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Hell of an argument. Which leads me to believe you don’t have one. Other than emotional hysterics.allpurpleallgold said:
You also think taxes are theft so, you know, you’re an idiot.MikeDamone said:
Or a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
Or an interment camp. -
My argument is the definition of words.MikeDamone said:
Hell of an argument. Which leads me to believe you don’t have one. Other than emotional hysterics.allpurpleallgold said:
You also think taxes are theft so, you know, you’re an idiot.MikeDamone said:
Or a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
Or an interment camp. -
If you support the democrats, you are a racist, stupid, bigot and a manchild
If you're a woman and a democrat that's fine. You get a pass for getting hysterical about things time to time.
Case closed.
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It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice. -
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument. -
The US has done more to raise the standard of living of billions in the 3rd world than any civilization in the history of the species. We can’t save everyone.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I agree with everything else you said, but come the fuck on. These parents are faced with a desperation and hopelessness that I doubt any of us have ever experienced. Resorting to migrating thousands of miles in search for a better life is one of the bravest things a parent can do. That doesn't change the fact that we still need to turn them away. Hate the game, not the player.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so. -
Expect you’re using them wrong in an emotional and hysterical meltdown.allpurpleallgold said:
My argument is the definition of words.MikeDamone said:
Hell of an argument. Which leads me to believe you don’t have one. Other than emotional hysterics.allpurpleallgold said:
You also think taxes are theft so, you know, you’re an idiot.MikeDamone said:
Or a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
Or an interment camp. -
Ironic because you've been failing at it whilst pissing all over yourself all week.allpurpleallgold said:
My argument is the definition of words.MikeDamone said:
Hell of an argument. Which leads me to believe you don’t have one. Other than emotional hysterics.allpurpleallgold said:
You also think taxes are theft so, you know, you’re an idiot.MikeDamone said:
Or a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
Or an interment camp. -
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you. -
No.allpurpleallgold said:Doogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
@dncDoogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.
Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.
Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.
People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.
There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. They all had the option to check-in at the border before they crossed. They opted out of that methodology.
A poont you flagrantly ignore. -
And whatever we do to them after they make that choice is fine.pawz said:
No.allpurpleallgold said:Doogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
@dncDoogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.
Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.
Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.
People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.
There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. They all had the option to check-in at the border before they crossed. They opted out of that methodology.
A poont you flagrantly ignore. -
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.allpurpleallgold said:
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you. -
APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board. -
Any bets on if he voiced opposition to these detention centers when Obama was operating them?MikeDamone said:APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board. -
Describes about 5% of the posters on Hardcore Huskyallpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
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@allpurpleallgold
Want to give us your solution or do you just want to keep shitting on your fellow Americans?
Open borders?
Say it -
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?SFGbob said:
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.allpurpleallgold said:
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human. -
They weren't concentration camps then. They were like summer camps with crafts, swimming, and sing alongs. Certainly no kids had wet pants as they do in concentration camps.SFGbob said:
Any bets on if he voiced opposition to these detention centers when Obama was operating them?MikeDamone said:APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board. -
5?DerekJohnson said:
Describes about 5% of the posters on Hardcore Huskyallpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
The judges would have accepted 99.81% -
I might go as high as 10%pawz said:
5?DerekJohnson said:
Describes about 5% of the posters on Hardcore Huskyallpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
The judges would have accepted 99.81% -
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor systemallpurpleallgold said:
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?SFGbob said:
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.allpurpleallgold said:
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human. -
Which is what APAG wants but he just want do away with any detention and just allow them to come straight on in.RaceBannon said:
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor systemallpurpleallgold said:
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?SFGbob said:
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.allpurpleallgold said:
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human. -
I'm disappointed he won't admit itSFGbob said:
Which is what APAG wants but he just want do away with any detention and just allow them to come straight on in.RaceBannon said:
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor systemallpurpleallgold said:
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?SFGbob said:
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.allpurpleallgold said:
Yawn.SFGbob said:
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."allpurpleallgold said:
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.SFGbob said:
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human. -
Awkward.RaceBannon said:"Activist" groups have been all over Central America forming caravans and telling "migrants" what to expect when they willingly walk into a death camp and how they will get out. One example
https://nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/living-conditions-immigration-detention-centers.html
Physical Surroundings at Immigration Detention Centers
In most cases, men and women are housed separately; although there are also a number of family detention facilities, which primarily house women and child asylum seekers. Some detention centers have immigration courts and asylum offices inside the same buildings.
Not only do detention centers feel like prisons, in many cases, they are actually housed in correctional facilities, which are either operated by the federal government, the state, or an outsourced private company. Also, until you are released on bond or "reasonable supervision" or are granted the right to remain lawfully in the U.S., you may not know for how long you will be detained.
Do not let this discourage you. Instead, keep focusing on preparing a strong application in your defense, such as an application for asylum. Try to obtain as much information about the possibility for a bond hearing or to be released on a supervision order—your lawyer or a legal aid organization can help you with this.
Living conditions are difficult at detention centers. You will likely be transported to a detention center in handcuffs, and sometimes in shackles. Many of your personal belongings will be taken away from you, and you will be assigned a specific bed. The guards will then refer to you based on the number of your bed or using your alien registration number.
You will most likely have to wear a jumpsuit uniform, and you will be guarded by uniformed officers. You will not be able to move around freely. You will sleep in a large room, with other detainees. Your privacy will be limited. Throughout the day, the guards will conduct several “counts” (during which you will be required to be next to your bed, while they are counting all the detainees). During “count” times, you will not be able to meet with visitors. Also, if you are meeting with visitors or your attorney during meal times, you might not be provided with food later.
Due to their remote location, some detention centers are far away from immigration courts. Instead of seeing your Immigration Judge, you might have any interviews and hearings conducted through video conferences.
AOC has blood on her hands -
How so?
Are you denying that courts have set a limit and illegals get released if they aren't a criminal?
Ready to share your solution yet? -
Stop treating the ICE agents like the Gestapo and you might be worth engaging on the subject. But you Lefties can't not demonize regular American citizens simply for doing their jobs as best they can, under very difficult conditions.allpurpleallgold said:
And whatever we do to them after they make that choice is fine.pawz said:
No.allpurpleallgold said:Doogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.pawz said:
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?allpurpleallgold said:
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.pawz said:
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.allpurpleallgold said:
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.pawz said:APAG really struggling in this thread.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
@dncDoogles said:
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.allpurpleallgold said:
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”Doogles said:
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.allpurpleallgold said:
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.RaceBannon said:Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
Fuck off.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.
Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.
Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.
People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.
There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. They all had the option to check-in at the border before they crossed. They opted out of that methodology.
A poont you flagrantly ignore.
And did I mention that a huge number of Border Patrol agents are Hispanic? -
You really are one of the softest little bitches I've encountered in the cyberworld. No rudder, no backbone, no real mind of your own. Like a little dandelion seed. Wherever the wind tells you to go.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.PurpleThrobber said:
Obviously you’ve never parented.allpurpleallgold said:Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
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Build the camps on Mercer Island.RaceBannon said:@allpurpleallgold
Want to give us your solution or do you just want to keep shitting on your fellow Americans?
Open borders?
Say it
Such a warm, inviting and diverse community. Should fit in well. -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/immigration/hundreds-of-minors-held-at-us-border-facilities-are-there-beyond-legal-time-limits/2019/05/30/381cf6da-8235-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html?outputType=ampRaceBannon said:How so?
Are you denying that courts have set a limit and illegals get released if they aren't a criminal?
Ready to share your solution yet?
It’s cute that you think Trump and his cronies give a fuck about what the courts say.
Just like a boomer to shit all over the place and then demand a millennial clean it up. We can start by abolishing ICE. -
So there is a legal time limit
Thank you
Because the crush of migration at the southern border in recent months has overwhelmed U.S. immigration infrastructure, initial incarceration for the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children who have arrived there has averaged four days, the officials said.
“I don’t have any beds, because we’re meant to be short-term processing — not even holding,” one CBP official said of the agency’s facilities here in the Rio Grande Valley, at which some children are sleeping on mats on the floor. “I have stools and benches, but I have no beds. . . . Our facilities are not built for long-term holding, and they’re certainly not built to house children for very long at all.”
That blood is on your team's hands
And thank you for admitting you want open borders. Agree to disagree
I'll let the ageist crap go