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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
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    USMChawkUSMChawk Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,796
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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,799
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.
    The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.
    No the best part is you don’t get it. At all.
    I'll put you on the side of right wing hate groups.
    Exactly. The. Fucking. Poont.
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    RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
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    Are you fucking serious? This is a GREAT use of this law. Fucking Christ.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
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    RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    Who gets to decide that, Hondo?

    To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’?

    Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?
    Evangelicals are morons but they aren’t a hate group.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,812
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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,812
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    Who gets to decide that, Hondo?

    To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’?

    Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?
    Evangelicals are morons but they aren’t a hate group.
    Yet! Will be soon if the left has it's way.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.
    Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,812
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.
    Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?
    Is it classified as a terror group in the US? If so how did he pass the background for a CCW?

    Shill on dumbfuck.
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    RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.
    Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?
    Is it classified as a terror group in the US? If so how did he pass the background for a CCW?

    Shill on dumbfuck.
    Some states take guns away from the mentally ill. How is this so different? We categorize people who don’t get guns because they pose a danger to society. So what?
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    USMChawkUSMChawk Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,796
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    edited October 2019
    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Which is it? Show you proof from the article or there’s more that what was reported? Sounds like you’re arguing your feelings and not facts. I’m not willing to give up any rights because of your feelings.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Which is it?
    Both.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    Who gets to decide that, Hondo?

    To the extreme progressive, Evangelical Christians are a hate group because of their beliefs - religious and political. Are they banned because Josephine Stalinista decides they are ‘hateful’?

    Who actually thinks Evangelical Christians are a hate group? Hyperbole much?
    Hondo missing the point as usual.
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    If you’re part of a known terrorist group there are legal processes already in place. You’re using a Reductio ad absurdum argument.

    Yes, I believe all people are entitled to their human rights. And all legal citizens are entitled to their civil rights, until such time that they are legally removed. If you are a member of a Nazi group, an Antifa group, a hate group of any political stripe BUT have not committed a crime, then you are allowed to keep your rights, which includes guns.
    So you are saying. If I post all over Facebook that I'm going to shoot up a school. Which is in my first amendment rights. That I should keep my guns until I shoot up a school?

    What if I call the police and tell them I'm going to be shooting up a school. Should they follow me to the school and not do anything until I open fire?
    True Threat statements aren’t protected by the First Amendment, so your scenarios are invalid. There’s no need for a Red Flag law to cover something that’s already illegal. Unless the intent of the Red Flag laws is actually gun confiscation, outside of Constitutional protections.
    With the information provided by the link. Show where this isn't a credible threat.

    That being said, call me when someone's guns are confiscated who isn't a potential threat.
    He’s a Nazi. Distasteful but not illegal. Canada decided that was enough to categorize him as a member of a terrorist organization and ban him. That ban appears to be the trigger for enacting the Red Flag law. Canada’s laws are not sufficient to override Constitutional rights.
    No one has said it's illegal. But his activities are clearly enough for them to take his guns. Do you think it's possible there's more to the story that's not reported?
    Watching commies argue about stripping rights away is fucking special. When they get sent to the camps I'm sure they'll protest.
    Yes taking guns away from a dude linked to a terrorist group is akin to putting people into camps. What are you afraid of? Afraid tell take your guns because the groups you are linked to?
    Is it classified as a terror group in the US? If so how did he pass the background for a CCW?

    Shill on dumbfuck.
    Some states take guns away from the mentally ill. How is this so different? We categorize people who don’t get guns because they pose a danger to society. So what?
    Some judged to be a danger to themselves and others is will proven law. That you want someone's guns taken because you don't like their politics isn't. But that's the left.
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.
    The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.
    The best part is you know the analogy is true and can’t defend your fucktarded position.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    Yeah and let’s let lefty groups like SPLC determine who is a “hate” group and who isn’t a hate group.

    Oppose illegal immigration? You’re obviously part of a hate group.

    Opposes trannie rights? Hate group

    Hell you have people who are willing to identify Trump supporters as part of some kind of hate group.

    Antifa? No, they aren’t a hate group. BLM? Naaaah no hate there.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.
    The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.
    The best part is you know the analogy is true and can’t defend your fucktarded position.
    You are too dumb to realize the analogy is fucktarded..
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.
    The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.
    The best part is you know the analogy is true and can’t defend your fucktarded position.
    You are too dumb to realize the analogy is fucktarded..
    Says the stupid piece of shit that thinks the “General Welfare” clause is talking about Food Stamps and Section 8 vouchers.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    How about not be a part of hate groups and terrorist groups. And you get to keep your guns. Got it pooky?

    The petition also referenced his lifetime ban from Canada as a result of his membership in "an organization that may engage in terrorism."

    2001400ex said:

    Support antifa? No guns? That takes out most of the MSM and Tug leftards.

    We'll put you on the list of supporting taking away guns based on politics.
    Do you really lack this much self awareness?
    So are you saying there are only hate groups on the right then? That's a bold statement but understandable given the source.
    WTF are you talking about? I’m saying you don’t get to infringe on someone’s Constitutional rights based on their thoughts or beliefs. As unappetizing as it is, you need to wait for them to commit a crime, that legally justifies curtailing their rights.
    So if there are obvious signs someone is dangerous. We should wait until they shoot up a bunch of people? I'm not for taking away anyone's guns. But if you are a part of a known terrorist group, that's another matter. Would you feel the same if this person was Muslim and a known affiliate to Al queda?
    There are obvious signs you’re dangerous. I think we need to start by taking away your 1st ands 15th amendment rights. They 1st because you say stupid shit. The 15th because you’re too stupid to vote. We all got together and decided you having those rights poses a threat to society. So we are taking them.
    The best part is you think this is clever. Little man.
    The best part is you know the analogy is true and can’t defend your fucktarded position.
    You are too dumb to realize the analogy is fucktarded..
    Says the stupid piece of shit that thinks the “General Welfare” clause is talking about Food Stamps and Section 8 vouchers.
    I did not say that. At all. You are too dumb to realize what I said.
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