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Kingsley Ah You Suamataia, 2021 4* OL, Orem (HS), UT (Offered 6/22/18)

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  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    RatherBeBrewing said:

    “All of my offers are blessings, and Oregon is always going to be my top school because it feels like home,” he said. “It’s different from watching it on TV to actually being in the stadium. It’s a good different. It feels really… I don’t know, like you can’t believe you are there.”

    “We are really close and they said I was their highest priority in my class,” Suamataia said. “It really meant a lot. It’s a great blessing to hear that.”

    Adding to the appeal of Oregon is Suamataia’s relationship to his cousins, sophomore left tackle Penei Sewell and five-star linebacker Noah Sewell, who was on his official visit to Eugene for the weekend.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/2019/10/elite-offensive-lineman-kingsley-suamataia-oregon-ducks-have-strong-mutual-interest-after-visit.html



    Poor kid has a fucked up home life, someone call Utah CPS.
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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    edited October 2019
    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,169 Standard Supporter
    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
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  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    edited October 2019
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,169 Standard Supporter
    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
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  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    The late hit on Turner was such shit. He pulled back and didn't hit him hard at all. I was more pissed about that call than the non interference at the end.
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  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    RatherBeBrewing said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
    For this half season
    From 2016 to 2018 UW outperformed Oregon

    2-1 head to head and two Pac 12 titles

    4th in the north for Oregon
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  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited October 2019
    RatherBeBrewing said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
    Oregon's biggest accomplishment recently is winning the RedBox Bowl 7-6. Yes, they have had a nice half season and escaped with a few wins that just as easily could have been losses. They escaped against the fucking Cougs at home and rushed the field, for fuck's sake. If that isn't a sign of a dominant progrum, I don't know what is. I'm not going to crown them yet. In the meantime...




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  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    RaceBannon said:

    RatherBeBrewing said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
    For this half season
    From 2016 to 2018 UW outperformed Oregon

    2-1 head to head and two Pac 12 titles

    4th in the north for Oregon
    Petersen 2-4 against Oregon, Cubano 2-0 against Washington. Do you really have that much confidence it will change in the near future? Even if Eason is coming back in 2020 Oregon is starting the year off ranked higher. No one cares about rankings, other than the media, fans, and recruits.

    I thought Petersen was going to be running train on the conference after 2017, but in the past two years he's been out coached twice in head-to-heads by Wilcox and Cristobal. A beat up Stanford ran over them. Those recruits with great 247 AVERAGES have been beat by Wilcox's nobodies, and Cristobal has restocked the roster after it was decimated. I've been bitching about how I'm still far from sold on Cristobal, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see that down syndrome sufferer Clay Helton get a win on Saturday.
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  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    CallMeBigErn said:

    RatherBeBrewing said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
    Oregon's biggest accomplishment recently is winning the RedBox Bowl 7-6. Yes, they have had a nice half season and escaped with a few wins that just as easily could have been losses. They escaped against the fucking Cougs at home and rushed the field, for fuck's sake. If that isn't a sign of a dominant progrum, I don't know what is. I'm not going to crown them yet. In the meantime...




    Yeah, fucking students. How dare do they want to have fun and rush the field, didn't they know that some doogs are going to criticize it as a sign that the football program isn't dominant?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    The late hit on Turner was such shit. He pulled back and didn't hit him hard at all. I was more pissed about that call than the non interference at the end.
    It was still kind of dumb. I know it’s hard to slow down but I knew it was getting called when it happened.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    The late hit on Turner was such shit. He pulled back and didn't hit him hard at all. I was more pissed about that call than the non interference at the end.
    It was still kind of dumb. I know it’s hard to slow down but I knew it was getting called when it happened.
    The only thing I could think of that he possibly could have done to keep from hitting him is jump over him maybe.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    RatherBeBrewing said:

    RaceBannon said:

    RatherBeBrewing said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, it seems like you're still infected with BallzCobra talking poonts.

    * Washington has had the better AVERAGE recruit for a few classes. Yet, Oregon's players are better (or at least outperforming) Washington's. Does this mean Crystalball and his staff are better? Is that what you're trying to say? I could live with that.

    * I do enjoy the extreme cherry picking and reaching on recruit average, when Oregon had the higher composite average recruit last year and in the current class the average is .09 higher before Oregon gets Noah Sewell.

    * There's a reason recruiting rankings aren't based on average but on total. Signing and portaling in 25 kids each year and processing the dead weight is necessary. There's a bust rate, no matter how highly ranked a recruit is - with a decreasing bust chance for the elite recruits.

    * If recruiting isn't Washington's problem, is it evaluation? Look at the 2018 class. The one Ballz loved to shit on for Oregon and hype up Washington's. Who is faring better? I'd say look at the 2019 class, but Petersmen doesn't play freshmen. Meanwhile, Cubano Sandwich isn't just using the top end of the 2019 class. The lower ranked guys are also getting lots of snaps and winning conference games.

    * There are recruits in both classes that the other would love to have. The Ballz argument is that Oregon has fewer that Washington would want. I don't fucking know if that's true, the programs pursue a lot of different players. Oregon is willing to go into Georgia, Maryland, Mississippi, Florida, where ever the fuck. I do know that Oregon is managing their roster really well for the future, after Helfrich fucked depth.
    For this half season
    From 2016 to 2018 UW outperformed Oregon

    2-1 head to head and two Pac 12 titles

    4th in the north for Oregon
    Petersen 2-4 against Oregon, Cubano 2-0 against Washington. Do you really have that much confidence it will change in the near future? Even if Eason is coming back in 2020 Oregon is starting the year off ranked higher. No one cares about rankings, other than the media, fans, and recruits.

    I thought Petersen was going to be running train on the conference after 2017, but in the past two years he's been out coached twice in head-to-heads by Wilcox and Cristobal. A beat up Stanford ran over them. Those recruits with great 247 AVERAGES have been beat by Wilcox's nobodies, and Cristobal has restocked the roster after it was decimated. I've been bitching about how I'm still far from sold on Cristobal, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see that down syndrome sufferer Clay Helton get a win on Saturday.
    I just pointed out that you were wrong because you were wrong

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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
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  • DoogWhisperer
    DoogWhisperer Member Posts: 1,035
    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    The dooging is real.

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  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited October 2019
    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    How that can be true? Sark's teams either won or got ass blasted.
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    CallMeBigErn said:

    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    How that can be true? Sark's teams either won or got ass blasted.
    I was thinking this same thing.

    5-4

    5 close wins. 4 anal rape losses
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    CallMeBigErn said:

    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    How that can be true? Sark's teams either won or got ass blasted.
    Sark would always say his 7-6 squad was just a few plays from winning ten games or the conference or whatever.

    I think it was 2013 fall camp he had a press conference that was lampooned on here because Sark said something like he considered the 2012 team a 10 win team.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    FremontTroll said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    How that can be true? Sark's teams either won or got ass blasted.
    Sark would always say his 7-6 squad was just a few plays from winning ten games or the conference or whatever.

    I think it was 2013 fall camp he had a press conference that was lampooned on here because Sark said something like he considered the 2012 team a 10 win team.
    I remember that

    Ty was the 5 plays away from winning an individual game guy
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    The fact that Sark had so many blowout losses made it more ridiculous but it’s the same fallacious reasoning.

    Out of 150+ plays in a game you are picking out the two or three that went the worst for you and ignoring any luck that went the other way.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited October 2019
    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    whuggy said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    animate said:

    Kids are kids. Peterman is fucking up the whole recruiting vibe because of seniority and stupid ass playcalling and personnel decisions straight from Benny Hill.

    How do you expect to be recruiting when you lose to Oregon, keep Kingsley's cousin Puka on the bench when he's your best receiver outside of black beast ... While you play fucktard baccelia over and over ...

    This shit comes back to bite you in the ass Peterman! Get your shit together. "It's not for everyone" fuck off.

    Losing isn't for everyone. Gaining a bad rep isn't for everyone either ... that's why people go elsewhere to winners ...

    That doesn't really seem to be why this kid is interested in Oregon over UW.
    How about a small dose of honesty here. The kid looks like he is having a great time in that video. While ours look like manikins next to the cardboard cutout. It would be nice if Pete remembered that kids play this game for fun and loosened up a couple of degrees. Then again. This program isn't for everybody.
    That kind of stuff might be attractive to some kids, but not all. I think there needs to be a small reality accepted that not every kid will want to go to UW regardless of how Pete sells the program. You can't change your sales pitch based on who you're selling to every time you contact a recruit. Or, maybe you can and that's how you end up making 400 offers each cycle.

    I'm not a recruiting expert at all, but people need to accept that we are never going to get every kid we want regardless of what Pete does or does not do.
    Oh I get that. My comment was based more on what appears to be a pretty buttoned up UW football culture. It is okay for kids to have some fun. Jeez if you can't get a little loose at a recruiting photo shoot then what the hell? I think Oregon offering 300 kids is stupid but there are a number of elements in their recruiting approach that they are clearly better at.
    Just so we're clear, UW has recruited better than Oregon every year since 2016, per 247 average recruit rankings, and that doesn't look to be changing this year or next. Recruiting is not the issue right now. We're about 5 plays from being 7-1 at least and the narrative would be completely different. Football is a cruel mistress.
    Yep. Baccallia and Lucciano’s bad plays vs Cal. Change those and we win.

    3rd and 2 vs Oregon. Even if we converted there was a ways to go, but it was big. Early on, Pleasant’s drop and the late hit by Turner on Herbert the first drives of the game.

    Change those 3 and we are 7-1 despite the holes in the roster.
    This is starting to sound like Sark.
    A little bit. We’re 5-3 and that’s the fact. People said this shit to fluff up Sark, especially in 2012 when doogs hammered that we should have been 9-4. Kim was the main one to always post it.

    I’m just commenting that we were close. They should have been wins. Stanford was the only game we got beaten pretty soundly. I still think Pete has absolutely sucked this year and fucked over the season.
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    FremontTroll said:

    The fact that Sark had so many blowout losses made it more ridiculous but it’s the same fallacious reasoning.

    Out of 150+ plays in a game you are picking out the two or three that went the worst for you and ignoring any luck that went the other way.

    The ILBs have been so bad it’s like the defense is playing a man down a lot of times.

    I don’t think it’s unfair to say things would look way different on the defense if just RS senior BBK were playing this year instead of basically playing a man down. It’s just that this year, even mediocre/average ILB play would be a massive improvement for the entire defense.

    ATBS, this year it’s the WRs and ILB, in the past it’s been kicking or QB, by the time they fix ILB it will be something else.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    I think the defense has been trending down for a bit now. Not as glaring as this year but Penn State and Ohio State went through them like a hot knife through butter. We actually played good defense against Bama,

    Thus year we are struggling more in league consistently instead of a 2017 Stanford once in awhile
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