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SFGbob
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Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-27/who-wants-to-leave-california-berkeley-igs-poll
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited September 2019
    SFGbob said:

    Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-27/who-wants-to-leave-california-berkeley-igs-poll

    You’ve already declared your intent to move working-class-GayBob.

    Working-class-GayBob you are a fucking liar and coward.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

    You’rt a fucking idiot.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    MikeDamone said:

    2001400ex said:

    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

    You’rt a fucking idiot.
    You'rt probably right but I don't see what that has to do with housing prices in California.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,812 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    MikeDamone said:

    2001400ex said:

    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

    You’rt a fucking idiot.
    You'rt probably right but I don't see what that has to do with housing prices in California.
    Probably?

    As close as an idiot can get to an answer!
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,743 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

    Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,743 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.

    Supply and demand!!1!!11!!!!111!!!111ELEVEN!1!!!!11!!
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.

    Supply and demand!!1!!11!!!!111!!!111ELEVEN!1!!!!11!!
    It's the free market man!!!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

    Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

    Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

    That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth
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