Pete’s plunger guard

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

FirePete said:

YellowSnow said:

Or we could agree that lack of plungerings is a sign of good coaching. How many times did DJ get plungered in 18 years? Not very many. Lambo, Rick, Gilbyham and Sark all got curb stomped over and over.

beta mentally. win or gtfo. pete has a great defense, but we are paying him $7 mill put a team that has special team / offense / defense. he only delivering on 1/3 of the equation. I just hope this year the special team will get better because depth at LB and DB is better. offese will get better because ur downsyndrome of a QB not suiting up.

Disagree. I think getting plungered regularly is more of a beta program symptom than Pete going 0-3 vs Satan, NFL Rookie of the Year, and Urbs.

Pete is a great coach, but not a miracle worker. Who in college football is? Name me one.

Urbs

Bull shit @creepycoug . Urbs didn't win his first NT in 2006 with top 25 recruiting classes. Florida was stacking top 5 classes before he took the jerb. Look it up.

HOF. Top 2 corch of the modern era of CFP, yes. Miracle worker winning NTs with non blue blood level talent, NO.

You see? It's this level of disrespect that has caused me to withhold my campaign support.

I meant no dis-respeck. I am trying to dispell this myth that Urbs and Saban "walk on water". They are great coaches who get elite talent and get said talent to live up to expectations. But neither of their successes at multiple schools have been "miraculous".

Whosoever has done more at more places?

Saban was mediocrity personified at Michigan State and lasted just long enough for a cup o' coffee in the league.

Spurrier made Duke respectable, made Florida a power, and made S. Carolina respectable. Meyer did more.

Jimmy made Okie State respectable, built a power at Miami that would outlast him, and built Dallas up from nothing. If that's your guy, I'm listening.

DJ was solid at Kent State, built a program at Washington and opted for early retirement. Not in the convo.

Meyer did it at Bowling, Utah, won 2 at Florida, one of which was against an arguably better team, won one at Buck and slept walk through a Rose Bowl over Peterman.

If it ain't Meyer it's nobody.

89ute said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

FirePete said:

YellowSnow said:

Or we could agree that lack of plungerings is a sign of good coaching. How many times did DJ get plungered in 18 years? Not very many. Lambo, Rick, Gilbyham and Sark all got curb stomped over and over.

beta mentally. win or gtfo. pete has a great defense, but we are paying him $7 mill put a team that has special team / offense / defense. he only delivering on 1/3 of the equation. I just hope this year the special team will get better because depth at LB and DB is better. offese will get better because ur downsyndrome of a QB not suiting up.

Disagree. I think getting plungered regularly is more of a beta program symptom than Pete going 0-3 vs Satan, NFL Rookie of the Year, and Urbs.

Pete is a great coach, but not a miracle worker. Who in college football is? Name me one.

Urbs

Bull shit @creepycoug . Urbs didn't win his first NT in 2006 with top 25 recruiting classes. Florida was stacking top 5 classes before he took the jerb. Look it up.

HOF. Top 2 corch of the modern era of CFP, yes. Miracle worker winning NTs with non blue blood level talent, NO.

You see? It's this level of disrespect that has caused me to withhold my campaign support.

I meant no dis-respeck. I am trying to dispell this myth that Urbs and Saban "walk on water". They are great coaches who get elite talent and get said talent to live up to expectations. But neither of their successes at multiple schools have been "miraculous".

Whosoever has done more at more places?

Saban was mediocrity personified at Michigan State and lasted just long enough for a cup o' coffee in the league.

Spurrier made Duke respectable, made Florida a power, and made S. Carolina respectable. Meyer did more.

Jimmy made Okie State respectable, built a power at Miami that would outlast him, and built Dallas up from nothing. If that's your guy, I'm listening.

DJ was solid at Kent State, built a program at Washington and opted for early retirement. Not in the convo.

Meyer did it at Bowling, Utah, won 2 at Florida, one of which was against an arguably better team, won one at Buck and slept walk through a Rose Bowl over Peterman.

If it ain't Meyer it's nobody.

@creepycoug and @89ute - we are talking past each other. The conversation isn't about whether or not Urbs is the elite or contender for GOAT in the modern era. My contention is that he's not "miracle" worker in the sense that he never won a NT with non Top 10 type talent. I will run the numbers this week for your guys.

But how are you going to quantify breaking the BCS in 04? It was designed to never happen. Outside of Alex Smith, the talent was a bunch of try hards. I'b betting the same situation at BG.