Redshirting Budda Baker(deserves own thread)

[Deleted User] · February 2014

Those who think the Huskies should redshirt Budda Baker are fucking morons! I'm sorry but it's true. I understand wanting to redshirt McGary or any other lineman.

But Baker? He's going to be your best option at the starting safety spot considering UW is graduating both starting safeties from last year and have no depth behind them. He is also going to be on our kick return team as UW hasn't had a kick returner worth a shit in quite some time. He'll also be used on special packages on offense for fly sweeps to get more speed on the field.

What is the point in redshirting him? If he's worth a shit he's gone after year four anyways and if he is seeing a fifth year most likely his career was a bust.

Don't over think this guys. Baker will start game one as he should. Best player needs to play and I have no problem with true freshman playing who are ready like Kasen was, ASJ was, Parker was(He was our nickel corner until he got hurt), Shaq was, etc.

The guys I had a problem with burning their redshirts were Kevin Smith, Greg Ducre, Kohler/Porter(or any lineman), and even Sankey at the time.

There is no reason why this team can't be expected to win and achieve 10+ wins this year. So those who want Baker redshirted please stop this crazy talk.

Getting to be a bunch of revenge of the nerds around here. Time to close the fucking gates Derek.

Meek · February 2014

fucking hell... getting all bent out of shape because of a debate about a true fucking freshman? jesus christ... close the gates is right derek.

NeGgaPlEaSe · February 2014

Meek said:
fucking hell... getting all bent out of shape because of a debate about a true fucking freshman? jesus christ... close the gates is right derek.

I like to waste a year on the scout team of a blue chip recruit, knowing they will only be at the University for 4 years anyway... That's what I like to do. If ASJ took a redshirt his first year.... Guess what, he's still going to the NFL after 3-4 years in the program, so what's the fucking point? That way you can get two functional years instead of 3? I'll take your 3 plays on the field over scout team MVP anyday

haie · February 2014

Who the fuck wants to redshirt him? Need to field the best team we can, and do the best we can this season, if only for the sake of building momentum in the program. Who the fuck wants the, "Well just wait until our reshirt guys are ready to play next year" bs. Even with miles, I expect Williams to do good things given that he has better coaches now.

whatshouldicareabout · February 2014

The best players should play.

If Buddha (I like to call him that) is one of the best safeties on the team, let him play.

Southerndawg · February 2014

If he's that good, who the hell would they be redshirting him for? The NFL? Screw that. If the kid is ready and can play, play him. Everyone wins. The problem with Ty and Sark was those two douche bags burned redshirts in hopes of saving their own asses. They played too many kids before they were ready. But Baker looks ready to go, and I trust Peterson to make the right call on this. He's a better man and more coach than Ty or Sark could ever hope to be. LIFPO, and if Baker starts as a true frosh, it will be because he's ready to go.

Tailgater · February 2014

Budda's so good,..... let him play now! Don't wait for September! Throw his collegiate cherry away even or especially before prom night. Shaq played without a redshirt and Budda will also.

Southerndawg · February 2014

FO, TG

DerekJohnson · February 2014

Mora should have redshirted Myles Jack last year. He's imploding that program before our very eyes.

[Deleted User] · February 2014

DerekJohnson said:
Mora should have redshirted Myles Jack last year. He's imploding that program before our very eyes.

I'm hearing he's rubbing people the wrong way.

Mora is like that hot girl at the bar flirting with everyone with her BF right there. We all know that doesn't end well.....

CuntWaffle · February 2014

If Budda is ready he will play (most likely scenario by far). If he isn't ready he will redshirt. Either way it will be interesting.

bananasnblondes · February 2014

Any player who can make a positive impact on the team should play regardless of year. Unfortunately, guys like Joe Mathis, Marcus Farria, Trevor Walker, Shane Brostek, KevinSmith, Greg Ducre and several others did not have a positive impact as true freshmen but were played anyways because Sark likes to play with his new toys. Instead all we got was a year of wasted eligibility for each of those guys. So yeah, if Buddha is a Sean Parker play him. If he is a James Sample redshirt him. I'm pretty sure he is the former.

dnc · February 2014

Budda's the Nate Robinson or Kenny James of this class.

I miss Rick redshirting entire classes except one.

CuntWaffle · February 2014

dnc said:
Budda's the Nate Robinson or Kenny James of this class.

I miss Rick redshirting entire classes except one.

Buddha Baker will play in the NBA?

[Deleted User] · February 2014

dnc said:
Budda's the Nate Robinson or Kenny James of this class.

I miss Rick redshirting entire classes except one.

I used to always bring that up when Tybots would point out how Rick destroyed the program and I'd point out that in 2006 and 2007 Ty had 20+ 5th year SR's.

Of course that was dismissed as all Tybots hated facts.

dnc · February 2014

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:
Budda's the Nate Robinson or Kenny James of this class.

I miss Rick redshirting entire classes except one.
I used to always bring that up when Tybots would point out how Rick destroyed the program and I'd point out that in 2006 and 2007 Ty had 20+ 5th year SR's.

Of course that was dismissed as all Tybots hated facts.

The program destroyer redshirted Brett Hundley for Mora, too, despite not having a QB.

One could argue that Rick was too conservative with his true frosh, but he's the exact kind of coach you want to follow, not the kind you hate to follow despite the popular doog narrative.

sarktastic · February 2014

whatshouldicareabout said:
The best players should play.

If Buddha (I like to call him that) is one of the best safeties on the team, let him play.

Why is this so hard for some to understand?

NeGgaPlEaSe · February 2014

sarktastic said:

whatshouldicareabout said:
The best players should play.

If Buddha (I like to call him that) is one of the best safeties on the team, let him play.
Why is this so hard for some to understand?

Same conversation, lather rinse repeat, Shaq..... You have to ask meek

chuck · February 2014

dnc said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:
Budda's the Nate Robinson or Kenny James of this class.

I miss Rick redshirting entire classes except one.
I used to always bring that up when Tybots would point out how Rick destroyed the program and I'd point out that in 2006 and 2007 Ty had 20+ 5th year SR's.

Of course that was dismissed as all Tybots hated facts.
The program destroyer redshirted Brett Hundley for Mora, too, despite not having a QB.

One could argue that Rick was too conservative with his true frosh, but he's the exact kind of coach you want to follow, not the kind you hate to follow despite the popular doog narrative.

What about Reggie Williams though. Imagine how scary he would have been flexing at the other teams if he could have spent a RS year working out.

Thanks a lot Rick.

Seriously that's a pretty impressive thing about RN that I never really paid attention to. He was unusual in his willingness to sacrifice short term for long term gain when it came to players. We've been dealing with the opposite (burning RS for garbage time minutes, blocking on KO returns, etc) for so long that it's hard to imagine using that approach now.

DawgDaze71 · February 2014

Redshirting has lost its luster. NFL Rookie Salary cap makes Junior more likely to leave the program.

chuck · February 2014

DawgDaze71 said:
Redshirting has lost its luster. NFL Rookie Salary cap makes Junior more likely to leave the program.

Redshirting star caliber players, those likely to be first day draft picks after three years, is a waste of a year. It isn't an easy task, but the coaches are being paid millions to show great judgement about who these few players are and make decisions about redshirting accordingly.

Playing a guy like Shaq Thompson as a freshman was a no brainer. Danny Shelton was probably a defensible decision. Guys like Josh Shirley, Elijah Qualls, Marcus Farria, etc (this list could go on for a mile just using the past 5 years) as freshmen were questionable decisions at best. There's no way to view Sark as anything but a failure in this aspect of his job at UW.

Baker is going to play and probably has to based not just on talent but also on the lack of good players on the roster at his position.

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