Where Exactly Are We Headed: A Response
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Did you ever consider it's because those were the first games of the season and not bowl games?digits said:
That doesn't change the fact that he was beating superior teams with inferior talent @ Boise St. in big games. What's especially concerning is his losses @ UW in said games are not just one thing, but it's a combination of several: Poor game/coaching/player preparation (i.e. Slow starts, gameplan, etc.), Beta mentality, and bad clock/game management.backthepack said:
It was basically their only game of the yeardigits said:
This. This is what doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Petersen won more big games @ Boise St than he has here. Are you telling me Boise St had better talent than we? do? There's no fucking way. Whatever he is doing to prepare the team, the coaches, and himself for these big games is not working. He needs to figure it out yesterday because the trend has already formed.dhdawg said:Pete had inferior talent at Boise and it never mattered.
Getting embarrassed 3 straight games is about more than just talent. It's coaching. It's a mentality.
1) Boise often opened their season against those teams, bowl games are different (for a myriad of obvious reasons)digits said:
That doesn't change the fact that he was beating superior teams with inferior talent @ Boise St. in big games. What's especially concerning is his losses @ UW in said games are not just one thing, but it's a combination of several: Poor game/coaching/player preparation (i.e. Slow starts, gameplan, etc.), Beta mentality, and bad clock/game management.backthepack said:
It was basically their only game of the yeardigits said:
This. This is what doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Petersen won more big games @ Boise St than he has here. Are you telling me Boise St had better talent than we? do? There's no fucking way. Whatever he is doing to prepare the team, the coaches, and himself for these big games is not working. He needs to figure it out yesterday because the trend has already formed.dhdawg said:Pete had inferior talent at Boise and it never mattered.
Getting embarrassed 3 straight games is about more than just talent. It's coaching. It's a mentality.
2) CP's record vs. P5 teams w/ Kellen Moore: 6-0, w/o KM: 3-4.
Yes they were better but it makes a world of difference when you have a great college quarterback. UW will be better in that arena for the next 5 years. -
DoogCourics said:Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Good analysis @DoogCourics
I'd say just based on my limited knowledge that at the least, the 16 needs to turn into a 7 or 8 to really get to the playoff contender/legititmate top 5 elite status. Maybe 10 but no lower. Oregon under Kelly was around 10-12 in that metric IIRC. I'm way too lazy to research it.
So can that be done with the recruiting church boy strategy? You almost need some assholes who steal cars or prima donnas
@Fire_Marshall_Bill , another question and another answer.
To address this, I bring forth Clemson under Dabo Sweeney as the example. They have often been cited as a good comparison to UW in regards to history, resources, etc.
Clemson Recruiting:
2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2011 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 20 Three Stars - 87.17 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2012 Recruiting Class - 20th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 1 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.46 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
2014 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.69 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2015 Recruiting Class - 9th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 89.12 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 1 Five Star - 11 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.10 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 7th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 5 Three Stars - 93.45 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 5th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 14 Three Stars - 90.40 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
As you can see Clemson toiled in the 15th or worse range for the first 6 years before they finally had their big break thru in 2015. During that time their average player was less than 89 on the composite rating. But they continued to stack double digit Blue Chip recruits each year which got them to above 50% Blue Chip Ratio. As soon as that class in year 7 popped, they made the Playoffs the following 4 years. Even then, only a couple of those classes were top 10 in the country. But the amount of Blue Chips and the quality of the average player (above 90 in the composite) has stayed consistent.
Add in Dabo's coaching and development, and you have a fucking juggernaut.
Washington Recruiting for Comparison:
2015 Recruiting Class - 26th in Country - 5 Four Stars - 18 Three Stars - 85.77 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 29th in Country - 7 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 87.42 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 9 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.45 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 90.21 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 89.74 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
Likely an additional 2-3 Blue Chip will be added in this 2019 Class.
The first 5 years under Petersen has followed the same 5 year trend under Swinney in regards to talent acquisition. Yes, Petersen is leveling up the team in regards to pure talent.
The big difference is that after Dabo lost his NY6 Bowl in year 3, he started winning all his bowl games. He had the right staff, right philosophies, and right coaching to use that talent to win.
That's the major failing of Pete to this point.
Bump for Clemson winning the Championship.
Even the guys who think rankings are stupid, recruiting is for fags, or you just need to coach them up, even they could see the athletes on the field last night. A defense who was losing the time of possession battle by a gigantic margin for 3 quarters was rotating in players and staying fresh. True frosh QB and WR just dominating an amazing defense. The talent on display was beautiful.
Saw multiple posts about how Clemson has top 3 talent and UW isn't on that level. This is just another reminder:
- It took Dabo 8 classes before he broke the 90 average composite score
- Only 4 of 11 classes have been in the top 10, and none have been higher than 5th
- It took until the 4th year to hit double digit Blue Chippers
The key to Clemson's ascension has been the stacking of double digit blue chip recruits in the last 8 straight classes.
UW does not have the same level of talent as Clemson. But Pete has been building the foundation of depth of talent that is needed. The UW classes are following the same path that the Clemson classes took.
Pete now needs to start closing the elite level players to add to the talent depth, and needs to start winning his big bowl games and Power 5 OOC games. -
DoogCourics said:DoogCourics said:Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Good analysis @DoogCourics
I'd say just based on my limited knowledge that at the least, the 16 needs to turn into a 7 or 8 to really get to the playoff contender/legititmate top 5 elite status. Maybe 10 but no lower. Oregon under Kelly was around 10-12 in that metric IIRC. I'm way too lazy to research it.
So can that be done with the recruiting church boy strategy? You almost need some assholes who steal cars or prima donnas
@Fire_Marshall_Bill , another question and another answer.
To address this, I bring forth Clemson under Dabo Sweeney as the example. They have often been cited as a good comparison to UW in regards to history, resources, etc.
Clemson Recruiting:
2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2011 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 20 Three Stars - 87.17 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2012 Recruiting Class - 20th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 1 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.46 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
2014 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.69 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2015 Recruiting Class - 9th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 89.12 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 1 Five Star - 11 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.10 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 7th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 5 Three Stars - 93.45 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 5th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 14 Three Stars - 90.40 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
As you can see Clemson toiled in the 15th or worse range for the first 6 years before they finally had their big break thru in 2015. During that time their average player was less than 89 on the composite rating. But they continued to stack double digit Blue Chip recruits each year which got them to above 50% Blue Chip Ratio. As soon as that class in year 7 popped, they made the Playoffs the following 4 years. Even then, only a couple of those classes were top 10 in the country. But the amount of Blue Chips and the quality of the average player (above 90 in the composite) has stayed consistent.
Add in Dabo's coaching and development, and you have a fucking juggernaut.
Washington Recruiting for Comparison:
2015 Recruiting Class - 26th in Country - 5 Four Stars - 18 Three Stars - 85.77 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 29th in Country - 7 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 87.42 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 9 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.45 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 90.21 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 89.74 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
Likely an additional 2-3 Blue Chip will be added in this 2019 Class.
The first 5 years under Petersen has followed the same 5 year trend under Swinney in regards to talent acquisition. Yes, Petersen is leveling up the team in regards to pure talent.
The big difference is that after Dabo lost his NY6 Bowl in year 3, he started winning all his bowl games. He had the right staff, right philosophies, and right coaching to use that talent to win.
That's the major failing of Pete to this point.
Bump for Clemson winning the Championship.
Even the guys who think rankings are stupid, recruiting is for fags, or you just need to coach them up, even they could see the athletes on the field last night. A defense who was losing the time of possession battle by a gigantic margin for 3 quarters was rotating in players and staying fresh. True frosh QB and WR just dominating an amazing defense. The talent on display was beautiful.
Saw multiple posts about how Clemson has top 3 talent and UW isn't on that level. This is just another reminder:
- It took Dabo 8 classes before he broke the 90 average composite score
- Only 4 of 11 classes have been in the top 10, and none have been higher than 5th
- It took until the 4th year to hit double digit Blue Chippers
The key to Clemson's ascension has been the stacking of double digit blue chip recruits in the last 8 straight classes.
UW does not have the same level of talent as Clemson. But Pete has been building the foundation of depth of talent that is needed. The UW classes are following the same path that the Clemson classes took.
Pete now needs to start closing the elite level players to add to the talent depth, and needs to start winning his big bowl games and Power 5 OOC games.
Multiple radio shows or sports analyst I’ve listened to has said Clemson has landed consistent top 3 classes and have the same talent as Bama, which is why they whipped them so good and why no one else will be able to do the same.
As my previous posts have clearly demonstrated, this doesn't check out. They’ve only had 1 top 5 class and 4 top 10 classes in 11 years, with the average being the 15th best class. Since their breakthrough in 2015, their average class has been the 10th best class. Top 3 classes my ass.
So I decided to Check the 5 year team talent composite. Nothing is available prior to 2015, but that's the moment of their breakthrough so it will let us know the talent level needed to be one of the elite's when you have an elite coach:
Lost National Championship 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip
Lost in Semi Finals to Bama 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Star - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip
Over those 5 years Bama has had 63 Blue Chip players per year with 12 Five Stars per year and a 93 Average Composite Score per year.
You don't have to be Bama to win a title. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have Elite coaching.
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Now, stop with the coaching blunders and become the Elite coach that we? thought Petersen was, land some fucking Elite players and stop closing with a whimper.
For Comparison, UW's Talent Composite the last few years.
2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip
2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip
2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip
2019 - Projected 39 Blue Chip with a chance at 5 more. -
All star defensive line and a generational QB and badda bing print the bumper stickers
The 91 Huskies had both an O line and D line to die for and the bloody big balls of Billy Joe Hobart
Running back by committee and a couple of small fast wideouts
That's been the theme the last few days - if we need to be Bama to beat Bama we have the wrong coach
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Our 2019 was Pete’s 5th year. 2013, not even listed in @DoogCourics stats, was Dabo’s 5th year.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative ya fucks. -
That 91 squad’s LBs and pass rush did not suck. Most importantly, DJ did everything he could to win the game. Has Peterman? I say no.RaceBannon said:All star defensive line and a generational QB and badda bing print the bumper stickers
The 91 Huskies had both an O line and D line to die for and the bloody big balls of Billy Joe Hobart
Running back by committee and a couple of small fast wideouts
That's been the theme the last few days - if we need to be Bama to beat Bama we have the wrong coach
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Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
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I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!) -
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwolf hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance. -
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance. -
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
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If Wuff ever shit on us*, I haven't seen it. He wants to do his own thing without the taint of the Tug, whatever, God bless.DoogCourics said:
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
But agree, that forum is cataclysmic
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My bad. Poont of clarification:GrundleStiltzkin said:
If Wuff ever shit on us*, I haven't seen it. He wants to do his own thing without the taint of the Tug, whatever, God bless.DoogCourics said:
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
But agree, that forum is cataclysmic
I didn’t mean took a big steamy shit in the way Chest did, but rather in the way the great poets would mean it.
Just took off and never gave a second glance back. Like we were the fat chick he fucked but wouldn’t tell his friends about.
I understand the desire to cleanse himself of the Tug and much of the bullshit that comes with HH. Don’t fault him for that. Just miss him is all. -
Wuff seems like a Good Guy™, despite prolly putting me into a reeducation camp in a drive-in theater lot somewhere, once the revolution comes.DoogCourics said:
My bad. Poont of clarification:GrundleStiltzkin said:
If Wuff ever shit on us*, I haven't seen it. He wants to do his own thing without the taint of the Tug, whatever, God bless.DoogCourics said:
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
But agree, that forum is cataclysmic
I didn’t mean took a big steamy shit in the way Chest did, but rather in the way the great poets would mean it.
Just that off and never gave a second glance back. Like we were the fat chick he fucked but wouldn’t tell his friends about.
I understand the desire to cleanse himself of the Tug and much of the bullshit that comes with HH. Don’t fault him for that. Just miss him is all. -
Agreed on all fronts.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Wuff seems like a Good Guy™, despite prolly putting me into a reeducation camp in a drive-in theater lot somewhere, once the revolution comes.DoogCourics said:
My bad. Poont of clarification:GrundleStiltzkin said:
If Wuff ever shit on us*, I haven't seen it. He wants to do his own thing without the taint of the Tug, whatever, God bless.DoogCourics said:
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
But agree, that forum is cataclysmic
I didn’t mean took a big steamy shit in the way Chest did, but rather in the way the great poets would mean it.
Just that off and never gave a second glance back. Like we were the fat chick he fucked but wouldn’t tell his friends about.
I understand the desire to cleanse himself of the Tug and much of the bullshit that comes with HH. Don’t fault him for that. Just miss him is all. -
All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
-
I'll also accept some of those season tickets the guys at BDTW are giving out.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
And nudes.
And real money.
And fine whiskey. -
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
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To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
-
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
-
As I say, HCH is not for everyone.GrundleStiltzkin said:
If Wuff ever shit on us*, I haven't seen it. He wants to do his own thing without the taint of the Tug, whatever, God bless.DoogCourics said:
He took a big steamy shit on all of us and then left for what he considers greener pastures. They all did, but it’s chill with me.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Hahah, yeah, not sure why @AIRWOLF shit on your chest for good luckDoogCourics said:
Not even sure if I understand it myself. But offseason is offseason and this was the last peace before the real season kicks in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I understood very little of this, but twatted nonetheless.DoogCourics said:Update now that the 2019 season numbers are out.
Clemson Recruiting Under Sweeney (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite (247 Unavailable) - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite (247 Unavailable)- 6 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
7th Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
8th Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average Composite - 14 Blue Chip
9th Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
10th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
11th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
12th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class (Thus Far) - 1st in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 92.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
Washington Recruiting Under Petersen (Full Classes)
1st Class - 2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2nd Class - 2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
3rd Class - 2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average Composite - 8 Blue Chip
4th Class - 2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
5th Class - 2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average Composite - 16 Blue Chip
6th Class - 2020 Recruiting Class - 12th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.47 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
Now for how much talent is currently stacked throughout the roster:
Clemson Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
8th Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip - Lost National Championship
9th Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
10th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Lost in Semi Finals to Bama
11th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Stars - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip - Won National Championship
12th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 7 Five Stars - 33 Four Stars - 33 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or Less) - 89.44 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip - Ranked #1 In Preseason Polls
You don't have to be Bama to win a title and Clemson has proven it twice.. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have elite coaching and development.
Washington Composite Team Talent Rankings (There are no 247 Only Rankings)
2nd Year As Coach - 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
3rd Year As Coach - 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip - Lost Peach Bowl to Alabama
4th Year As Coach - 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip - Lost Fiesta Bowl to Penn State
5th Year As Coach - 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip - Lost Rose Bowl to Ohio State
6th Year As Coach - 2019: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 18th in Country - 1 Five Star - 41 Four Stars - 40 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or Less) - 88.26 Average Composite Score - 42 Blue Chip - Ranked #13 in Preseason Polls
TL:DR
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Kill the coaching blunders and become the elite coach that that Petersen is, then land some fucking elite players like Smalls, Banks, and all of the 2021 kids.
@uzi, if you don't like the format go fuck yourself (AKA would you want to put this in a spreadsheet for me because I again wasn't able to put together a spreadsheet for it because we are "entertaining" guests and every time I get on my computer I get fucking glared at.... I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUR DUMBFUCK FRIENDS AND YOU HATE THEM AS MUCH AS I DO HONEY!)
Most definitely trite, assuredly passé, definitely not facile.
Methinks Airwold hated Chest’s version and how much he talks about it on his pod (who wouldn’t?) and thus doesn’t give mine a chance.
He’s a good guy with good content. But he sucks for leaving and I’ve given up on scrolling through that shit format forum.
But agree, that forum is cataclysmic -
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them.
Ps: Articles on analytics looks to be their bread & butter. -
Thanks for the reassurance. I must admit I've been concerned we'd lose a bit of our "serious" football analysis to the BD2W movement. I've lurked a bit there and it definitely has a far different flavor than HH. Hopefully, you're right and most of the market share they take is from DM.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them. -
It's funny watching the HCH flavor mixing with the more earnest audience they have.YellowSnow said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I must admit I've been concerned we'd lose a bit of our "serious" football analysis to the BD2W movement. I've lurked a bit there and it definitely has a far different flavor than HH. Hopefully, you're right and most of the market share they take is from DM.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them.
Regarding market share, this isn't a zero sum game right now. The rising program has and will continue to bring in new fans and old ones off the sidelines. That's one thing that Chest got wrong on his way out.
And regarding your earlier concern on #filth, the great thing about the low moderation ethos we* have, the filth finds its own level over tim. -
Further more, every bored here has its own culture and folks seem to respeck that for the most part. My bored got started as the outlet for those who needed a good OT space but hated the Tug. Seems to be going fine.GrundleStiltzkin said:
It's funny watching the HCH flavor mixing with the more earnest audience they have.YellowSnow said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I must admit I've been concerned we'd lose a bit of our "serious" football analysis to the BD2W movement. I've lurked a bit there and it definitely has a far different flavor than HH. Hopefully, you're right and most of the market share they take is from DM.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them.
Regarding market share, this isn't a zero sum game right now. The rising program has and will continue to bring in new fans and old ones off the sidelines. That's one thing that Chest got wrong on his way out.
And regarding your earlier concern on #filth, the great thing about the low moderation ethos we* have, the filth finds its own level over tim. -
I don't get people like that. I take breaks from forums that get tiresome. The Tug is a place that gets extremely repetitive, is entirely monolithic in POV, and often dominated by 4 or 5 posters. Sometimes I like it; sometimes it's a real snoozer. I leave when I'm not having fun anymore. I go back when I feel like it. Simple.YellowSnow said:
Further more, every bored here has its own culture and folks seem to respeck that for the most part. My bored got started as the outlet for those who needed a good OT space but hated the Tug. Seems to be going fine.GrundleStiltzkin said:
It's funny watching the HCH flavor mixing with the more earnest audience they have.YellowSnow said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I must admit I've been concerned we'd lose a bit of our "serious" football analysis to the BD2W movement. I've lurked a bit there and it definitely has a far different flavor than HH. Hopefully, you're right and most of the market share they take is from DM.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them.
Regarding market share, this isn't a zero sum game right now. The rising program has and will continue to bring in new fans and old ones off the sidelines. That's one thing that Chest got wrong on his way out.
And regarding your earlier concern on #filth, the great thing about the low moderation ethos we* have, the filth finds its own level over tim.
Same with the Duck forum. Now that DJ fag dick is overrunning the place, I just drive by.
As a result I'm on the Husky and CFB and Yella forums moar. These days. For now.
That's the beauty of this place.
One thing I have no patience for is pussies who bitch to the mods. Those nutless twats should leave and never come back.
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The season saves us from the Tug.creepycoug said:
I don't get people like that. I take breaks from forums that get tiresome. The Tug is a place that gets extremely repetitive, is entirely monolithic in POV, and often dominated by 4 or 5 posters. Sometimes I like it; sometimes it's a real snoozer. I leave when I'm not having fun anymore. I go back when I feel like it. Simple.YellowSnow said:
Further more, every bored here has its own culture and folks seem to respeck that for the most part. My bored got started as the outlet for those who needed a good OT space but hated the Tug. Seems to be going fine.GrundleStiltzkin said:
It's funny watching the HCH flavor mixing with the more earnest audience they have.YellowSnow said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I must admit I've been concerned we'd lose a bit of our "serious" football analysis to the BD2W movement. I've lurked a bit there and it definitely has a far different flavor than HH. Hopefully, you're right and most of the market share they take is from DM.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Meh, me not worried. There's some HCH crossover to BD2W but it looks to me to have much more dawgman crossover, plus a collection of Husky twitter. That is, people to have at most lurked here and would never be poasters. They're doing a different thing. For me, it's kinda boring and the forum platform itself sucks real bad. But it was fun seeing sonics shitting on Echlund the other day. Sorry, no link, I don't expect to ever find that poast again.YellowSnow said:
I'm a bit concerned Balkanization of the Half Brain movement. Should we really be splitting our forces like this? It seems like the #filth has gotten to be too much for some.GrundleStiltzkin said:
To be fair, it might be there. But you won't actually find it on those boreds.YellowSnow said:
Strong agreement here. Doug Courics is our MVP right now. You can't find this kind of content on BD2W. You just can't.Swaye said:All I know is @DoogCourics is doing the Lord's work around this shit hole and deserves a raise. Expect Lemon Party and 20 Sven bucks in your inbox tomorrow.
Anyhow, I'm glad that crowd has found a place. Dawgspeed to them.
Regarding market share, this isn't a zero sum game right now. The rising program has and will continue to bring in new fans and old ones off the sidelines. That's one thing that Chest got wrong on his way out.
And regarding your earlier concern on #filth, the great thing about the low moderation ethos we* have, the filth finds its own level over tim.
Same with the Duck forum. Now that DJ fag dick is overrunning the place, I just drive by.
As a result I'm on the Husky and CFB and Yella forums moar. These days. For now.
That's the beauty of this place.
One thing I have no patience for is pussies who bitch to the mods. Those nutless twats should leave and never come back. -
People actually bitch to the mods here? JFC -- LEAVE!!!creepycoug said:
One thing I have no patience for is pussies who bitch to the mods. Those nutless twats should leave and never come back. -
You don't want to answer Derek's emails for a day.LesGrossman said:
People actually bitch to the mods here? JFC -- LEAVE!!!creepycoug said:
One thing I have no patience for is pussies who bitch to the mods. Those nutless twats should leave and never come back. -
Poont of emphasis, you need an elite QB and QB coaching to mimic the Clemson model. Neither of which Petermen has displayed at this poont. Skinny could be great and could be gone after one year. He could be mediocre and be here two. If Petermen needs a Huard to drop into his lap continuously then we have an issue. The QB room mismanagement really is starting to concern me beyond Browning sucks and could be an ongoing limiting issue instead of just a browning thing.DoogCourics said:DoogCourics said:DoogCourics said:Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Good analysis @DoogCourics
I'd say just based on my limited knowledge that at the least, the 16 needs to turn into a 7 or 8 to really get to the playoff contender/legititmate top 5 elite status. Maybe 10 but no lower. Oregon under Kelly was around 10-12 in that metric IIRC. I'm way too lazy to research it.
So can that be done with the recruiting church boy strategy? You almost need some assholes who steal cars or prima donnas
@Fire_Marshall_Bill , another question and another answer.
To address this, I bring forth Clemson under Dabo Sweeney as the example. They have often been cited as a good comparison to UW in regards to history, resources, etc.
Clemson Recruiting:
2009 Recruiting Class - 36th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 89.91 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2010 Recruiting Class - 27th in Country - 6 Four Stars - 15 Three Stars - 85.94 Average Composite - 6 Blue Chip
2011 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 20 Three Stars - 87.17 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2012 Recruiting Class - 20th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 89.03 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 1 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.46 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
2014 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.69 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2015 Recruiting Class - 9th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 9 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 89.12 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 1 Five Star - 11 Four Stars - 8 Three Stars - 90.30 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.10 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 7th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 5 Three Stars - 93.45 Average Composite - 12 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 5th in Country - 2 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 14 Three Stars - 90.40 Average Composite - 13 Blue Chip
As you can see Clemson toiled in the 15th or worse range for the first 6 years before they finally had their big break thru in 2015. During that time their average player was less than 89 on the composite rating. But they continued to stack double digit Blue Chip recruits each year which got them to above 50% Blue Chip Ratio. As soon as that class in year 7 popped, they made the Playoffs the following 4 years. Even then, only a couple of those classes were top 10 in the country. But the amount of Blue Chips and the quality of the average player (above 90 in the composite) has stayed consistent.
Add in Dabo's coaching and development, and you have a fucking juggernaut.
Washington Recruiting for Comparison:
2015 Recruiting Class - 26th in Country - 5 Four Stars - 18 Three Stars - 85.77 Average Composite - 5 Blue Chip
2016 Recruiting Class - 29th in Country - 7 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 87.42 Average Composite - 7 Blue Chip
2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 9 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.45 Average Composite - 9 Blue Chip
2018 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 10 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 90.21 Average Composite - 10 Blue Chip
2019 Recruiting Class - 16th in Country - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 89.74 Average Composite - 11 Blue Chip
Likely an additional 2-3 Blue Chip will be added in this 2019 Class.
The first 5 years under Petersen has followed the same 5 year trend under Swinney in regards to talent acquisition. Yes, Petersen is leveling up the team in regards to pure talent.
The big difference is that after Dabo lost his NY6 Bowl in year 3, he started winning all his bowl games. He had the right staff, right philosophies, and right coaching to use that talent to win.
That's the major failing of Pete to this point.
Bump for Clemson winning the Championship.
Even the guys who think rankings are stupid, recruiting is for fags, or you just need to coach them up, even they could see the athletes on the field last night. A defense who was losing the time of possession battle by a gigantic margin for 3 quarters was rotating in players and staying fresh. True frosh QB and WR just dominating an amazing defense. The talent on display was beautiful.
Saw multiple posts about how Clemson has top 3 talent and UW isn't on that level. This is just another reminder:
- It took Dabo 8 classes before he broke the 90 average composite score
- Only 4 of 11 classes have been in the top 10, and none have been higher than 5th
- It took until the 4th year to hit double digit Blue Chippers
The key to Clemson's ascension has been the stacking of double digit blue chip recruits in the last 8 straight classes.
UW does not have the same level of talent as Clemson. But Pete has been building the foundation of depth of talent that is needed. The UW classes are following the same path that the Clemson classes took.
Pete now needs to start closing the elite level players to add to the talent depth, and needs to start winning his big bowl games and Power 5 OOC games.
Multiple radio shows or sports analyst I’ve listened to has said Clemson has landed consistent top 3 classes and have the same talent as Bama, which is why they whipped them so good and why no one else will be able to do the same.
As my previous posts have clearly demonstrated, this doesn't check out. They’ve only had 1 top 5 class and 4 top 10 classes in 11 years, with the average being the 15th best class. Since their breakthrough in 2015, their average class has been the 10th best class. Top 3 classes my ass.
So I decided to Check the 5 year team talent composite. Nothing is available prior to 2015, but that's the moment of their breakthrough so it will let us know the talent level needed to be one of the elite's when you have an elite coach:
Lost National Championship 2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 13th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 29 Four Stars - 27 Three Stars - 3 Two Stars (or less) - 88.57 Average Composite Score - 33 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 4 Five Stars - 35 Four Stars - 35 Three Stars - 5 Two Stars (or less) - 88.91 Average Composite Score - 39 Blue Chip
Lost in Semi Finals to Bama 2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 9th in Country - 6 Five Stars - 34 Four Stars - 31 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or less) - 89.21 Average Composite Score - 40 Blue Chip
Won National Championship 2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 6th in Country - 9 Five Star - 37 Four Stars - 24 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 90.23 Average Composite Score - 46 Blue Chip
Over those 5 years Bama has had 63 Blue Chip players per year with 12 Five Stars per year and a 93 Average Composite Score per year.
You don't have to be Bama to win a title. You need to stack double digit blue chip classes to build depth to handle attrition, land 1-2 Elite players per year, and have Elite coaching.
UW is on this trajectory as I've stated many times. Now, stop with the coaching blunders and become the Elite coach that we? thought Petersen was, land some fucking Elite players and stop closing with a whimper.
For Comparison, UW's Talent Composite the last few years.
2015: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 29th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 15 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 10 Two Stars (or less) - 85.09 Average Composite Score - 15 Blue Chip
2016: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 21 Four Stars - 56 Three Stars - 8 Two Stars (or less) - 85.73 Average Composite Score - 21 Blue Chip
2017: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 24th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 23 Four Stars - 55 Three Stars - 7 Two Stars (or less) - 85.98 Average Composite Score - 23 Blue Chip
2018: 5 Year Team Talent Composite - 20th in Country - 1 Five Star - 31 Four Stars - 47 Three Stars - 6 Two Stars (or Less) - 87.25 Average Composite Score - 31 Blue Chip
2019 - Projected 39 Blue Chip with a chance at 5 more.
