Stop making excuses for Trump supporters

I find it ironic that everybody hates this women because you think she hates Jews, but really really hate her because she's Muslim.

And today's left thinks that is a you problem.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

Nazi - National Socialist Workers Party. Nazis were socialists, like you, AOC, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Strike One.

Nazis are defined by their hatred of Jews. All of the fascist clowns you support hate Jews and are allied with terrorists who kill Jews. Strike Two.

Nazis had a group of thugs that went around beating people up who didn't agree with them. They were called brownshirts. You have the anitifa black shirts.



Strike Three, You're Out.

Who's the Nazi?

Not quite. It's fun to play games with these words, but, still, not quite. It was a little more complicated than that, and the reason for that word in the title is a function of historical nuance that is not worth getting into.

Some were committed socialists, like Goebbels; but some were not, in particular, and importantly, Hitler. In fact, Goebbels, who everyone knows wanted to suck Hitler's cock, was disillusioned with the Fuhrer on this very point. They ran a totalitarian regime that existed in periods of recovery from severe economic turmoil and war time, during which government intervention was hardly evidence of socialism or anything. There is a lot of evidence to show that Hitler was, at best, very skeptical of socialism, and he was clearly entirely opposed to communism, which just lives in another part of the same town as socialism.

What we do know about the Nazis is that they were history's all-tim nationalists. What economic platform would have prevailed in a successful post-war German is anybody's guess.

So, the Nazi's belong as much to you and your crowd as they do to the lefty Squad's crowd.

Real Americans, like me, embrace capitalism and needn't worry about these tags. Come on over to my side. You'll feel better about yourself.

HustlinOwl said:

I find it ironic that everybody hates this women because you think she hates Jews, but really really hate her because she's Muslim.

Well yeah, duh.

All Muslims want to kill Jews

HoustonHusky said:

creepycoug said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

Nazi - National Socialist Workers Party. Nazis were socialists, like you, AOC, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Strike One.

Nazis are defined by their hatred of Jews. All of the fascist clowns you support hate Jews and are allied with terrorists who kill Jews. Strike Two.

Nazis had a group of thugs that went around beating people up who didn't agree with them. They were called brownshirts. You have the anitifa black shirts.



Strike Three, You're Out.

Who's the Nazi?

Not quite. It's fun to play games with these words, but, still, not quite. It was a little more complicated than that, and the reason for that word in the title is a function of historical nuance that is not worth getting into.

Some were committed socialists, like Goebbels; but some were not, in particular, and importantly, Hitler. In fact, Goebbels, who everyone knows wanted to suck Hitler's cock, was disillusioned with the Fuhrer on this very point. They ran a totalitarian regime that existed in periods of recovery from severe economic turmoil and war time, during which government intervention was hardly evidence of socialism or anything. There is a lot of evidence to show that Hitler was, at best, very skeptical of socialism, and he was clearly entirely opposed to communism, which just lives in another part of the same town as socialism.

What we do know about the Nazis is that they were history's all-tim nationalists. What economic platform would have prevailed in a successful post-war German is anybody's guess.

So, the Nazi's belong as much to you and your crowd as they do to the lefty Squad's crowd.

Real Americans, like me, embrace capitalism and needn't worry about these tags. Come on over to my side. You'll feel better about yourself.

I love the ‘so far Left it must be right’ argument.

Call it whatever you want...Socialism/Communism/“Nationalism”...but they all end up with a few in the political class running everything and telling everyone else how to live (until they eventually collapse on themselves). Which is anything but modern Libertarianism and classic “Conservatism”.

Why do you love it? At any rate, I don't think that's at all what's in my post; it neither explicit nor implied.

I'm not saying it's clean, and I'm pretty clear Hitler would trump any individual's rights to anything ... property, liberty, anything ... in the name of nationalism or power. Still, we know Goebbels was a socialist and Hitler was, at best, skeptical of it. We also know he was no Marxist. His debates with Strasser seem relevant.

Hitler: “What you call socialism is a purely Marxist vision. The system that you erect is academic work, it doesn’t correspond to the reality of life. The head of the enterprise is dependent on his workforce, the willingness of his workers to participate in a common effort. If they strike, his property is worthless. On the other hand, by what right could they claim a part of this property, even to participate in decisions? Mister Amann, would you accept it if your stenographers suddenly wanted to take part in your decisions? The employer is responsible for production, and assures the workers their subsistence. Our great heads of industry are not concerned with the accumulation of wealth and the good life, rather they are concerned with responsibility and power. They have acquired this right by natural selection: they are members of the higher race. But you would surround them with a council of incompetents, who have no notion of anything. No economic leader can accept that.”

I think what we call it is somewhat important. It's a little disingenuous to decry that AOC, who's admittedly making a horse's ass out of herself, is a Nazi because "socialism", when it's not clear that the head of the Third Reich believed in it as a viable option.

All the while ignoring or passing on overt nationalist racism that has seen renewed expression in the US. See, e.g., the overtly racist nationalism of OBK, who is on record here in this forum as saying that people 'like me' are welcome here in "reasonable numbers" because this isn't a "Latino country", but just so long as we know our place and watch what we say to real Americans. You can find volumes of his other work in which his dim view of brown people is patently evident. Along with those charming views are several arguments that stack up pretty firmly against capitalism, free markets, and the right of winners to win. If that fucker isn't a modern expression of at least soft Nazi nationalism, then it doesn't exist.

I don't think what Trump said to the squad was rooted in racism, nor do I think it was technically racist. But if you are one of the Tug's Trump goons who don't think there's a healthy amount of racist nationalism behind him when those flames are fanned, then you're not the guy who handed Berkeley Bob his ass on the Reagan discussion a couple years back. You're somebody else with that guy's handle.

The twisting and turning democrats go through to change history and distance themselves from ugly associations, behavior and past is fascinating . The fact is, throughout history "socialism" has had many versions attempted. The textbook definition has never existed. Hitler had his own version of "socialism" just like every communist country has had their own version of communism. It is impossible to move from freedom to communism or socialism without an initial totalitarian movement that forces all those that don't want that change to accept it. Hence the 100 million or so that have been starved and slaughtered by communists/socialists.

2001400ex said:

Bendintheriver said:

The twisting and turning democrats go through to change history and distance themselves from ugly associations, behavior and past is fascinating . The fact is, throughout history "socialism" has had many versions attempted. The textbook definition has never existed. Hitler had his own version of "socialism" just like every communist country has had their own version of communism. It is impossible to move from freedom to communism or socialism without an initial totalitarian movement that forces all those that don't want that change to accept it. Hence the 100 million or so that have been starved and slaughtered by communists/socialists.

You are truly scared they pussy liberals are going to kill you. That's awesome man.

And you have nothing to add here so you resort to 3rd grade name calling. You are the bottom of the liberal barrel. A non-thinking follower.

No one should want socialism. It doesn't work and the violence it takes to enact it is well documented throughout our history. Only idiots want to repeat that history.