Regarding the Young Talent™
2019, I don't know. McDuffie might be the only one consistently for me. Puka I guess, but now a much-documented health problem. A couple of the DTs have been good at times, but none have had anywhere near the performance that #MyGaines did against USC in 2015.
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Vita did nothing noteworthy in 2015. He barely did in 16
Gianes, Baker, and Adams did
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Good point on Vita.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Vita did nothing noteworthy in 2015. He barely did in 16
Gianes, Baker, and Adams did
Id say Turner and Williams will be solid players but they are taking their lumps
And I should have shoutout #MyDick.
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Tuli and Taki still look like they will be monsters in the coming years. Almost all of our great DTs have taken a few years to develop.
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Marlon loss is really hurting usYellowSnow said:Tuli and Taki still look like they will be monsters in the coming years. Almost all of our great DTs have taken a few years to develop.
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I think what Tuli is doing is pretty comparable time what Gaines did in his redshirt freshman year.
Tuli probably has the higher ceiling. Guys like Tuli and Vea are multi year investments because they are so out of shape. It can’t be done in a year. Tuli still does well because he’s so strong, but I bet if you watched him every play, there are plays where his effort is shit because he’s tired and it’s hard for a guy that big to always play hard. -
It's not like our coaching staff just forget how to develop interior DL. In a few years we might be looking at DL play the likes of which we haven't seen since the early 90s.RoadDawg55 said:I think what Tuli is doing is pretty comparable time what Gaines did in his redshirt freshman year.
Tuli probably has the higher ceiling. Guys like Tuli and Vea are multi year investments because they are so out of shape. It can’t be done in a year. Tuli still does well because he’s so strong, but I bet if you watched him every play, there are plays where his effort is shit because he’s tired and it’s hard for a guy that big to always play hard. -
Vita and Gaines held that Alabama team to a standstill for much of the game. They covered up much of the weaknesses until the team was eventually Overwhelmed.
People forget that.
If we had depth plus the talent like that imagine ...
Vita and Gaines plus rotating tuli and taki plus bandes and faatui etc ... Peterman get your shit together! -
On the Offensive side:
Mele (RSFr) filled in very well for Harris
Otton (RSSo) looks great
Bynum has played very well now that he is getting time and targets, puka looked good before his foot died
Newton (RSFr) looks like the next very good UW RB
Also, Henry (RSSo) looks like a new kicker and should be a national kicker award finalist
Defense:
The young DL is going to be good. Especially if Tryon, Tuli, and Latu continue to improve as they have this season. Also, Tuitele who they are trying to RS.
Mcduffie has looked like one of the best young DBs UW has had.
Gordon and Hampton are just RSFr and are being asked to play a lot of coverage as only one deep safety or no help outside (because ILB). They aren't quite ready/dominate but they are going to be very good.
Turner is being forced to learn to play LB/S hybrid as a true freshman which even Budda wasn't ready for his true freshman year.
McKinney is a massive disappointment and has got to be a portal casualty, I thought we were going to all hate him, but he can't even get on the field.
Molden and Taylor, I am not at all worried about, they, like Bryant, are being asked to do way too much out of the slot/dime/nickel/striker/LB position because the ILB sucks so much.
There is a lot of young talent. DOOG! DOOG! DOOG!
None of it will matter though: Heimuli, Fuavai, Fowler, Calvert, Tuputala, Trice, and Miki Ah You are all redshirting ILB this year... better hope two of them figure it out or UW is going to suffer the same ILB problems next year though. Maybe they will get to play in the final 3 games plus the bowl game that's left.
Asa needs to drink the Rino Cum and add 20+ lbs in the offseason so he can play ILB.
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Young guys that Grundle should feel good about in regards to the next few years to match up to 2015:
Sophomores
- Bynum is really coming on the last two weeks
- Otton is a stud
- Kirkland mauls people
- Tryon needs to be better but has had some flashes, I think he’s still learning football
- Ngata needs to be better but has looked good when he plays inside
- Bain still is unknown but he reminds me of Tryon, athleticism jumps off the screen but is learning
RS Freshman
- Dick is a fucking man
- Spiker has had nice catches when he gets snaps
- Ozzy, not willing to write him off because every writer said he was dominating camp, he just hasn’t gotten any balls thrown his way
- Mele has taken over for Harris twice with zero snap issues or coverage breakdowns
- Tuli has been a monster pushing people into the QB and just needs consistency and growth
- Taki hasn’t looked as good as Tuli, but has held his own as a freshman
- ZTF has played well in limited time and has great outside size
- Kyler has taken his lumps but has had some great plays as well
True Freahman
- Puka is the best WR on the roster
- McDuffie has been lights out as a starting CB
- Fautanu looked amazing in camp before getting hurt
- Latu has looked great when he plays
- Tuitele looked good in his few exhibition games
- Turner has looked incredible
- Calvert by all accounts was going to get a lot of run this year before he got hurt
There is a lot of talent in the young guys, which is why everyone has been clamoring for them to play over vets who have struggled.
Edit: fuck you and your 30 seconds @Houhusky
Seems we were thinking identical thoughts. -
Irregardless we run Petermen's offense.
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There were some pretty average players that were ballin vs Alabama. Jaylen Johnson, Turpin, Tevis. They were confident and that matters a lot. We aren’t confident like we were back then.animate said:Vita and Gaines held that Alabama team to a standstill for much of the game. They covered up much of the weaknesses until the team was eventually Overwhelmed.
People forget that.
If we had depth plus the talent like that imagine ...
Vita and Gaines plus rotating tuli and taki plus bandes and faatui etc ... Peterman get your shit together! -
You 2 should cyber. Or pod. Or both.DoogCourics said:Young guys that Grundle should feel good about in regards to the next few years to match up to 2015:
Sophomores
- Bynum is really coming on the last two weeks
- Otton is a stud
- Kirkland mauls people
- Tryon needs to be better but has had some flashes, I think he’s still learning football
- Ngata needs to be better but has looked good when he plays inside
- Bain still is unknown but he reminds me of Tryon, athleticism jumps off the screen but is learning
RS Freshman
- Dick is a fucking man
- Spiker has had nice catches when he gets snaps
- Ozzy, not willing to write him off because every writer said he was dominating camp, he just hasn’t gotten any balls thrown his way
- Mele has taken over for Harris twice with zero snap issues or coverage breakdowns
- Tuli has been a monster pushing people into the QB and just needs consistency and growth
- Taki hasn’t looked as good as Tuli, but has held his own as a freshman
- ZTF has played well in limited time and has great outside size
- Kyler has taken his lumps but has had some great plays as well
True Freahman
- Puka is the best WR on the roster
- McDuffie has been lights out as a starting CB
- Fautanu looked amazing in camp before getting hurt
- Latu has looked great when he plays
- Tuitele looked good in his few exhibition games
- Turner has looked incredible
- Calvert by all accounts was going to get a lot of run this year before he got hurt
There is a lot of talent in the young guys, which is why everyone has been clamoring for them to play over vets who have struggled.
Edit: fuck you and your 30 seconds @Houhusky
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I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
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Good poonts. But I'll DQ Otton & Kirkland because they started last year.
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I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
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Williams. Talk about a guy who looked all world lining up against our WRs in camp. That don't translate to IRL.RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
If you are DQing guys who played last year doesn’t it really have anything to do with actual young talent (Tm) on the roster.GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
They are still young and talented.
You’ve basically only limited the pool to young players (Fr-So?), that didn’t start in previous years, that have played significant time this year. (Do puka or newton count?)
Chopping off the top and bottom bounds of playing time is obviously going to yield a small number.
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I'm talking about 2019 equivalents of 2015 Gaskin, Gaines or McGary. First year players that have played well, if not consistently, then at least often enough to catch the eye. All I came up with first was McDuffie, but others rightly pointed out #MyDick. Puka has definitely flashed, but only flashes. Latu maybe too (honestly, what happened? Hurt?). Tuli/Taki are debatable. Mele is a good one.Houhusky said:GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
If you are DQing guys who played last year doesn’t it really have anything to do with actual young talent (Tm) on the roster.GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
They are still young and talented.
You’ve basically only limited the pool to young players (Fr-So?), that didn’t start in previous years, that have played significant time this year. (Do puka or newton count?)
Chopping off the top and bottom bounds of playing time is obviously going to yield a small number.
How many guys fit in your starting parameters on the roster regardless of being talented? 5?
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He still had 3 picks in a quarter of the season. He is a bad tackler but that can improve with strength and reps. The most worrisome part was his breakdowns, giving up long TD passes when he was 20 yards deep before the snap.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Williams. Talk about a guy who looked all world lining up against our WRs in camp. That don't translate to IRL.RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
I think the coaches got a little too excited and enamored with him early. He probably would be better off if he hadn’t played at all because getting benched can really hurt a guy’s confidence. I hope that’s not the case.
With most young guys, if they have one stand out skill, they end up being pretty good. Williams ball skills are really good. Kevin King sucked his first two years but was always a great athlete. Kyler Gordon is an amazing athlete.
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A lot of dooging going on here
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A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging. -
Some posters need to be taken out back and put downYellowSnow said:
A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging. -
Are you sure you don't mean the Young Talent° ?
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Not to name any names though, right?RaceBannon said:
Some posters need to be taken out back and put downYellowSnow said:
A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
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They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???YellowSnow said:
A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging. -
Gregory not going anywhere
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What does lack of player development at ILB and WR have to do with acknowledging that there are some specific young players at TE, RB, DB, OL, or DL that have talent?FirePete said:
They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???YellowSnow said:
A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
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I am, of course, interested the most in the new O linemen that the Cult Leader Huff has brought in to become a GREAT O line. Not a good one or one that doesn't suck like we have now. But a GREAT one
You combine Metallica and Harleys and you got a coach that that asshole Race Bannon better not criticize.
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WR development or lack thereof has been a tad over dramatized in my humble opinion. Its still a good "room" that should get betterFirePete said:
They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???YellowSnow said:
A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.FirePete said:A lot of dooging going on here
Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
Keeping Gregory and continuing to fuck up on linebackers is the major concern -
Cam Williams will be a good player and likely starting again come next year
