Navarette says he’s shutting it down...

lawsandl

He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.

Ballz

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

RaceBannon

lawsandl said:

He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.

Looks like a fag

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Ballz

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.

Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.

If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.

Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly.

ntxduck

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".

Everyone’s talking about the difference between jimmy lake and jimmy lake

lawsandl

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

Ballz

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.

Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.

If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.

Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly.

You'll just have to wait and see. UW has more than Tryon. Rice, Ngata, Latu, and Tupuola-Fetui are talented as well. Latu is better than Kayvon by the way. Bowman is a short try hard but he's quick and strong and benefits the run defense.

They can be more aggressive with the pass rush and still cover in the back end just as well. If anything the improved pass rush will make the back end even better.

Ballz

ntxduck said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks than they did last season. But let's be real, this kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. Not the substance because Oregon has none. They have a completely unproven head coach and defensive coordinator. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. But when Oregon doesn't win he's gone and "please respect his decision".

Everyone’s talking about the difference between jimmy lake and jimmy lake

Last year was his first season as a DC. Now that he has earned the confidence of Petersen he has the authority to add some new wrinkles to the defense as he see fit. Plus, our edge rushers have simply gotten a lot better which helps make his job easier.

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Things change all the time. Don't make the biggest mistake of your life kid!

He thinks Oregon will put him in a better spot to get after the qb. Oregon philosophically gets after the qb more than UW. Tyron will get his but UW probably sits back again next year.

Won't be the case. There's been a philosophy change under Jimmy Lake to be more aggressive in the front seven. UW will get way more sacks. But let's be real. This kid loves Oregon's uniforms and that's what he's attracted to. He can say whatever he wants now when no games have been played. If Oregon doesn't win he's gone.

Bowman and Latu aren’t going to be prolific pass rushers. The only player in your front seven that will strike any fear of pass rush is Tyron. He will get his because he’s good not because of Lake.

If Lake gets much more aggressive with inexperience across the board in the front seven, he would be foolish. The hallmark of UW is the lack of explosion plays. What UW does is not sexy but effective.

Bowman and Latu are contain guys. Latu may develop a pass rush set down the road but Bowman is what he is. I can’t imagine a wholesale philosophy change. God forbid Tyron gets injured. The staff would be wise to transition slowly.

You'll just have to wait and see. UW has more than Tryon. Rice, Ngata, Latu, and Tupuola-Fetui are talented as well. Bowman is a short try hard but he's quick and strong and benefits the run defense.

They can be more aggressive with the pass rush and still cover in the back end just as well. If anything the improved pass rush will make the back end even better.

If you think UW is all of sudden changing philosophy because of Latu, Rice and Ngata, I just don’t know what to say. You have a conservative staff and you know the old adage, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it.

Ballz

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

And no, Lawrence was recruited and coached by Coach K at Boise St. We got the elite Boise State guys, you picked up some retread wannabe.

Meek

RaceBannon said:

lawsandl said:

He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.

Looks like a fag

every single Oregon recruiting photo is like:

Recruit "So, where do you press to take a selfie again?"

Cristobal "Riiiiigggghtttt....there. The little round thing."

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

Ballz

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. His draft stock tanked. Stop it.

Answer the question. If he was your son, which coaching staff would you feel more comfortable sending him to play for? The proven coaches that have coached four straight #1 defenses in the conference and put more players in the league, or the unproven coaches that offer flashy uniforms, swag, and their "vision" of what they want Oregon to be.

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.

Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.

DerekJohnson

lawsandl said:

He’s not taking any officials other than Oregon. Obviously recruiting is fluid but this is good news.

Ballz

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.

Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.

I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.

lawsandl

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.

Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.

I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.

He was more productive as a senior. He came out of no where as a junior. I’d buy the fact that he got slower since he got bigger if he actually gained weight.

IPukeOregonGrellow

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Ballz

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Avalos ran a defense for three years, lol. Sure, he’s not Venables. The two years he ran the DL he recruited and developed Demarcus Lawrence. He also developed Vander Esch, Correa and Weaver. There’s also a track record of a defensive philosophy.

My whole family is dyed in the wool BSU fans since we’re from Idaho. Avalos is well respected by BSU fans. He dealt with heavy turnover and injury when he took over and kept the defense very respectable.

He hasn't done shit at the Power-5 level. He's unproven. We got the two best DC's in the conference on our staff. If you were this kid's parent, which staff would you tell him to trust with his future hmmm?

Oregon just put Hollins and Jelks in as guys that got after the qb. Winston and Cumberlander did better than anyone on your front seven at getting after the qb (Tyron to be fair looks like he will be really good but sample is limited).

LOL dude Jelks went way lower in the draft than he was projected to preseason. Stop it.

Jelks ran 5.0+ 40 and is 260 pounds. He would’ve always gotten exposed at the combine. You know it and that’s why he came back.

I don't know that. Sounds like he tried to bulk up because scouts were telling him he was too light and he sacrificed his speed to do it. But his stock had already tanked before the combine based on his Senior film. I thought he was better as a Junior.

He was more productive as a senior. He came out of no where as a junior. I’d buy the fact that he got slower since he got bigger if he actually gained weight.

He was more productive as a Junior and had twice as many sacks. He gained 20 pounds. 240 to 260 and got slower. He did not live up to expectations man.