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The Triumphs of Troy, Open Thread
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BleachedAnusDawg said:
Urbs to ND.
Expect USC to give a long look at Brian Kelly. Also Bryan Kelley.MammaJamma said: -
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Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
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For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football -
This...the USC scandal was big. I'd actually be kinda shocked if they opened themselves up to Urban considering his track record...GrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football -
* scandalsHoustonHusky said:
This...the USC scandal was big. I'd actually be kinda shocked if they opened themselves up to Urban considering his track record...GrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
They have several institutional scandals there are far bigger problems than a shitty football team. -
Scandals go away. A long stretch of losing hurts you more financially long term than a few scandals.GrundleStiltzkin said:
* scandalsHoustonHusky said:
This...the USC scandal was big. I'd actually be kinda shocked if they opened themselves up to Urban considering his track record...GrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
They have several institutional scandals there are far bigger problems than a shitty football team. -
No one cares that some Ohio State assistant beat his wife. They care that the assistant was the bag man
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You might be right. And insurance is probably on the hook for the millions in liabilities they have.greenblood said:
Scandals go away. A long stretch of losing hurts you more financially long term than a few scandals.GrundleStiltzkin said:
* scandalsHoustonHusky said:
This...the USC scandal was big. I'd actually be kinda shocked if they opened themselves up to Urban considering his track record...GrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
They have several institutional scandals there are far bigger problems than a shitty football team.
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You have the Pac 12 going for you. I don''t know if USC is at the point where the upper campus hates football or not. This could be a good indicatorGrundleStiltzkin said:
You might be right. And insurance is probably on the hook for the millions in liabilities they have.greenblood said:
Scandals go away. A long stretch of losing hurts you more financially long term than a few scandals.GrundleStiltzkin said:
* scandalsHoustonHusky said:
This...the USC scandal was big. I'd actually be kinda shocked if they opened themselves up to Urban considering his track record...GrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
They have several institutional scandals there are far bigger problems than a shitty football team.
But still, I like my version better.
USC's rivals will scream bloody murder over Urban. Do they care?
When we? poached Rick which was the ballsiest move ever by Babs after firing Lambo the UW ended up melting under the glare of bad publicity and (shit tug belongs) started treating Rick like Romney treats Trump
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greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about footballGrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
Correct. Platschke and Thamel are saying President Carol Folt is trying so hard to get away from all the scandals, and all Urban has done is win.... and have scandals.
They’re saying James Franklin is the big fish.
“If they can’t sell Franklin on coming — and assuming Bob Stoops is happy in the XFL — they can sift through a list that would likely include Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, Baylor’s Matt Rhule, Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck, Iowa State’s Matt Campbell, Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.” -
I thought Franklin had a very well prepared sqwad in the Fiesta BowlDoogCourics said:greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about footballGrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
Correct. Platschke and Thamel are saying President Carol Folt is trying so hard to get away from all the scandals, and all Urban has done is win.... and have scandals.
They’re saying James Franklin is the big fish.
“If they can’t sell Franklin on coming — and assuming Bob Stoops is happy in the XFL — they can sift through a list that would likely include Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, Baylor’s Matt Rhule, Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck, Iowa State’s Matt Campbell, Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.”
He also drops one or two a year just like mere mortal coaches like say Petersen. He couldn't beat Urban much but his one win was a big one
O'Brien was replaced by former Vanderbilt head coach James Franklin in January 2014. Ohio State won in Franklin's first two seasons, but in 2016, a blocked punt and blocked field goal helped Penn State upset the #2 ranked Buckeyes, 24–21. Penn State would go on to win the conference championship. In 2017, the sixth-ranked Buckeyes hosted #2 Penn State. The Nittany Lions came into the game with best scoring defense in the country, allowing only 9.6 points per game, against an Ohio State team that led the Big 10 in scoring. Ultimately the Buckeyes overcame a 28–10 deficit to win, 39–38, scoring the winning touchdown with 1:48 in the game. In 2018, #4 Ohio State rallied from a 26-14 deficit to defeat #9 Penn State, 27–26. The loss ended Penn State's 16-game home winning streak.
Losing the last two from ahead is also familiar
Bottom line and thanks for hoppin on - Franklin will do very good at USC and win a shit ton of games and titles but not at the Urban level of destruction -
I agree, Urban Meyer will make Pete Carroll's run look weakRaceBannon said:
I thought Franklin had a very well prepared sqwad in the Fiesta BowlDoogCourics said:greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about footballGrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
Correct. Platschke and Thamel are saying President Carol Folt is trying so hard to get away from all the scandals, and all Urban has done is win.... and have scandals.
They’re saying James Franklin is the big fish.
“If they can’t sell Franklin on coming — and assuming Bob Stoops is happy in the XFL — they can sift through a list that would likely include Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, Baylor’s Matt Rhule, Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck, Iowa State’s Matt Campbell, Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.”
He also drops one or two a year just like mere mortal coaches like say Petersen. He couldn't beat Urban much but his one win was a big one
O'Brien was replaced by former Vanderbilt head coach James Franklin in January 2014. Ohio State won in Franklin's first two seasons, but in 2016, a blocked punt and blocked field goal helped Penn State upset the #2 ranked Buckeyes, 24–21. Penn State would go on to win the conference championship. In 2017, the sixth-ranked Buckeyes hosted #2 Penn State. The Nittany Lions came into the game with best scoring defense in the country, allowing only 9.6 points per game, against an Ohio State team that led the Big 10 in scoring. Ultimately the Buckeyes overcame a 28–10 deficit to win, 39–38, scoring the winning touchdown with 1:48 in the game. In 2018, #4 Ohio State rallied from a 26-14 deficit to defeat #9 Penn State, 27–26. The loss ended Penn State's 16-game home winning streak.
Losing the last two from ahead is also familiar
Bottom line and thanks for hoppin on - Franklin will do very good at USC and win a shit ton of games and titles but not at the Urban level of destruction -
He’s not leaving State College 😂that’s laughable. He’s a god there. He gets almost any player he wants and doesn’t have the pressure of USC boosters. Urban or bustDoogCourics said:greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about footballGrundleStiltzkin said:
For the politically-minded decision makers at USC, Urb's baggage plus their own copious issues has to be a concern.greenblood said:
Because the President won't let him hire Meyer.rodmansrage said:nah sho fahst mah frens...
I love that USC no longer cares about football
Correct. Platschke and Thamel are saying President Carol Folt is trying so hard to get away from all the scandals, and all Urban has done is win.... and have scandals.
They’re saying James Franklin is the big fish.
“If they can’t sell Franklin on coming — and assuming Bob Stoops is happy in the XFL — they can sift through a list that would likely include Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, Baylor’s Matt Rhule, Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck, Iowa State’s Matt Campbell, Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.” -
If it was just one scandal from Urbs I think they wouldn’t care. I think it’s the number, Including sensitivity to the whole Aaron Hernandez mess with Urbs at Florida considering USC has its OJ problem.RaceBannon said:No one cares that some Ohio State assistant beat his wife. They care that the assistant was the bag man
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Call me crazy, but if the USC president is that concerned about scandal and off-field issues, I won't be shocked if they put the full court press on Petersen. Assuming that this season isn't an indication that Petersen has gone full Chip Kelly and cashed in and checked out, he could do some serious damage down there. I don't think, for instance, he'd have to worry about seasons where there are zero linebackers or non-freshman safeties on the roster. That he's a bottom-10 game day coach in the entire country wouldn't go away, but it wouldn't matter when he'd have the talent on the roster to be up by multiple scores in every game.
If the priorities for USC are:
1.) Be clean
2.) Win,
then I don't see why Petersen wouldn't be top of the list. He's a guy that would probably have that program winning the conference three out of four years, making the playoff one out of three, and getting plungered in the playoff ten out of ten. With a squeaky clean image, that's probably good enough.
Just in conference, I think Wilcox could do alright there (with the right OC) and seems pretty scandalproof. And, call me crazy, but what about @Babushka? What he's doing at OSU is pretty impressive, relatively speaking. Whit... Not so sure. Somehow half the players in the country that get kicked out of their school end up at Utah, so I don't think he's the choir boy that some make him out to be. He's also nearly as piss poor at clock/game management as Petersen.
All that being said, with the way USC's offense has turned around this year, I wouldn't be surprised if, after a lot of hullabaloo, Graham Harrell isn't just promoted to HC. -
after a 'players vote.'1to392831weretaken said:
All that being said, with the way USC's offense has turned around this year, I wouldn't be surprised if, after a lot of hullabaloo, Graham Harrell isn't just promoted to HC. -
zero chance whit leaves utah, he's got it too good and he knows it.DoogCourics said:
“If they can’t sell Franklin on coming — and assuming Bob Stoops is happy in the XFL — they can sift through a list that would likely include Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, Baylor’s Matt Rhule, Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck, Iowa State’s Matt Campbell, Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.”
rhule would do a good job but the nfl might come calling soon.
pj just re-upped with minny.
campbell, eh, could be alright but he has pretty deep midwest/rustbelt roots.
fickell, midwest guy, tearin shit up at cinci like brian kelly and brian kelly did, maybe he troojes out.
norvell, lol:
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I would really really not like it if norvell went to sc.
All of Graham's good years were due to him. Great OC , good recruiter, other coaches really like him.
Apparently was banging coeds and led to a falling out with graham lol
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Jack Del Rio update
He has an appearnce on the LA ESPN radio show
Keyshawn asked him if he watched the Oregon game. Jack hems and haws and said kind of but was busy
So Kewshawn says let me ask you this - did you ever think you'd see it when kids just down the road who should be Trojans play for a team like Oregon and kick our ass (USC does NOT respect Oregon like they do us)
That got Jack going. I guess the kid that got booted for Oregon is from Mater Dei
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Did they figure shit out with that Cicny guy?
Yes
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https://insideusc.blog/2019/11/07/mike-bohn-carol-folt-press-conference-analysis/
Kick ass presser update
There is definitely a new attitude and new leadership at USC.
This was the most important quote from the press conference: “My intent is to listen, to learn and to lead, in that order.”
This is directly opposite the attitude of Lynn Swann, who never tried to learn how to be an athletic director.
“I am immensely passionate and energetic,” Bohn said.
Again, a direct contradiction from Swann’s attitude. Unless he was on a golf course.
So USC can only get better from an athletic director standpoint. And Carol Folt made clear USC benefits from hiring people with outside experience. Also a plus.
Folt said there would be no limitations on who Bohn can hire. I hope this is true because it would go against what she has said privately when she described Urban Meyer as “radioactive” and there was a snag during negotiations regarding Meyer, according to sources. -
There was a time when I recall people saying that the one job Urban would leave any other job for was Notre Dame. It is clear that Kelley is Chris Petersen. He made them competitive but they are never going to repeat what they did under slober mouth with Kelley. Which surpises me because Kelley was a good coach at Cincy. What is not clear to me is whether the ND power brokers care to be at that level or not. One thing Holtz did at ND was get the admission standards relaxed so he could bring in players like Ricky Waters. Will they do that again? IDK, but that's the move you're making when you hire Meyer. He is all football and nothing else.RaceBannon said:https://insideusc.blog/2019/11/07/mike-bohn-carol-folt-press-conference-analysis/
Kick ass presser update
There is definitely a new attitude and new leadership at USC.
This was the most important quote from the press conference: “My intent is to listen, to learn and to lead, in that order.”
This is directly opposite the attitude of Lynn Swann, who never tried to learn how to be an athletic director.
“I am immensely passionate and energetic,” Bohn said.
Again, a direct contradiction from Swann’s attitude. Unless he was on a golf course.
So USC can only get better from an athletic director standpoint. And Carol Folt made clear USC benefits from hiring people with outside experience. Also a plus.
Folt said there would be no limitations on who Bohn can hire. I hope this is true because it would go against what she has said privately when she described Urban Meyer as “radioactive” and there was a snag during negotiations regarding Meyer, according to sources.
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wait...so Folt and Bohn are actively talking about hiring a new guy while Helton is still coaching?
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USC sending out "feelers" and openly discussing options while sending out a "dead man walking" coach each week.Meek said:wait...so Folt and Bohn are actively talking about hiring a new guy while Helton is still coaching?
what a fucking clown show
1) This sends out a pretty bad message to any coach interested in that job
2) This will likely send the recruiting from bad to cratering.
3) They basically showed their hand, and now any coach that interviews can leverage the crap out of them, because it means Meyer and Franklin are off the table.
Fight on!
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Denial is just stage one.greenblood said:
USC sending out "feelers" and openly discussing options while sending out a "dead man walking" coach each week.Meek said:wait...so Folt and Bohn are actively talking about hiring a new guy while Helton is still coaching?
what a fucking clown show
1) This sends out a pretty bad message to any coach interested in that job
2) This will likely send the recruiting from bad to cratering.
3) They basically showed their hand, and now any coach that interviews can leverage the crap out of them, because it means Meyer and Franklin are off the table.
Fight on! -
she's saying this publicly but we?'ll know the truf if/when they hire urbs.GrundleStiltzkin said:
