Navarette says he’s shutting it down...


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Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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Looks like a faglawsandl said:He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.
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He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.StrongArmCobra said:
Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.
Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly. -
Everyone’s talking about the difference between jimmy lake and jimmy lakeStrongArmCobra said:
Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.
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You'll just have to wait and see. UW has more than Tryon. Rice, Ngata, Latu, and Tupuola-Fetui are talented as well. Latu is better than Kayvon by the way. Bowman is a short try hard but he's quick and strong and benefits the run defense.lawsandl said:
Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.StrongArmCobra said:
Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.
Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly.
They can be more aggressive with the pass rush and still cover in the back end just as well. If anything the improved pass rush will make the back end even better.
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Last year was his first season as a DC. Now that he has earned the confidence of Petersen he has the authority to add some new wrinkles to the defense as he see fit. Plus, our edge rushers have simply gotten a lot better which helps make his job easier.ntxduck said:
Everyone’s talking about the difference between jimmy lake and jimmy lakeStrongArmCobra said:
Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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If you think UW is all of sudden changing philosophy because of Latu, Rice and Ngata, I just don’t know what to say. You have a conservative staff and you know the old adage, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.StrongArmCobra said:
You'll just have to wait and see. UW has more than Tryon. Rice, Ngata, Latu, and Tupuola-Fetui are talented as well. Bowman is a short try hard but he's quick and strong and benefits the run defense.lawsandl said:
Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.StrongArmCobra said:
Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.
Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly.
They can be more aggressive with the pass rush and still cover in the back end just as well. If anything the improved pass rush will make the back end even better. -
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.
And no, Lawrence was recruited and coached by Coach K at Boise St. We got the elite Boise State guys, you picked up some retread wannabe. -
every single Oregon recruiting photo is like:RaceBannon said:
Looks like a faglawsandl said:He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.
Recruit "So, where do you press to take a selfie again?"
Cristobal "Riiiiigggghtttt....there. The little round thing." -
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. His draft stock tanked. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.
Answer the question. If he was your son, which coaching staff would you feel more comfortable sending him to play for? The proven coaches that have coached four straight #1 defenses in the conference and put more players in the league, or the unproven coaches that offer flashy uniforms, swag, and their "vision" of what they want Oregon to be. -
Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.StrongArmCobra said:
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
lawsandl said:
He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.
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I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.lawsandl said:
Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.StrongArmCobra said:
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
He was more productive as a senior. He came out of no where as a junior. I’d buy the fact that he got slower since he got bigger if he actually gained weight.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.lawsandl said:
Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.StrongArmCobra said:
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
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He was more productive as a Junior and had twice as many sacks. He gained 20 pounds. 240 to 260 and got slower. He did not live up to expectations man.lawsandl said:
He was more productive as a senior. He came out of no where as a junior. I’d buy the fact that he got slower since he got bigger if he actually gained weight.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.lawsandl said:
Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.StrongArmCobra said:
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
He had 20 more tackles and he was never 240 you dolt and 260 is very generous.StrongArmCobra said:
He was more productive as a Junior and had twice as many sacks. He gained 20 pounds. 240 to 260 and got slower. He did not live up to expectations man.lawsandl said:
He was more productive as a senior. He came out of no where as a junior. I’d buy the fact that he got slower since he got bigger if he actually gained weight.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.lawsandl said:
Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.StrongArmCobra said:
LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.lawsandl said:
Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).StrongArmCobra said:
He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?lawsandl said:Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.
My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable. -
If I was his parent, I'd feel confident sending him to any Pac12 school. But he wants to rush the qb, which is something the Huskies aren't great at. He didnt buy whatever Huskies were selling and choose Oregon. He sees Oregon as up and coming (they were a 4 win team 3 years ago) and already a year ahead of schedule of where they thought they would be when Crisobal was named head coach. He made a good choice and picked Oregon and let's wish him the best.
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This is the quook version of Owen.DuckMayne said:If I was his parent, I'd feel confident sending him to any Pac12 school. But he wants to rush the qb, which is something the Huskies aren't great at. He didnt buy whatever Huskies were selling and choose Oregon. He sees Oregon as up and coming (they were a 4 win team 3 years ago) and already a year ahead of schedule of where they thought they would be when Crisobal was named head coach. He made a good choice and picked Oregon and let's wish him the best.
When teams quit on shitty coaches they lose more than they should and make the returning team appear worse than it actually is. Just like UW did not have 0 win talent in 2008, Oregon still had talent left over from good recruiting. Stop pretending like there was some massive turnaround cause Taggart and Cristobal are just geniuses -
Kikaha's 18.5 sacks a few years ago would've been about 37 if the defense wouldn't have been sitting back.lawsandl said:
He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.StrongArmCobra said:Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!
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Doogs can’t see the writing on the wall.dhdawg said:
This is the quook version of Owen.DuckMayne said:If I was his parent, I'd feel confident sending him to any Pac12 school. But he wants to rush the qb, which is something the Huskies aren't great at. He didnt buy whatever Huskies were selling and choose Oregon. He sees Oregon as up and coming (they were a 4 win team 3 years ago) and already a year ahead of schedule of where they thought they would be when Crisobal was named head coach. He made a good choice and picked Oregon and let's wish him the best.
When teams quit on shitty coaches they lose more than they should and make the returning team appear worse than it actually is. Just like UW did not have 0 win talent in 2008, Oregon still had talent left over from good recruiting. Stop pretending like there was some massive turnaround cause Taggart and Cristobal are just geniuses
Oregon will be a competitor in the PAC for a long time. You’re still in the denial phase. I get it. -
What writing on the wall?
We’ve gone to three straight NY6 bowls with mediocre recruiting.
Now we are recruiting at an elite/very good level. -
Ybackthepack said:
What writing on the wall?
We’ve gone to three straight NY6 bowls with mediocre recruiting.
Now we are recruiting at an elite/very good level.
I am saying that irrespective of UW.