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  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:

    Fuck off

    You have 20 guys you are getting every year

    The whole point of opportunity cost is maximizing return ... and ideally doing so while minimizing cost

    If that’s your plan you focus locally and call it a day

    Here’s the thing though, you offer kids like Carson Bruener and they commit immediately. So you better be damn sure that they are the best you can get it or you just limited yourself.

    When you know you can flip kids like Bruener, Jaxson Kirkland, and Joe Tryon late in the game, then you’re a fool to take them early if you have higher targets.

    Some of you are such fucking lemmings
    LOL you are on such tilt.

    In your hypo (which is a huge strawman) you are just counting every commit equally in terms of return which makes no fucking sense.

    The return is not how many commits we get it is the talent and potential of those commits (best measured vs a replacement-level recruit for you sabermetrics nerds.)

    This idea that nobody can prove that we are missing on West Coast kids because of Texas is ridiculous. There is no way to make that connection directly. But you (unlike Ballz) acknowledge that recruiting is a game of limited resources so its common fucking sense that we had to cut time recruiting other kids in order to increase our presence in Texas. There is no way that can't have an effect- we just don't know where the effect occurred because this isn't a fucking simulation.
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Tequilla said:

    So you are recommending to me to change strategy not because something WILL change but because it MIGHT change

    Also, while debatable obviously to what extent of a return we are having, but we are getting at least some results of Texas.

    So if you are wanting me to change course, you better be able to convince me that you are going to replicate what I’m already getting with certainty ... and the reality is you have to convince me that I’m getting a higher return
    If you want idiotic specific and definitive "predictions" on the future based on nothing why dont you spend your time talking to SAC, the resident village idiot that agrees with you.

    You're creating a straw-man... a discussion on general strategy cant guarantee an individual recruits results. Are you fucking retarded?

    Clear blackeye for TCU

    Its a discussion about the efficiency, cost/benefit and opportunity cost you chromosome collecting mongoloid.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,088

    LOL you are on such tilt.

    In your hypo (which is a huge strawman) you are just counting every commit equally in terms of return which makes no fucking sense.

    The return is not how many commits we get it is the talent and potential of those commits (best measured vs a replacement-level recruit for you sabermetrics nerds.)

    This idea that nobody can prove that we are missing on West Coast kids because of Texas is ridiculous. There is no way to make that connection directly. But you (unlike Ballz) acknowledge that recruiting is a game of limited resources so its common fucking sense that we had to cut time recruiting other kids in order to increase our presence in Texas. There is no way that can't have an effect- we just don't know where the effect occurred because this isn't a fucking simulation.
    Except that the way that recruiting works is that you really start recruiting kids (regardless of offers) is when they are freshmen/sophomores

    So by the time you really are starting to recruit guys, you have a pretty good sense of the interest levels on both sides
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Look what you have created @DoogCourics
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,088
    Houhusky said:

    If you want idiotic specific and definitive "predictions" on the future based on nothing why dont you spend your time talking to SAC, the resident village idiot that agrees with you.

    You're creating a straw-man... a discussion on general strategy cant guarantee an individual recruits results. Are you fucking retarded?

    Clear blackeye for TCU

    Its a discussion about the efficiency, cost/benefit and opportunity cost you chromosome collecting mongoloid.

    Investments don’t necessarily generate immediate returns

    Failure to invest in the future often dooms those that aren’t forward looking

    If you can convince me that redirecting resources out of Texas materially improves returns in California, Utah, Arizona, Hawaii, etc, then I’m ALL ears

    Problem is that you can’t ...

    It’s a far better argument to me to argue that we need to upgrade the back half of our recruiters ... which is something I’m 100% behind talking about
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  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited August 2019
    @Tequilla is on his A game today and destroying you fuckers.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:


    Investments don’t necessarily generate immediate returns

    Failure to invest in the future often dooms those that aren’t forward looking

    If you can convince me that redirecting resources out of Texas materially improves returns in California, Utah, Arizona, Hawaii, etc, then I’m ALL ears

    Problem is that you can’t ...

    It’s a far better argument to me to argue that we need to upgrade the back half of our recruiters ... which is something I’m 100% behind talking about
    Of course I can't convince someone who has already made up their mind.

    I can say we had this exact same conversation when Choate and Pease were recruiting Texas hard. How did those investments work out?

    Investing in the future to become the next Amazon is also an excuse for money-losing companies that are either in a bad business or bad at business or both.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 17,911

    @Tequilla is on his game today and destroying you fuckers.

    Sure.gif
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Sure.gif

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,088
    How have I made up my mind?

    If you can’t provide me evidence that shows me the current strategy isn’t working, then why would I dispute the vision?

    It’s clearly provided some returns and some quite strong ones.

    There’s zero evidence that the coaches are stretched to the point it’s impacting other focus areas.

    $$$ isn’t a material concern here

    From my viewpoint it’s relatively low risk and high reward. It’s getting ahead of potential issues that may arise.

    There’s way more merit discussing our bottom half recruiters as having a greater impact on our recruiting performance than this.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    LOL you are on such tilt.

    In your hypo (which is a huge strawman) you are just counting every commit equally in terms of return which makes no fucking sense.

    The return is not how many commits we get it is the talent and potential of those commits (best measured vs a replacement-level recruit for you sabermetrics nerds.)

    This idea that nobody can prove that we are missing on West Coast kids because of Texas is ridiculous. There is no way to make that connection directly. But you (unlike Ballz) acknowledge that recruiting is a game of limited resources so its common fucking sense that we had to cut time recruiting other kids in order to increase our presence in Texas. There is no way that can't have an effect- we just don't know where the effect occurred because this isn't a fucking simulation.
    Donate.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Houhusky said:

    If you want idiotic specific and definitive "predictions" on the future based on nothing why dont you spend your time talking to SAC, the resident village idiot that agrees with you.

    You're creating a straw-man... a discussion on general strategy cant guarantee an individual recruits results. Are you fucking retarded?

    Clear blackeye for TCU

    Its a discussion about the efficiency, cost/benefit and opportunity cost you chromosome collecting mongoloid.
    Donate.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Tequilla said:

    Except that the way that recruiting works is that you really start recruiting kids (regardless of offers) is when they are freshmen/sophomores

    So by the time you really are starting to recruit guys, you have a pretty good sense of the interest levels on both sides
    Donate.
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    edited August 2019

    Look what you have created @DoogCourics































  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,985

    Look what you have created @DoogCourics

    Key takeaway from OP is that the coaches have rationalized why they recruit Texas and that they're going to continue it.
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    Key takeaway from OP is that the coaches have rationalized why they recruit Texas and that they're going to continue it.

  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 5,257
    If there is benefit to adding a bit of Texas HS football culture to our locker room then it makes more sense to me.

    Otherwise I am struggling to see not going all in on California while USC/UCLA are down.
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