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Shocking, Scotty and the left lied about who makes up the homeless population.
SFGbob
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Do you recall the claim that only a 1/3 of the homeless population have a mental illness or substance abuse issue? Yeah, that was all bullshit by the Homeless industrial complex.
An analysis of the underlying data performed by the LA Times came up with dramatically different results. In fact the results are nearly the opposite of what was presented to officials:
The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, which conducts the annual count, narrowly interpreted the data to produce much lower numbers. In its presentation of the results to elected officials earlier this year, the agency said only 29% of the homeless population had either a mental illness or substance abuse disorder and, therefore, 71% “did not have a serious mental illness and/or report substance use disorder.”
The Times, however, found that about 67% had either a mental illness or a substance abuse disorder. Individually, substance abuse affects 46% of those living on the streets — more than three times the rate previously reported — and mental illness, including post-traumatic stress disorder, affects 51% of those living on the streets, according to the analysis…
The findings lend statistical support to the public’s frequent association of mental illness, physical disabilities and substance abuse with homelessness.
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/10/08/la-times-mental-illness-substance-abuse-far-common/
An analysis of the underlying data performed by the LA Times came up with dramatically different results. In fact the results are nearly the opposite of what was presented to officials:
The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, which conducts the annual count, narrowly interpreted the data to produce much lower numbers. In its presentation of the results to elected officials earlier this year, the agency said only 29% of the homeless population had either a mental illness or substance abuse disorder and, therefore, 71% “did not have a serious mental illness and/or report substance use disorder.”
The Times, however, found that about 67% had either a mental illness or a substance abuse disorder. Individually, substance abuse affects 46% of those living on the streets — more than three times the rate previously reported — and mental illness, including post-traumatic stress disorder, affects 51% of those living on the streets, according to the analysis…
The findings lend statistical support to the public’s frequent association of mental illness, physical disabilities and substance abuse with homelessness.
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/10/08/la-times-mental-illness-substance-abuse-far-common/
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My bet is those numbers are low.
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MikeDamone said:
My bet is those numbers are low.
Your bet? No facts to back it up? Great post. -
Article Two Section Four has the factsCirrhosisDawg said: -
They are. It was over 8/10 in Seattle.MikeDamone said:My bet is those numbers are low.
But the party of the people won’t acknowledge it. Because it shows how they have ignored mental health and addiction issues and further illustrates that they are the party of expansion and preservation of government. Not it’s citizens.
But if people buy Their lie, they can keep saying it’s the mean rich, white guys fault and wash their hands of it. -
I'd say it's even higher than that. But heck I only dealt with them and the problems they cause for three decades.
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I agree.MikeDamone said:My bet is those numbers are low.
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Hurt's their argument that it's just down on their luck people who can't afford housing therefore we need to build more "affordable" housing. If you know that 3/4s of the homeless are drug addicts and crazy people then you quickly realize that giving them a place to live isn't the answer.salemcoog said:
They are. It was over 8/10 in Seattle.MikeDamone said:My bet is those numbers are low.
But the party of the people won’t acknowledge it. Because it shows how they have ignored mental health and addiction issues and further illustrates that they are the party of expansion and preservation of government. Not it’s citizens.
But if people buy Their lie, they can keep saying it’s the mean rich, white guys fault and wash their hands of it. -
Read the article, some of their complaints about the HUD guidelines in the survey are valid but others are bunk. One, the LAT was only looking at unsheltered homeless and was excluding the sheltered homeless population. The LAT counted people who were at any point in their life told they had a mental health, ptsd, depression etc issue but claimed the issue was not long term or permanent. Therefore, if someone was told as an adolescent they had a bout of depression but now were not suffering from any mental health issue they were still counted under the LAT numbers. They also include people who otherwise answered the questions without any notes about substance abuse or mental health issue but looked like they could have a mental illness or substance abuse issue which could be helpful or could be complete bullshit.
There's also this "But neither the UCLA study nor the Times analysis suggests that these disabilities and health conditions alone cause people to end up on the streets. Elected officials and researchers largely agree that California’s affordable housing crisis and poverty are the primary drivers of homelessness." -
1/3, you swallowed pure bullshit Scotty. 2/3s of the homeless aren't families living in their cars and motor homes.
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killer rebuttalSFGbob said:1/3, you swallowed pure bullshit Scotty. 2/3s of the homeless aren't families living in their cars and motor homes.
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It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
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What do I need to rebut? You stuck your head up your ass and claimed only 1/3 of the homeless were crazy and or drug addicts. I encourage you to say it as loudly and as often as possible. Just reveals you for the hack you are Scotty.GDS said:
killer rebuttalSFGbob said:1/3, you swallowed pure bullshit Scotty. 2/3s of the homeless aren't families living in their cars and motor homes.
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Read the article, some of their complaints about the HUD guidelines in the survey are valid but others are bunk. One, the LAT was only looking at unsheltered homeless and was excluding the sheltered homeless population. The LAT counted people who were at any point in their life told they had a mental health, ptsd, depression etc issue but claimed the issue was not long term or permanent. Therefore, if someone was told as an adolescent they had a bout of depression but now were not suffering from any mental health issue they were still counted under the LAT numbers. They also include people who otherwise answered the questions without any notes about substance abuse or mental health issue but looked like they could have a mental illness or substance abuse issue which could be helpful or could be complete bullshit.SFGbob said:
What do I need to rebut? You stuck your head up your ass and claimed only 1/3 of the homeless were crazy and or drug addicts. I encourage you to say it as loudly and as often as possible. Just reveals you for the hack you are Scotty.GDS said:
killer rebuttalSFGbob said:1/3, you swallowed pure bullshit Scotty. 2/3s of the homeless aren't families living in their cars and motor homes.
There's also this "But neither the UCLA study nor the Times analysis suggests that these disabilities and health conditions alone cause people to end up on the streets. Elected officials and researchers largely agree that California’s affordable housing crisis and poverty are the primary drivers of homelessness." -
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
Is SFGBob one of those guys that drinks a ton of alcohol at night and a ton of coffee in the morning?
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I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested. -
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit. -
Trump is getting impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it.SFGbob said:
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit. -
Great, not trying to do anything about it, except watching you and your fellow Hondo Bros lose your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump is getting impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it.SFGbob said:
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit. -
Ironically SFGbob is losing his shit calling people names and swearing.
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Yeah, I never swear unless I'm losing my shit.Gwad said:Ironically SFGbob is losing his shit calling people names and swearing.
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Are people still arguing about how corrupt their guy is? Can you guys pipe down and save it for the last half of 2020.Gwad said:Ironically SFGbob is losing his shit calling people names and swearing.
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Good for you. Acceptance is healthy. Can you tell your fellow trumptards that impugning the whistleblower, attacking the IC IG and his finding of the complaint as credible, and making absurd and irrelevant characterizations about the WBer law and impeachment are futile and embarrassing? Tia.SFGbob said:
Great, not trying to do anything about it, except watching you and your fellow Hondo Bros lose your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump is getting impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it.SFGbob said:
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit. -
Sounds like you're losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Good for you. Acceptance is healthy. Can you tell your fellow trumptards that impugning the whistleblower, attacking the IC IG and his finding of the complaint as credible, and making absurd and irrelevant characterizations about the WBer law and impeachment are futile and embarrassing? Tia.SFGbob said:
Great, not trying to do anything about it, except watching you and your fellow Hondo Bros lose your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump is getting impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it.SFGbob said:
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit.
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I knew you couldn’t reply Intelligently.SFGbob said:
Sounds like you're losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Good for you. Acceptance is healthy. Can you tell your fellow trumptards that impugning the whistleblower, attacking the IC IG and his finding of the complaint as credible, and making absurd and irrelevant characterizations about the WBer law and impeachment are futile and embarrassing? Tia.SFGbob said:
Great, not trying to do anything about it, except watching you and your fellow Hondo Bros lose your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump is getting impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it.SFGbob said:
Yes, commenting on the state's problems = losing your shit.CirrhosisDawg said:
I don’t know nor do I care other than the fact it drives idiots like you to lose your shit.SFGbob said:
Why does such a great state like California have so many homeless people El Monte? Does the state of California like typhus?CirrhosisDawg said:
Hang in there! Ts&Ps through your struggles.SFGbob said:
No, I'm just not living in denial and treating the state as if it were my boyfriend.CirrhosisDawg said:
Sounds like you are living a nightmare.SFGbob said:
That and the decriminalization of crime are what's caused the explosion here in California.greenblood said:It's almost like the reduction of more than 70% of the total mental health facilities over the last couple decades, and the increase of homeless psychopaths living on the streets might be related.
If you're a drug addict who wants to support your drug habit by committing crimes, California is the place to go. You will not be prosecuted for your drug use and if you keep your crimes limited to shoplifting and breaking into cars you won't even be arrested.
Meanwhile the Kunt with OCD regarding impeachment, he isn't losing his shit. -
I blame Trump 100% for the homeless problem.
