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DJDuck
DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
edited September 2019 in Tug Tavern
You utter clowns’! Politifact trips all over themselves in rush to label Trump’s accurate summary of Ralph Northam’s abortion comments ‘false’


https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/09/09/you-utter-clowns-politifact-trips-all-over-themselves-in-rush-to-label-trumps-accurate-summary-of-ralph-northams-abortion-comments-false/


‘THIS is collusion’! WaPo’s fact check of Joe Biden’s Iraq War comments is outrageous even for them


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/09/09/this-is-collusion-wapos-fact-check-of-joe-bidens-iraq-war-comments-is-outrageous-even-for-them/

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    You ok there hoss? Worried bout you.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    You should be worried about moron libs that believe this crap, but thanks. It means a lot that you care.
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    2001400ex said:

    You ok there hoss? Worried bout you.

    Stick your head in a bucket of water for 5 minutes.
    Then I'll care.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    How do you fall for this shit all the time deej? Trump mischaracterized what the governor said and politifact correctly called his statement false. Never seen someone fall for this shit as often as you do...
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    For crying out loud Scott you are and always have been an ignorant lying moron.

    Here ims Northam on Infanticide.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    For crying out loud Scott you are and always have been an ignorant lying moron.

    Here ims Northam on Infanticide.

    Here ims? Engwish pwease
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    GDS said:

    How do you fall for this shit all the time deej? Trump mischaracterized what the governor said and politifact correctly called his statement false. Never seen someone fall for this shit as often as you do...


    Fall for what you moron..........the truth.

    Politifact’s Gaslighting on Trump, Northam, and Abortion

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/politifacts-gaslighting-on-trump-northam-and-abortion/

    Scott runs cover for racist Ralph Northam AND Infanticide.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    How do you fall for this shit all the time deej? Trump mischaracterized what the governor said and politifact correctly called his statement false. Never seen someone fall for this shit as often as you do...


    Fall for what you moron..........the truth.

    Politifact’s Gaslighting on Trump, Northam, and Abortion

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/politifacts-gaslighting-on-trump-northam-and-abortion/

    Scott runs cover for racist Ralph Northam AND Infanticide.
    JFC - Northam is talking about situations in which the fetus isn't viable. It's in the quote idiot. You know what not viable means right? It's not the doctor and mother that will decide if the baby will live or not. It's the doctor and mother deciding how best to care for a baby that's born but for whatever reason is not viable....infanticide...moron.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    GDS said:

    DJDuck said:

    For crying out loud Scott you are and always have been an ignorant lying moron.

    Here ims Northam on Infanticide.

    Here ims? Engwish pwease
    Boy internet spellchecker as always. You are just too sharp. “is”

    Obsessed much?😂😂😂
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    Boy you really got me this time Scott. 😂😂😂
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    Again obfuscating to draw attention away from another one of your ignorant and moronic statements. 😂
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    Start at 4 minutes

    REBUTTAL: The Left’s EVIL Infanticide Agenda!

    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/left-infanticide-agenda/
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited September 2019
    GDS said:

    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    How do you fall for this shit all the time deej? Trump mischaracterized what the governor said and politifact correctly called his statement false. Never seen someone fall for this shit as often as you do...


    Fall for what you moron..........the truth.

    Politifact’s Gaslighting on Trump, Northam, and Abortion

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/politifacts-gaslighting-on-trump-northam-and-abortion/

    Scott runs cover for racist Ralph Northam AND Infanticide.
    JFC - Northam is talking about situations in which the fetus isn't viable. It's in the quote idiot. You know what not viable means right? It's not the doctor and mother that will decide if the baby will live or not. It's the doctor and mother deciding how best to care for a baby that's born but for whatever reason is not viable....infanticide...moron.
    But the bill he was being asked about said nothing about the viability of the fetus. It would have allowed for the woman to get an abortion when she was just minutes from giving birth and it would have allowed her to do so for reasons of "mental health." It also would have changed the certification process to allow such an abortion from 3 doctors to one doctor.

    He was being asked specifically about the bill being pushed by Kathy Tran


    The story begins on Jan. 28 when a subcommittee of the Virginia's House of Delegates was considering a Democrat-backed bill that would have loosened the state’s abortion laws in all stages of pregnancy. Much of the debate, however, focused on late-term abortions.

    Virginia allows third-trimester abortions in hospitals if three physicians certify that a continued pregnancy would "likely" kill the woman or "substantially and irremediably" harm her mental or physical health. The proposed bill, which was defeated, would have lowered the authorization from three physicians to one. That doctor only would have to certify that the pregnancy would damage a woman’s health. The "substantial and irremediable" threshold would have been repealed.

    The bill’s sponsor - Del. Kathy Tran, D-Fairfax - faced tough questioning from Republicans on the third-trimester proposals. Asked if the legislation would allow a woman who is dilating to get an abortion, she said, "My bill would allow that. Yes."



  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    edited September 2019
    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
    Did Tran's bill only allow for a 3rd trimester abortion for non-viable babies?
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    Tulsi Gabbard just came out against third trimester abortions just like Roe.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
    Did Tran's bill only allow for a 3rd trimester abortion for non-viable babies?
    This thread isn't about Tran's bill, it's about Northam's comment where he specifically referenced non viable fetuses...or as Deej refers to it - infanticide. Northam is even referring to current law in his comments as he notes it requires more than one physician to certify. Do you think it's infanticide for a mother and doctor to discuss best course of treatment for a baby born with a terminal condition?
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    It wasn’t necessarily about non viable fetuses moron. Letting a child die that has been born IS Infanticide. You are fucked up.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/10/watch-nurse-testifies-infants-surviving-abortion-left-to-die-in-hospital-soiled-utility-room/
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
    Did Tran's bill only allow for a 3rd trimester abortion for non-viable babies?
    This thread isn't about Tran's bill, it's about Northam's comment where he specifically referenced non viable fetuses...or as Deej refers to it - infanticide. Northam is even referring to current law in his comments as he notes it requires more than one physician to certify. Do you think it's infanticide for a mother and doctor to discuss best course of treatment for a baby born with a terminal condition?
    What an absolute Kunt.

    He was being asked specifically about Tran’s bill when he made the comment you fucking hack.


    He was being asked if he supported her bill he wasn’t asked if he supported the existing law.

  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTopSKo1xs

    You moron

    When Northam was talking about 3rd trimester abortion he said the “fetus MAY not be viable and May have a deformity. So if a “ fetus May not be viable but they don’t know or MAY have a deformity like spinabifida they can kill it. Which would lead to the obvious that you could kill any fetus for any reason.

    And when the HELL HAS IT BEEN OK to kill a child that has been born whether it has a deformity or not.

    Nuts like you are not only ghouls but cheapen the lives of the handicapped but also leads to discrimination of those that are handicapped as if their lives are not quite as important as those of Scott and his kids. You are a pretty lousy “person”.

  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
    Did Tran's bill only allow for a 3rd trimester abortion for non-viable babies?
    This thread isn't about Tran's bill, it's about Northam's comment where he specifically referenced non viable fetuses...or as Deej refers to it - infanticide. Northam is even referring to current law in his comments as he notes it requires more than one physician to certify. Do you think it's infanticide for a mother and doctor to discuss best course of treatment for a baby born with a terminal condition?
    What an absolute Kunt.

    He was being asked specifically about Tran’s bill when he made the comment you fucking hack.


    He was being asked if he supported her bill he wasn’t asked if he supported the existing law.

    But as politicians do he dodged the question and referenced current Virginia law

    Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran

    There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way.

    So he says he can’t speak for Tran and he specifically addresses requiring consent of multiple physicians as per current Virginia law.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTopSKo1xs

    You moron

    When Northam was talking about 3rd trimester abortion he said the “fetus MAY not be viable and May have a deformity. So if a “ fetus May not be viable but they don’t know or MAY have a deformity like spinabifida they can kill it. Which would lead to the obvious that you could kill any fetus for any reason.

    And when the HELL HAS IT BEEN OK to kill a child that has been born whether it has a deformity or not.

    Nuts like you are not only ghouls but cheapen the lives of the handicapped but also leads to discrimination of those that are handicapped as if their lives are not quite as important as those of Scott and his kids. You are a pretty lousy “person”.

    It’s not ok to kill a child. Never has been never will be. But unfortunately since neither you, nor I, nor Northam are god there are fetuses which have conditions that are incompatible with life. When babies are born with terminal condition and they succumb to their condition minutes or hours after birth that’s not the doctor killing them but the baby dying due to said condition.

    If I were god I’d make sure every baby was born healthy and that every boy would grow to be at least 6’4” and run a 4.4 40, and every female would be a knockout and look like Kate Upton. I’d also give you a modicum of intelligence so you didn’t fall for fake news all the time. Unfortunately for both you and I’m not god thus we will continue to have fetuses with neonatal terminal conditions and I trust doctors and parents to continue to make the best decision as to how to care...and when they unfortunately don’t make it it’s not because anyone “killed” them.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    Northam wasn’t talking about just letting terminal babies die after they are born. They are not God either but they are acting like god, These children are human beings you ghoul. Do we let children die because they have a deformity? That was one category that Northam identified.

    It looks like you are alright with letting a baby die that has been born with a deformity. Do these kids have the same right to life as your children. When a child is born they have the same protections as any of us. You and the doctors are the ones that want to play God. I knew you were pretty despicable but you are even worse than I thought.

    Your attitude cheapens and leads to descrimination of handicapped children. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Nurse: I Witnessed the Infanticide
    Ralph Northam Defended

    https://www.lucianne.com/2019/09/10/nurse_i_witnessed_the_infanticidebr_ralph_northam_defended_14791.html

    You would be a Gosnell supporter.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    American Medical Association Journal of Ethics


    The Neonate as a Patient
    “A fundamental component of the ethical concept of the previable fetus as a patient is that this moral status is a function of the pregnant woman's autonomous decision to confer it.

    In contrast, infants born alive in the presence of health care professionals become patients independently of the autonomy of their parents.

    This is because the general ethical concept of being a patient requires only that the human being in question be presented to a physician or other health care professional and that there exist clinical interventions that are reliably expected to result in the greater balance of clinical goods over clinical harms to that human being.

    Moreover, parents of a liveborn infant become his or her moral fiduciaries, and they, too, are obligated to protect and promote the health-related interests of their child.

    Thus, a liveborn infant simultaneously acquires two kinds of mutually reinforcing moral status—one as a patient of health care professionals to whom the infant is presented and a second as a child of his or her parents. As their child's fiduciaries, parents have a beneficence-based obligation to authorize clinical intervention when their child's health care professionals have beneficence-based obligations to intervene “
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    Can you resuscitate non-viable babies?

    of course - many instances where a baby has a prenatal terminal diagnosis but can "live" for a few days hooked up to neonatal devices.
    Did Tran's bill only allow for a 3rd trimester abortion for non-viable babies?
    This thread isn't about Tran's bill, it's about Northam's comment where he specifically referenced non viable fetuses...or as Deej refers to it - infanticide. Northam is even referring to current law in his comments as he notes it requires more than one physician to certify. Do you think it's infanticide for a mother and doctor to discuss best course of treatment for a baby born with a terminal condition?
    What an absolute Kunt.

    He was being asked specifically about Tran’s bill when he made the comment you fucking hack.


    He was being asked if he supported her bill he wasn’t asked if he supported the existing law.

    But as politicians do he dodged the question and referenced current Virginia law

    Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran

    There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way.

    So he says he can’t speak for Tran and he specifically addresses requiring consent of multiple physicians as per current Virginia law.
    Work the balls cocksucker, work the balls

    He was asked if he supported her bill.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    The reason Politifact and all the other “fact checking” websites lie about all of this is because they are trying to censor what people see on Facebook and other social media...when these frauds label something as not true then it allows Facebook and the other social media sites to block those stories from people.

    You know, the open-minded everyone is allowed to have an opinion Left...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The reason Politifact and all the other “fact checking” websites lie about all of this is because they are trying to censor what people see on Facebook and other social media...when these frauds label something as not true then it allows Facebook and the other social media sites to block those stories from people.

    You know, the open-minded everyone is allowed to have an opinion Left...

    Got any facts to back that up?
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    2001400ex said:

    The reason Politifact and all the other “fact checking” websites lie about all of this is because they are trying to censor what people see on Facebook and other social media...when these frauds label something as not true then it allows Facebook and the other social media sites to block those stories from people.

    You know, the open-minded everyone is allowed to have an opinion Left...

    Got any facts to back that up?
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/15/we-started-fact-checking-partnership-facebook-year/

    GFY.