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Name anyone in power calling for Open Borders
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What is the argument for abolishing ice
Like these are still functions the govt needs to do.
Is it that it's gotten too much bad pub so they want to rename it?
Is it a warcry to reorganize some departments?
Lol like what kind of hot button issue is that -
That I have no clue on. My guess is to get Fringe Democrats rallying for something. I think it's a silly issue to make a stand on. I only comment because people like Bob lie about the meaning of it.Pitchfork51 said:What is the argument for abolishing ice
Like these are still functions the govt needs to do.
Is it that it's gotten too much bad pub so they want to rename it?
Is it a warcry to reorganize some departments?
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I what is my "lie" about the meaning of it Hondo? Quote it for me.2001400ex said:
That I have no clue on. My guess is to get Fringe Democrats rallying for something. I think it's a silly issue to make a stand on. I only comment because people like Bob lie about the meaning of it. -
Bob I'll type this one last time. Idiot. I'll even type slowly so maybe you'll understand.SFGbob said:
I what is my "lie" about the meaning of it Hondo? Quote it for me.
You see Bob, you read and quote "Bernie wants to break up ICE" thus ending border patrol having open borders. Hell, you even include the quote "reassign to other departments" once or twice, but usually ignore that part of the quote. You know it's there yet still choose to ignore it. And still scream Bernie wants open borders.
That, you see, idiot, is you lying. Idiot. -
Quote where I said that Kunt? So my "lie" is really your lie regarding what I actually said. I said Bernie wanted to dismantle the Border Patrol and ICE and you called that a lie.2001400ex said:
Bob I'll type this one last time. Idiot. I'll even type slowly so maybe you'll understand.
You see Bob, you read and quote "Bernie wants to break up ICE" thus ending border patrol having open borders. Hell, you even include the quote "reassign to other departments" once or twice, but usually ignore that part of the quote. You know it's there yet still choose to ignore it. And still scream Bernie wants open borders.
That, you see, idiot, is you lying. Idiot. -
You have got to be fucking with me right now.SFGbob said:
Quote where I said that Kunt? So my "lie" is really your lie regarding what I actually said. I said Bernie wanted to dismantle the Border Patrol and ICE and you called that a lie. -
Things a pathological liar says.2001400ex said:
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This is in this thread.SFGbob said:
Things a pathological liar says.
Sanders says he would break apart the Homeland Security Department entirely — including Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection — and distribute the responsibilities among the Justice, Treasury and State departments.
But according to Hondo the stupid fucking Kunt this doesn't mean that Bernie is getting rid of the Border Patrol. He is only saying that he is "break[ing] it apart," right Hondo the lying Kunt?
Meanwhile Hondo the lying Kunt quotes nothing and cites nothing in order to claim that you "lied." -
The Border Patrol along with ICE are Federal government agencies Hondo. Bernie has stated he wants to "break them up" and dismantle and get rid of them. You claimed that was a lie. This entire thread, the only people lying have been you and Owl. Go fuck yourself Hondo.
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Yeah you aren't delusional. Not at all.SFGbob said:The Border Patrol along with ICE are Federal government agencies Hondo. Bernie has stated he wants to "break them up" and dismantle and get rid of them. You claimed that was a lie. This entire thread, the only people lying have been you and Owl. Go fuck yourself Hondo.
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White flag.2001400ex said:
Yeah you aren't delusional. Not at all.
You claimed this statement was a lie:
Bernie wants to "dismantle ICE and CBP"
And for 3 days you called a statement of fact a lie. That's what pathological liars do.
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And you've stated he wants open borders (see thread title) and you've stated he wants to end border patrol. Neither if which is true.SFGbob said:
White flag.
You claimed this statement was a lie:
Bernie wants to "dismantle ICE and CBP"
And for 3 days you called a statement of fact a lie. That's what pathological liars do. -
Great response to the fact as always, Captain Ad Hominem2001400ex said:
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Misdemeanors are still crimes.GDS said:It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.
For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.
It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.
With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University. -
Scotty was talking straight out of his ass.salemcoog said:
Misdemeanors are still crimes. -
yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense.salemcoog said:
Misdemeanors are still crimes. -
Not all of them. You lied Kunt. There were thousands of people processed criminally for entering the country illegally prior to 2004. You pulled that claim straight out of your ass.GDS said:
yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense. -
Title 8 of the U.S. Code identifies federal criminal offenses pertaining to immigration and nationality, including the following two entry-related offenses:
“Illegal Entry”/8 U.S.C. 1325 makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States. It applies to migrants who do not enter with proper inspection at a port of entry, such as those who enter between ports of entry, avoid examination or inspection, or who make false statements while entering or attempting to enter. A first offense is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine, up to six months in prison, or both.
“Illegal Re-Entry”/8 U.S.C. 1326 makes it a crime to unlawfully reenter, attempt to unlawfully reenter, or to be found in the United States after having been deported, ordered removed, or denied admission. This crime is punishable as a felony with a maximum sentence of two years. Higher penalties apply if the migrant has a criminal record: up to 10 years for a migrant with misdemeanors and simple felonies, and up to 20 years for more serious crimes.
Both of these have been on the books for over 50 years and thousands of people have been criminally charged and prosecuted for violating these laws during that time. -
Misdemeanors are still crimes.GDS said:
yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense.
