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So if those in power don't like your political affiliations you don't get to own any firearms even if you have never committed a crime and passed a background check to obtain a CCW.
I don't condone this persons politics but this is exactly why the left wants this stuff.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/19/us/kaleb-james-cole-guns-seized/index.html
I don't condone this persons politics but this is exactly why the left wants this stuff.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/19/us/kaleb-james-cole-guns-seized/index.html
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How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism." -
See there is the commie. They pop right out. Thought police.2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
He's committed no crimes and he's made no threats. That Canada considers this group terrorists is another issue. Iran wants all of us dead so if say say you're a terrorist group member the USA should take your guns? If N. Korea says o? Just who is the arbiter of our constitutional rights here comrade?
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Who gets to decide that, Hondo?2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’?
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Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?PurpleThrobber said:
Who gets to decide that, Hondo?2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’? -
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Are you really that unfamiliar with how matters of law are decided in this country?PurpleThrobber said:
Who gets to decide that, Hondo?2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’? -
Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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2001400ex said:
How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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El OH El.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.MikeDamone said:
There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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No the best part is you don’t get it. At all.2001400ex said:
The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.MikeDamone said:
There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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I'll put you on the side of right wing hate groups.CuntWaffle said:
No the best part is you don’t get it. At all.2001400ex said:
The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.MikeDamone said:
There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns. -
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire? -
Turn the gun on yourself and pull the trigger2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire? -
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire? -
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat. -
He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.2001400ex said:
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat. -
Exactly. The. Fucking. Poont.2001400ex said:
I'll put you on the side of right wing hate groups.CuntWaffle said:
No the best part is you don’t get it. At all.2001400ex said:
The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.MikeDamone said:
There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
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Are you fucking serious? This is a GREAT use of this law. Fucking Christ.
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No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?USMChawk said:
He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.2001400ex said:
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat. -
Evangelicals are morons but they aren’t a hate group.2001400ex said:
Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?PurpleThrobber said:
Who gets to decide that, Hondo?2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’? -
Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.2001400ex said:
No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?USMChawk said:
He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.2001400ex said:
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat. -
Yet! Will be soon if the left has it's way.Rubberfist said:
Evangelicals are morons but they aren’t a hate group.2001400ex said:
Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?PurpleThrobber said:
Who gets to decide that, Hondo?2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’? -
Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?Sledog said:
Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.2001400ex said:
No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?USMChawk said:
He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.2001400ex said:
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat. -
Is it classified as a terror group in the US? If so how did he pass the background for a CCW?2001400ex said:
Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?Sledog said:
Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.2001400ex said:
No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?USMChawk said:
He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.2001400ex said:
With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.USMChawk said:
True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.2001400ex said:
So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?USMChawk said:
If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.2001400ex said:
So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?USMChawk said:
WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.2001400ex said:
So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.USMChawk said:2001400ex said:How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?
The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."
Do you really lack this much self awareness?2001400ex said:
We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.WestlinnDuck said:Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.
Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
Shill on dumbfuck.
