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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,673 Swaye's Wigwam

    The doogs are really outing themselves over this try-hard 6 ft unexplosive OLB lol

    He’s basically Ryan Bowman with a scholarship offer.

    Bowman is compact and explosive at 260 with something like a 38" vertical jump. I dont think they have much in common.

    This guy has good height and weight for an ilb, tackles well, and shows good instincts in coverage. He doesn't look real explosive at all, but hes young and already big enough so theres real opportunity for that to improve.

    I'm not as bothered by his offer or verbal as some of you. I understand the disappointment over the fact that UW is still recruiting jag athletes, just not to the extremes I've seen in this thread.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    The doogs are really outing themselves over this try-hard 6 ft unexplosive OLB lol

    He’s basically Ryan Bowman with a scholarship offer.

    He's playing ILB for UW which is a much better fit for him. He's not fast twitch enough to be an edge guy but he's not slow. You can see he's got some speed to work with when he scores those defensive touchdowns in his film. He's easier to like than Bruener right now. Bruener looks like he's in a boy band for fuck sake. So disappointing he didn't get his dad's size and looks like a hard gainer when it comes to putting on muscle mass. At least McDonald has the size we want and will probably end up around 240 in college.
    Bruener is definitely bigger and faster than this kid.
    Faster yes, bigger, not even close dude. Bruener is pretty skinny and light in the pants for an ILB recruit.
    FM, #TeamBallz on this one. I saw Bruener recently, he's not very big.
    Bruener’s like 6”2. McDonald’s 6”1.

    Bruener’s not a jag athletically and they’ll put more weight on him.


    McDonald’s just a fucking Aaron Fuller type jag. Not good enough.
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    Swaye said:

    Also, not impressed. It's July and we are taking some try hard from Texas? I'm fine with this offer in November when all the top guys have told the dynamic duo of Kwat and Shitbird to fuck off, but Plan B guys in July is a bad look. At least it's not Plan C? FML

    I’m willing to LIPO and withhold judgment until after the senior season hudl comes out.

    Herbig and Botelho were major fuck ups. We? got beat out for guys that should have been easy gets. Let’s just get that out of the way first and foremost.

    As for this kid, his ranking doesn’t bother me. I think it’s actually pretty low and Wiltfong mentioned it should be higher. Likely .85 or .86. That would be right in line with Ah You and Tuputala, who we all love. The ranking doesn’t mean shit. The tape does.

    His Junior tape isn’t amazing. But he has good size that matches what has been recruited at ILB the last two classes with guys like Sirmon/Calvert/Tuputala/Heimuli, hits like a truck and dudes go down quick, he has decent quickness and speed, and has a nose for turnovers and takes them to the house when he gets them.

    This is not Clemson and Bama Level. Obviously. I wanted Herbig and Botelho. I want Smalls and Banks. But this kid was identified early. He committed the July before his Senior year, not January after it.

    We didn’t hate Tafisi, Tuputala, or Ah You because their ranking sucked.

    I’m waiting until his senior film comes out. If he hasn’t improved or doesn’t wow me, I’ll shit on him then.
    He has already announced he will be moving to ILB for his Senior season, so the tape this fall will tell us how outraged we all must be.

    Also, IIRC the average ILB this last draft class was 6'1". So while he may not be 6'3" with the length an edge guy needs, he doesn't need to be. He fits the same body mold of the ILB the coaches have gotten the last 2 classes.
  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316

    So im bored and watched the first 3 min of his highlights. If that is a competitive league he is in, he is a good player. The Tevis comparison is a softball one. Tevis was playing 8 man shit in Wyoming, dominating 5A and 6A Texas teams like that is like a highschool to D1 jump.

    Not a flashy commit but seems to be a good player. Physical.

    Whoa there, Ruth.
    Okay bro. You're joke about me not using the word dominating correctly is really funny, and also made me reconsider my eval:

    Cooper is just a scrappy white kid out there trying his hardest. Real lunch pail guy who makes up for his natural ability by living in the weight room. He is the kind of kid the high school coach would let fuck his daughter. Kwat and Cooper bonded over their love of duck hunting and a tin of Copenhagen. Probably belongs at Portland State or EWU.
    Damn PGOS we all know you’re a closet racist but you didn’t have to go full Ruth there and get too sensitive about a joke.
    I'm racist
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    The doogs are really outing themselves over this try-hard 6 ft unexplosive OLB lol

    He’s basically Ryan Bowman with a scholarship offer.

    He's playing ILB for UW which is a much better fit for him. He's not fast twitch enough to be an edge guy but he's not slow. You can see he's got some speed to work with when he scores those defensive touchdowns in his film. He's easier to like than Bruener right now. Bruener looks like he's in a boy band for fuck sake. So disappointing he didn't get his dad's size and looks like a hard gainer when it comes to putting on muscle mass. At least McDonald has the size we want and will probably end up around 240 in college.
    Bruener is definitely bigger and faster than this kid.
    Faster yes, bigger, not even close dude. Bruener is pretty skinny and light in the pants for an ILB recruit.
    FM, #TeamBallz on this one. I saw Bruener recently, he's not very big.
    Bruener’s like 6”2. McDonald’s 6”1.

    Bruener’s not a jag athletically and they’ll put more weight on him.


    McDonald’s just a fucking Aaron Fuller type jag. Not good enough.
    You're going to have to produce something more than your opinion to convince anyone Bruener is taller than McDonald. Bruener is listed at 6'2", McDonald is listed at 6'3". They're almost assuredly both shorter than their listed heights. My money is on McDonald being taller. Bruner looks short in pics with his dad who was only 6'4".
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited July 2019
    dnc said:

    The doogs are really outing themselves over this try-hard 6 ft unexplosive OLB lol

    He’s basically Ryan Bowman with a scholarship offer.

    He's playing ILB for UW which is a much better fit for him. He's not fast twitch enough to be an edge guy but he's not slow. You can see he's got some speed to work with when he scores those defensive touchdowns in his film. He's easier to like than Bruener right now. Bruener looks like he's in a boy band for fuck sake. So disappointing he didn't get his dad's size and looks like a hard gainer when it comes to putting on muscle mass. At least McDonald has the size we want and will probably end up around 240 in college.
    Bruener is definitely bigger and faster than this kid.
    Faster yes, bigger, not even close dude. Bruener is pretty skinny and light in the pants for an ILB recruit.
    FM, #TeamBallz on this one. I saw Bruener recently, he's not very big.
    Bruener’s like 6”2. McDonald’s 6”1.

    Bruener’s not a jag athletically and they’ll put more weight on him.


    McDonald’s just a fucking Aaron Fuller type jag. Not good enough.
    You're going to have to produce something more than your opinion to convince anyone Bruener is taller than McDonald. Bruener is listed at 6'2", McDonald is listed at 6'3". They're almost assuredly both shorter than their listed heights. My money is on McDonald being taller. Bruner looks short in pics with his dad who was only 6'4".
    I’ve played against Bruener and I’m 6”1. He’s definitely taller than me.

    Bruener’s a way better athlete than Cooper.

    Cooper’s heavier right now though.

    Cooper just reminds me of the Aaron Fuller take a few years ago where we struck out on everyone. Aaron’s a JAG.



    Break free you stupid fucks. The Roquan Smith’s, Daniel Heimuli’s, and Rueben Foster’s exist.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited July 2019
    Wait you are telling me Jordan Bohtelo and Nick Herbig exist...??

    No fucking way!!!


    Nah let’s employee Bob Gregory and end up with fucking Cooper McDonald!!!! YAY!


    Nick Bolton 2.0. I hope he ends up at Mizzou too.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    Wait you are telling me Jordan Bohtelo and Nick Herbig exist...??

    No fucking way!!!


    Nah let’s employee Bob Gregory and end up with fucking Cooper McDonald!!!! YAY!


    Nick Bolton 2.0. I hope he ends up at Mizzou too.

    Wow. Such fresh takes on this board. "Bob Gregory can't recruit". Never heard that one before. Jesus, so stale.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    @Neighbor2972 do we have any verified sizes and/or times on McDonald?
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited July 2019
    Jag city baby
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    I like this kid but even Scott Eklund said he doesn’t want to go so far away from home and that if it wasn’t for the fact that Oklahoma, TAMU & Texas haven’t been on him, he would’ve never came and visited us in the first place.


    If we were out of it for Banks, McDonald would’nt be recruited by Gregory, and I think we’d see more OLB discussion. I know Banks is a long shot, but maybe this means a Bruener offer is coming? I like McDonald’s film and frame but I don’t think he likes us more than a weekend fling he can brag to his friends about.

    Haha basically same thing I said upon first impression.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Wait you are telling me Jordan Bohtelo and Nick Herbig exist...??

    No fucking way!!!


    Nah let’s employee Bob Gregory and end up with fucking Cooper McDonald!!!! YAY!


    Nick Bolton 2.0. I hope he ends up at Mizzou too.

    Fighting the wrong fight fugdie
  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
    dnc said:

    I like this kid but even Scott Eklund said he doesn’t want to go so far away from home and that if it wasn’t for the fact that Oklahoma, TAMU & Texas haven’t been on him, he would’ve never came and visited us in the first place.


    If we were out of it for Banks, McDonald would’nt be recruited by Gregory, and I think we’d see more OLB discussion. I know Banks is a long shot, but maybe this means a Bruener offer is coming? I like McDonald’s film and frame but I don’t think he likes us more than a weekend fling he can brag to his friends about.

    Haha basically same thing I said upon first impression.
    I thought (hoped) he would get a bigger offer closer to home.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    FirePete said:

    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid

    Summary: this was not a good job of recruiting but since we’ve gotten better our backup plans have gotten better. He’ll be fine but it doesn’t excuse not offering Raesjon Davis. We have much bigger concerns to move on to and this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU (hopefully) come sniffing around.
    He's not decommitting.
  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid

    Summary: this was not a good job of recruiting but since we’ve gotten better our backup plans have gotten better. He’ll be fine but it doesn’t excuse not offering Raesjon Davis. We have much bigger concerns to move on to and this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU (hopefully) come sniffing around.
    He's not decommitting.
    This thread was summarized for people so they didn’t have to post anymore nonsense and here you come saying something we all know to be pretty obvious to open this thread back up. I hope an army ranger comes on here and pointlessly argues that he will decommit just so you hate yourself for reopening AIDZ.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid

    Summary: this was not a good job of recruiting but since we’ve gotten better our backup plans have gotten better. He’ll be fine but it doesn’t excuse not offering Raesjon Davis. We have much bigger concerns to move on to and this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU (hopefully) come sniffing around.
    He's not decommitting.
    This thread was summarized for people so they didn’t have to post anymore nonsense and here you come saying something we all know to be pretty obvious to open this thread back up. I hope an army ranger comes on here and pointlessly argues that he will decommit just so you hate yourself for reopening AIDZ.
    You literally just said this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU come sniffing around.

    It doesn't matter if they do.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid

    Summary: this was not a good job of recruiting but since we’ve gotten better our backup plans have gotten better. He’ll be fine but it doesn’t excuse not offering Raesjon Davis. We have much bigger concerns to move on to and this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU (hopefully) come sniffing around.
    He's not decommitting.
    Yes he will
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    edited July 2019
    dnc said:

    @Neighbor2972 do we have any verified sizes and/or times on McDonald?

    I couldn't find any, other than the 12 second 100
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    @Neighbor2972 do we have any verified sizes and/or times on McDonald?

    I couldn't find any, other than the 12 second 100
    gracias
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Wow last two pages has been ballz level stupid

    Summary: this was not a good job of recruiting but since we’ve gotten better our backup plans have gotten better. He’ll be fine but it doesn’t excuse not offering Raesjon Davis. We have much bigger concerns to move on to and this thread is dead until Mizzou or LSU (hopefully) come sniffing around.
    He's not decommitting.
    Yes he will
    Right after Yurosek commits.
    Duh
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    So im bored and watched the first 3 min of his highlights. If that is a competitive league he is in, he is a good player. The Tevis comparison is a softball one. Tevis was playing 8 man shit in Wyoming, dominating 5A and 6A Texas teams like that is like a highschool to D1 jump.

    Not a flashy commit but seems to be a good player. Physical.

    Whoa there, Ruth.
    Okay bro. Your joke about me not using the word dominating correctly is really funny, and also made me reconsider my eval. He definitely isnt putting the hit stick on kids, getting sacks, forcing turnovers, getting ints, and housing a shit ton of turnovers. Instead, this is what I see.

    Cooper is just a scrappy kid out there trying his hardest. Real lunch pail guy who makes up for his lack of natural ability by living in the weight room and doing compound lifts 3 times a day. He is the kind of kid the high school coach would let fuck his daughter. Kwat and Cooper bonded over their love of duck hunting and a tin of Copenhagen. Probably belongs at Portland State or EWU.

    Just admit that you love a real scrappy white kid that plays hard and makes plays at the HS level because he’s playing against a bunch of fat retards.

    Fucking doog. He sucks hth.
    You watched his film and think he sucks? Jesus. Ill leave it up to the resident 19 year old from now on!
    Yes, he sucks. Fucking duh. It’s literally a 6 foot roided up kid from the middle of nowhere texas that plays OLB.

    That just runs to the QB and goes airborne (2 ft off the ground) on every move. He’ll get eaten alive in college.

    JUST FUCKING CLOSE BOHTELO AND HERBIG YOU STUPID FUCK BOB GREGORY.
    You don’t know shit about Texas geography if you think he’s from fucking middle of nowhere Texas