If we? Go to war with Iran
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everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.SFGbob said:
You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.dhdawg said:
LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.SFGbob said:
You guys are brainwashed.
So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it. -
Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?dhdawg said:
everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.SFGbob said:
You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.dhdawg said:
LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.SFGbob said:
You guys are brainwashed.
So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it. -
Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.
Logic - try it sometime -
the Ayatollah and the far right, religious extremist clerics do not want peace. The president, Rouhani, with whom Obama brokered the deal against the wishes of that faction, wants peace.SFGbob said:
Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?dhdawg said:
everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.SFGbob said:
You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.dhdawg said:
LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.SFGbob said:
You guys are brainwashed.
So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
Tearing up that agreement and imposing sanctions undermined Rouhani and empowered the Ayatollah. -
Ah the fabled moderate Iranians
JFC -
https://nypost.com/2016/05/05/playing-the-press-and-the-public-for-chumps-to-sell-the-iran-deal/
Congratulations, liberals of the Washington press corps and elite organizations: You’re a bunch of suckers. We all know this because the Obama White House just told us so.
In an astounding New York Times piece by David Samuels, senior White House officials gleefully confess they use friendly reporters and nonprofits as public relations tools in the selling of President Obama’s foreign policy — and can do it almost at will because these tools are ignorant, will believe what they’re told, will essentially take dictation and are happy to be used just to get the information necessary for a tweet or two.
Their greatest triumph, according to Samuels, was selling a misleading narrative about the nuclear deal with Iran — the parameters of which were set a year before the administration claimed and which had nothing to do with the fact that a supposedly more accommodating government had risen to power.
The mastermind of the Obama machine is Ben Rhodes, a New Yorker who joined the Obama campaign as a speechwriter in 2007 and has risen to become the most influential foreign-policy hand in the White House.
Rhodes drips with contempt for almost everyone but his boss. He consigns all those who do not share every particular of the Obama-Rhodes foreign-policy perspective to a gelatinous mass called “The Blob” — including, Samuels writes, Hillary Clinton.
He thinks as little of them as he does of the journalists he and his team must spoon-feed. “The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns,” Rhodes says. “They literally know nothing.”
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The Mullahs hand pick who will be the President and this idiot thinks they have some autonomy and authority outside of what the Mullahs allow them to have.dhdawg said:
the Ayatollah and the far right, religious extremist clerics do not want peace. The president, Rouhani, with whom Obama brokered the deal against the wishes of that faction, wants peace.SFGbob said:
Oh yeah, Iran's interested in peace. Why didn't Obama submit his deal to the Senate for ratification?dhdawg said:
everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.SFGbob said:
You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.dhdawg said:
LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.SFGbob said:
You guys are brainwashed.
So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
Tearing up that agreement and imposing sanctions undermined Rouhani and empowered the Ayatollah. -
Every government in Europe knows nothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html
“Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
“They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said. -
Cocked and loaded potd.RaceBannon said:Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.
Logic - try it sometime
Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice. -
Gosh, we should just farm our foreign policy out to the Europeans.
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Why don't you go over and surrender pussyCirrhosisDawg said:
Cocked and loaded potd.RaceBannon said:Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.
Logic - try it sometime
Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
Or draw a line in the sand -
Sure. Kori sounds like Ben Rhodesdhdawg said:Every government in Europe knows nothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html
“Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
“They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said.
They have been lying from day 1
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isolationism is great. Pretty soon the only allies we'll have left are Israel and Saudi Arabia. that'll be awesomeSFGbob said:Gosh, we should just farm our foreign policy out to the Europeans.
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Team hondo is coordinated with the euro talking points
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Trump is playing chess while Iran is playing checkers.RaceBannon said:
Why don't you go over and surrender pussyCirrhosisDawg said:
Cocked and loaded potd.RaceBannon said:Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.
Logic - try it sometime
Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
Or draw a line in the sand -
Your playing with your fecesCirrhosisDawg said:
Trump is playing chess while Iran is playing checkers.RaceBannon said:
Why don't you go over and surrender pussyCirrhosisDawg said:
Cocked and loaded potd.RaceBannon said:Still not seeing why if the deal is so TOUGH on Iran they want it back so bad.
Logic - try it sometime
Iran’s provocations have isolated the US from any ally other than Israel and trump’s friends in the house of saud. They’ve also exposed trump threats as meaningless bluster and cowardice.
Or draw a line in the sand -
You and hondo should get a room.HardlyClothed said:So we’re clear on Bob’s foreign policy chops his preferred post-9/11 course of action was to start wars with Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. Countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t threaten the US. Chickenhawk moron.
Just be sure it's not in Alabama or Missouri. Because should one of you actually figure out how to get it in, we want to extinguish any chance of that deformed demon seed seeing the light of day -
If you want to work for the International Institute for Strategic Studies you have to be a globalist and tilt left. Hardly shocking that you'd find someone who works for them who is willing to blame the US. It's the default position for most all leftists.RaceBannon said:
Sure. Kori sounds like Ben Rhodesdhdawg said:Every government in Europe knows nothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/europe/war-iran-europe-iraq.html
“Every single European government believes that the increased threat we’re seeing from Iran now is a reaction to the United States leaving the Iran nuclear agreement and trying to force Iranian capitulation on other issues,” said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who is now deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
“They believe that the U.S. is the provocateur and they worry that the U.S. is reacting so stridently to predictable Iranian actions in order to provide a pretext for a U.S. attack on Iran,” Ms. Schake said.
They have been lying from day 1
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No one here would have opposed one of your Dads pulling out of the other one.dhdawg said:
everyone country and leader the world actually interested in peace.SFGbob said:
You mean the deal Obama couldn't even get ratified in the Senate? Who are the "everyone" that opposed blowing up that deal? You mean every leftist? It was a shit deal and that's why Obama didn't bother to try and get it ratified like any other treaty because he knew he'd never get through the Senate.dhdawg said:
LOL yes blaming the person who blew up the Iran deal, a move everyone else opposed, as being responsible for rising tensions = hating one's country.SFGbob said:
You guys are brainwashed.
So not Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican Party. Even some republicans who opposed the deal opposed pulling out of it.
Take that to the bank. -
Imagine taking the opinion of the international community writ large into account when making military decisions with global implications.RaceBannon said:Team hondo is coordinated with the euro talking points
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I don't know but his (alleged) father's side is all Muslim.WilburHooksHands said:
Is he Shia or Sunni? I always get it mixed up.Sledog said:The deal gave Iran nukes within 10 years. That's why we pulled out. Obama wanted them to have nukes. He is at a minimum a Muslim sympathizer.
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The international community. Right
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This is all being drummed up so Trump can call himself the great peacemaker, its just how he works. The North Korea situation called...
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Iran is working with Trump
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Im just saying minus a drone being shot down, we’ve seen the Twitter threats before being flipped around into some act of heroism PR. In that case it lead to a summit, in this case its lead (so far) to him announcing he vetoed a strike that would have killed 150 people. Developing...RaceBannon said:Iran is working with Trump
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And a tanker attacked
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Trump was cocked and loaded.
Then Iran called his bluff, our allies told him to fuck off, and Putin told him to stand down.
Ten minutes later, trump capitulates. -
We owe it to the international community to defend the tanker
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What's it like to hate your country?CirrhosisDawg said:Trump was cocked and loaded.
Then Iran called his bluff, our allies told him to fuck off, and Putin told him to stand down.
Ten minutes later, trump capitulates. -
You tell me?RaceBannon said:
What's it like to hate your country?CirrhosisDawg said:Trump was cocked and loaded.
Then Iran called his bluff, our allies told him to fuck off, and Putin told him to stand down.
Ten minutes later, trump capitulates.
