposed has called into question (for me, anyway) whether canning a couple of assistants really changes any of the big problems we are seeing

@sonics1993 do you think replacing those assistants you named are enough?

Depends on who we hire, i'm confident in the defense bouncing back next year especially if Molden, Keith and Levi come back. Offensively the talent is there, we just need a system and OC that takes advantage of it.

Sounds like you view Bush as 80-90% of the overall problem in the program right now

I guess it’s just hard for me to put the entirety of our offensive problems on Bush, especially after seeing Jonathan smith seemingly struggle here, too, then go to OSU and light it up.

If he has been the problem all along, I wish peterman would have fired him mid season - keeping him in the post the whole season to then fire him afterward is a bit of a waste of time, and has likely directly led to several losses in the interim. Thus leading us back to an overall question about whether Peterman cares more about winning or optimizing for other things like “stability” and the feelings of his staff.

DoubleJDawg said:

sonics1993 said:

DoubleJDawg said:

The level of brokenness of the program that this season has exposed has called into question (for me, anyway) whether canning a couple of assistants really changes any of the big problems we are seeing

@sonics1993 do you think replacing those assistants you named are enough?

Depends on who we hire, i'm confident in the defense bouncing back next year especially if Molden, Keith and Levi come back. Offensively the talent is there, we just need a system and OC that takes advantage of it.

Sounds like you view Bush as 80-90% of the overall problem in the program right now

I guess it’s just hard for me to put the entirety of our offensive problems on Bush, especially after seeing Jonathan smith seemingly struggle here, too, then go to OSU and light it up.

If he has been the problem all along, I wish peterman would have fired him mid season - keeping him in the post the whole season to then fire him afterward is a bit of a waste of time, and has likely directly led to several losses in the interim. Thus leading us back to an overall question about whether Peterman cares more about winning or optimizing for other things like “stability” and the feelings of his staff.

I never viewed Jonathan as a problem but I agree with you it's not just Bush but he's a terrible play caller and couldn't make a adjustment to save his life. My hope is when Bush gets fired, the new OC hired brings in a new system and Pete makes a philosophical change to his offense which I believe he will.

Baseman said:

Adding insult to injury, the Honks let BTP on the show tonight.

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