Regarding the Young Talent™
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There were some pretty average players that were ballin vs Alabama. Jaylen Johnson, Turpin, Tevis. They were confident and that matters a lot. We aren’t confident like we were back then.animate said:Vita and Gaines held that Alabama team to a standstill for much of the game. They covered up much of the weaknesses until the team was eventually Overwhelmed.
People forget that.
If we had depth plus the talent like that imagine ...
Vita and Gaines plus rotating tuli and taki plus bandes and faatui etc ... Peterman get your shit together! -
You 2 should cyber. Or pod. Or both.DoogCourics said:Young guys that Grundle should feel good about in regards to the next few years to match up to 2015:
Sophomores
- Bynum is really coming on the last two weeks
- Otton is a stud
- Kirkland mauls people
- Tryon needs to be better but has had some flashes, I think he’s still learning football
- Ngata needs to be better but has looked good when he plays inside
- Bain still is unknown but he reminds me of Tryon, athleticism jumps off the screen but is learning
RS Freshman
- Dick is a fucking man
- Spiker has had nice catches when he gets snaps
- Ozzy, not willing to write him off because every writer said he was dominating camp, he just hasn’t gotten any balls thrown his way
- Mele has taken over for Harris twice with zero snap issues or coverage breakdowns
- Tuli has been a monster pushing people into the QB and just needs consistency and growth
- Taki hasn’t looked as good as Tuli, but has held his own as a freshman
- ZTF has played well in limited time and has great outside size
- Kyler has taken his lumps but has had some great plays as well
True Freahman
- Puka is the best WR on the roster
- McDuffie has been lights out as a starting CB
- Fautanu looked amazing in camp before getting hurt
- Latu has looked great when he plays
- Tuitele looked good in his few exhibition games
- Turner has looked incredible
- Calvert by all accounts was going to get a lot of run this year before he got hurt
There is a lot of talent in the young guys, which is why everyone has been clamoring for them to play over vets who have struggled.
Edit: fuck you and your 30 seconds @Houhusky
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I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
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Good poonts. But I'll DQ Otton & Kirkland because they started last year.
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I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
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Williams. Talk about a guy who looked all world lining up against our WRs in camp. That don't translate to IRL.RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
If you are DQing guys who played last year doesn’t it really have anything to do with actual young talent (Tm) on the roster.GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
They are still young and talented.
You’ve basically only limited the pool to young players (Fr-So?), that didn’t start in previous years, that have played significant time this year. (Do puka or newton count?)
Chopping off the top and bottom bounds of playing time is obviously going to yield a small number.
How many guys fit in your starting parameters on the roster regardless of being talented? 5? -
I'm talking about 2019 equivalents of 2015 Gaskin, Gaines or McGary. First year players that have played well, if not consistently, then at least often enough to catch the eye. All I came up with first was McDuffie, but others rightly pointed out #MyDick. Puka has definitely flashed, but only flashes. Latu maybe too (honestly, what happened? Hurt?). Tuli/Taki are debatable. Mele is a good one.Houhusky said:GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
If you are DQing guys who played last year doesn’t it really have anything to do with actual young talent (Tm) on the roster.GrundleStiltzkin said:I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.
They are still young and talented.
You’ve basically only limited the pool to young players (Fr-So?), that didn’t start in previous years, that have played significant time this year. (Do puka or newton count?)
Chopping off the top and bottom bounds of playing time is obviously going to yield a small number.
How many guys fit in your starting parameters on the roster regardless of being talented? 5?
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He still had 3 picks in a quarter of the season. He is a bad tackler but that can improve with strength and reps. The most worrisome part was his breakdowns, giving up long TD passes when he was 20 yards deep before the snap.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Williams. Talk about a guy who looked all world lining up against our WRs in camp. That don't translate to IRL.RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think either will be a star, but I wouldn’t write off Cam Williams or Kyler Gordon. By their junior and senior years they could be pretty good starters. They also could get passed up. Williams doesn’t even play anymore. If he can even get to being above average, his balls skills and playmaking ability will push him into the good to very good range.
I think the coaches got a little too excited and enamored with him early. He probably would be better off if he hadn’t played at all because getting benched can really hurt a guy’s confidence. I hope that’s not the case.
With most young guys, if they have one stand out skill, they end up being pretty good. Williams ball skills are really good. Kevin King sucked his first two years but was always a great athlete. Kyler Gordon is an amazing athlete.
Sirmon on the other hand, has no standout skill that makes me think there is something to work with. -
A lot of dooging going on here
