Recruiting Questions?
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No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.UDubHusky23 said:
but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb positionsonics1993 said:
Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.UDubHusky23 said:@sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out
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Every coach is involved in special teams, Bob just does more work but when it comes to coaching it, they are all involved.dhdawg said:Speaking of Bob Gregory, has there been any appreciable change in the way special teams will be coached this year? Gregory still owns the title of special teams coach but is he more or less involved this year? Are other coaches getting more involved?
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They wouldn't have to coach. Just sell.sonics1993 said:
No because you need a jimmy replacement who knows the system and players beause you don't know how long he's going to stay. Plus salary is a issue, we only had 300k to spend a coach and your not going to get a good LB coach with that kind of salary.UDubHusky23 said:
but it seems both Bob gregory and Pete K have the same weaknesses when it comes to recruiting. Since gregory and coach K coach inside and outside linebackers, wouldn't it have been more logical to have a 10th assistant coach that can help out in recruiting the lb positionsonics1993 said:
Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.UDubHusky23 said:@sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out
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@sonics1993 based on your comments on Smalls, how confident are you that we'll make it on his top schools list?
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But we had Ale, he committed and signed. Nothing we can do when it gets shady. He had Henry, Henry's dad thought he should be a outside pass rusher/buck, nothing we can do about that. LB play has yet to be a problem so I don't see thee need to replace especially with his track record. There are a lot of of LB coaches that can recruit but can't coach and I don't wan them. The whole coaching staff is involved with special teams, blaming just Bob for it is wrong.FremontTroll said:
To play devil's advocate- there are always good excuses for the fish that got away.sonics1993 said:
Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.UDubHusky23 said:@sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out
Way too many big fish slip off our hooks at LB even with multiple staff members pitching in. Last year it was To'oTo'o the year before Ale this year Botelho and Herbig. All for good reasons but closers give recruits reasons to choose UW and to ignore reasons to go elsewhere.
The staff around Bob has prevented it from being an unmitigated disaster by getting Heimuli among others but the talent at LB still lags the rest of the roster.
Also why hasn't Bob's coaching and development translated to special teams success? Does he just not have enough time to devote or does he not have the knowledge or what?
I expect our coverage teams will be better this year just due to increased depth but our kicking still seems like it could be a huge disaster. And why is Fuller returning punts? Is that CP's decision? -
sonics1993 said:FremontTroll said:
To play devil's advocate- there are always good excuses for the fish that got away.sonics1993 said:
Jordan is a solid recruiter and has helped out with few commitments no one gives him credit for like Daniel Heimuli, Troy Fautanu and Noa Ngalu. Bob on the other hand is just not a good recruiter but is a excellent coach who knows how to develop guys. And the staff around him can make up for his downfall with recruiting and he can coach them up. Remember we had Ale Kaho who is a 5 star LB and Henry To'o To'o but the parents got in the way.UDubHusky23 said:@sonics1993 how big of a liability are bob gregory and jordan paopao on the recruiting trail? I know pete will never make a change for gregory but it seems it like both of these coaches miss key guys year in and year out
Way too many big fish slip off our hooks at LB even with multiple staff members pitching in. Last year it was To'oTo'o the year before Ale this year Botelho and Herbig. All for good reasons but closers give recruits reasons to choose UW and to ignore reasons to go elsewhere.
The staff around Bob has prevented it from being an unmitigated disaster by getting Heimuli among others but the talent at LB still lags the rest of the roster.
Also why hasn't Bob's coaching and development translated to special teams success? Does he just not have enough time to devote or does he not have the knowledge or what?
I expect our coverage teams will be better this year just due to increased depth but our kicking still seems like it could be a huge disaster. And why is Fuller returning punts? Is that CP's decision? -
Speaking of Bob, will the 2021 LB Class be Will Latu, Julien Simon and Ethan Calvert?
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To soon to sayKevininTacoma said:Speaking of Bob, will the 2021 LB Class be Will Latu, Julien Simon and Ethan Calvert?
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Don't know and honestly don't care. We are in good shape with him no matter if we are on the list or not.insinceredawg said:@sonics1993 based on your comments on Smalls, how confident are you that we'll make it on his top schools list?
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It’s horrible! LEaVEe!!!AcropolisJr said:Had to follow you here sonics, see what this place is all about...
But no, really, stay!
