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PAWZ in answer to your meltdowns from the floor of the House

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,802 Standard Supporter

    For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
    It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.

    Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.

    ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.

    It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.

    Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.

    ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.

    It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.

    Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.

    You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.

    I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.

    Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.

    Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,283 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.

    You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.

    I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.

    Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.

    Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
    Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.

    The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.

    Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.

    The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.

    Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.


    Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,283 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
    Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.

    Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.

    You should hang.


    Hopefully @NSA_Dawg is paying attention.


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.

    Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.

    You should hang.


    Hopefully @NSA_Dawg is paying attention.


    Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,017 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
    OK so we need every democrat congress and senate critter under oath first and we'll work up the list to president.

    There has been no crime there should be no trial. HTH
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited September 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
    Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?

    You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

    It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.





  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
    And seriously, who the fuck are you to complain about lying Hondo? Not a day goes by here where you don't lie your ass off. And spare me the bullshit about holding you to a higher standard than I do Trump. Yes, Trump lies all the fucking time but then again so do you. Neither one of us can do anything about Trump's lies, you have complete control over your own and yet you lie your ass off her nearly every day.

    Heal yourself first Kunt.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,283 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:


    Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?


    You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

    It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.






    It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,283 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
    No.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited September 2019
    pawz said:


    It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
    Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.

    Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,802 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.

    You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.

    I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.

    Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.

    Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
    Because you actually attempted to provide an explanation, I won't beat on you right now.

    I'm cool like dat.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Because you actually attempted to provide an explanation, I won't beat on you right now.

    I'm cool like dat.

    I laugh at the drivel from the others in response lol.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    OK so we need every democrat congress and senate critter under oath first and we'll work up the list to president.

    There has been no crime there should be no trial. HTH
    Get rid of all of them. I'm fine with that. But you gotta include Republicans too
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?

    You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

    It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.





    I didn't say I want to get him under oath idiot. I said that's the Democrats plan. You seriously are a fucking idiot and can't read for shit. I didn't read the rest of your post.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.

    Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.

    ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.

    It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.

    Of all the trumptrash on the tug, I thought you would be the last person who would play dumb. I was wrong. Sad.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.

    Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
    That's what you celebrated during the Benghazi hearings. Why is it all of the sudden a problem now?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,819 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    That's what you celebrated during the Benghazi hearings. Why is it all of the sudden a problem now?
    Do you think you'll ever get over the butthurt about your girlfriend fucking up and losing an embassy?

    Was Obama impeached?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Do you think you'll ever get over the butthurt about your girlfriend fucking up and losing an embassy?

    Was Obama impeached?
    Do you ever think your news source lied to you as it screamed about stand down order and other bullshit lies?
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