This is Petersen’s Don James Moment
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Your offense is trending up starting with the Arizona game. You faced a good D today that made a lot of mistakes, and a competent offense for about 3 quarters. You were never going to hang 50 on this defense. Why fire the only PAC 12 coach besides Helfrich to have made the playoffs? Would be a dumb move.
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So I feel like Lake is getting a huuuge pass around here. The defence has been in a steady decline and this game specifically was possibly the most guttless of "death row" ive seen in years.
The offence may suck but this game it put up a solid 31 against a decent defence so...
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Lake is the highest paid coordinator in the PAC -12. The coaches lost this game for the kids. It’s sad. If he keeps his Offensive coordinator after this season he needs to be shit canned.
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Wait... I thought at his own press conference Sark had designated himself the next Don James and then followed it up with the funeral chant thing.
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Peterman is Sarkish. Holt vs bush whom is worse?
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Lake should sell his fucking couchCanadawg said:So I feel like Lake is getting a huuuge pass around here. The defence has been in a steady decline and this game specifically was possibly the most guttless of "death row" ive seen in years.
The offence may suck but this game it put up a solid 31 against a decent defence so...
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Lake is 1.2 million + Marketing
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There is too much rot within the fan base to influence any legitimate change; we're fucked.
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At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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He's cashing checks based on his recruiting and the fact that our defensive scheme is nothing without an elite secondary. That's it.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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State Champs!!BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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Beating WSU is nothing, losing to them is catastrophic. It’s simple. Fire the OC. Change like Don James did in 1988.
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I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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Wouldn't you think by now that Will Harris has absorbed most of what Lake is teaching? It's getting kind of tiresome this duplication of roles the staff has going on. Two people for DC and two people for DB's. Just doesn't seem real efficient use of resources. We got three guys doing two jobs. I guess you could argue Coach K does outside backers but do most staffs have two backer coaches? But back to Harris. If he's not gonna take over for Lake what is the point?RoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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I think Lake is a fraud. Stanfraud totally pushed us around. That garbage faggot back hung about 160 on us. I wanted to punch him. 31 points is not bad offensive production. Hamdan isn't great either, but games are won with defense.
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Not being able to stop a run is pretty badRoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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If he was still coaching the DB's and not calling the entire defense I'd feel better about this. We had a kick ass line cook, bumped him up to head chef, and now business is down 25%.RoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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Nothing makes me more upset and I do think the transition to Lake has hurt that. That said, all Lake does is call the plays. Kwat is heavily involved with anything to do with the front 7.FirePete said:
Not being able to stop a run is pretty badRoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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Kawasaki seems to have better feel for the game than our boy jimmyRoadDawg55 said:
Nothing makes me more upset and I do think the transition to Lake has hurt that. That said, all Lake does is call the plays. Kwat is heavily involved with anything to do with the front 7.FirePete said:
Not being able to stop a run is pretty badRoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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The two DC’s is just for money purposes. Kwat wasn’t taking a cut and did nothing to deserve a pay cut. The coaches all work together. Lake just calls the plays.whuggy said:
Wouldn't you think by now that Will Harris has absorbed most of what Lake is teaching? It's getting kind of tiresome this duplication of roles the staff has going on. Two people for DC and two people for DB's. Just doesn't seem real efficient use of resources. We got three guys doing two jobs. I guess you could argue Coach K does outside backers but do most staffs have two backer coaches? But back to Harris. If he's not gonna take over for Lake what is the point?RoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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Imagine being such a faggot that you preach accountability to your players but have never owned up to your mistakes
Say what you want about Carroll, but he'll actually take blame for shit he shouldn't to defend his players, as well as his own mistakes, Petersen is a fragile pussy -
Which “Don James Moment” is it?
The opening of 1983 (year 9) when James lost to LSU by 4 scores, a team that would finish 4-7 (0-6 in SEC)?
Possibly, the end of 1983, when DJ lost the Apple Cup, at home, squandering a possible conference title; followed by an Aloha Bowl loss to a Penn State team which entered that game with four losses?
Maybe, it is one of several moments during 1985 (year 11), when the Dawgfather was smoked by BYU; beaten soundly at home by Okie St.; and lost, again at home, to both the lowly Beavers (finished 3-8) AND the Coogs (4-7)?
The aftermath of a 3-score loss to a merely mortal ‘Bama squad in the 1986 Sun Bowl (year 12), where Husky Legends Chris Chandler, Lonzell Hill and Rod Jones never found the end zone?
Perhaps more appropriately, it is October 3, 1987 (year 13), when a loss to the Oregon Ducks (finished 6-5) dropped the Dawgs from the polls for the duration of the season?
If this last instance is indeed “the Don James moment”, James himself apparently didn’t rise to the occasion, at least not immediately. He went on to lose two more games that season, including a 5-turnover affair against USC in Seattle, and tied with a 4-4-3 Arizona Wildcat team.
He followed this with a 6-5 1988 campaign (year 14), including losses to the Dux (finished 6-6), Wildcats (7-4) and Coogs (9-3).
The general situation improved from there.
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The moment I’m 1988 where he lived in his office and didn’t leave until the shit was fixed. Took responsibility.TripleRainbowDawg said:Which “Don James Moment” is it?
The opening of 1983 (year 9) when James lost to LSU by 4 scores, a team that would finish 4-7 (0-6 in SEC)?
Possibly, the end of 1983, when DJ lost the Apple Cup, at home, squandering a possible conference title; followed by an Aloha Bowl loss to a Penn State team which entered that game with four losses?
Maybe, it is one of several moments during 1985 (year 11), when the Dawgfather was smoked by BYU; beaten soundly at home by Okie St.; and lost, again at home, to both the lowly Beavers (finished 3-8) AND the Coogs (4-7)?
The aftermath of a 3-score loss to a merely mortal ‘Bama squad in the 1986 Sun Bowl (year 12), where Husky Legends Chris Chandler, Lonzell Hill and Rod Jones never found the end zone?
Perhaps more appropriately, it is October 3, 1987 (year 13), when a loss to the Oregon Ducks (finished 6-5) dropped the Dawgs from the polls for the duration of the season?
If this last instance is indeed “the Don James moment”, James himself apparently didn’t rise to the occasion, at least not immediately. He went on to lose two more games that season, including a 5-turnover affair against USC in Seattle, and tied with a 4-4-3 Arizona Wildcat team.
He followed this with a 6-5 1988 campaign (year 14), including losses to the Dux (finished 6-6), Wildcats (7-4) and Coogs (9-3).
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People have a selective memory with Don James because he won a natty and a bunch of Rose Bowls. Until Pete does that, he’s going to get questioned. And after he does, he still will. Don James never had to deal with lunatic message boards.
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Base you are on the money!Baseman said:Pete’s a charlatan. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
UW and it’s real remaining boosters don’t give enough of a shit about football.
Pete gives good press. He wins enough games and his schtick tickles enough of the right balls.
Loosing fucking sucks. Good coaches coaching good, real football programs adjust. They tweak. Not Pete.
I’ve seen what a real program looks like. This isn’t it
Yes we have seen what real programs look like we have lost to them over and over again. The Ohio St, Penn St, Alabama, and Auburns. -
He had to deal with my letter to the editorRoadDawg55 said:People have a selective memory with Don James because he won a natty and a bunch of Rose Bowls. Until Pete does that, he’s going to get questioned. And after he does, he still will. Don James never had to deal with lunatic message boards.
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He not calling it goodRoadDawg55 said:
The two DC’s is just for money purposes. Kwat wasn’t taking a cut and did nothing to deserve a pay cut. The coaches all work together. Lake just calls the plays.whuggy said:
Wouldn't you think by now that Will Harris has absorbed most of what Lake is teaching? It's getting kind of tiresome this duplication of roles the staff has going on. Two people for DC and two people for DB's. Just doesn't seem real efficient use of resources. We got three guys doing two jobs. I guess you could argue Coach K does outside backers but do most staffs have two backer coaches? But back to Harris. If he's not gonna take over for Lake what is the point?RoadDawg55 said:
I think K is the better DC, but this is stupid. Lake is a good coach who has coached some of, if not the best secondaries in the history of the program. I’m deflated from the losses, but enough with the overreactions.BleachedAnusDawg said:At this point, Lake is cashing checks based on shutting down WSU in the Apple Cup and that's about it. He's not even recruiting that well. I guess there are still a lot of people who thinking beating WSU is some kind of achievement even though the series history is one of the most lopsided "rivalries" in history.
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@RaceBannon i am pretty sure the fan base just as crazy back in the day, if not more right?
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The DBs made mistakes in the passing game against Furd. But we lost the run game to a shitty offense because our LBs can't stop or tackle shit. Gregory needs to go long before Lake.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I think Lake is a fraud. Stanfraud totally pushed us around. That garbage faggot back hung about 160 on us. I wanted to punch him. 31 points is not bad offensive production. Hamdan isn't great either, but games are won with defense.