Carson Bruener, 4* 2020 LB, Redmond (HS), WA (COMMITTED)
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#MeToo but in the burbs it was 6th gradednc said:
Facetious was a vocabulary word for us in 8th grade English. And I went to middle school in the hood.DoogCourics said:backthepack said:
It’s obviously a facetious question.lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?

Damn BTP, I didn’t know you knew those kind of words! Bravo!
(And no I am not being facetious, I’m really impressed)
Fuck our ever society and it’s ever lowering standards.
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Amazing. SAC is a treasure around these parts.
Secretly Derek is fist pumping and thankful everyday that the forums carry themselves with SAC around leading the charge -
One guy could be a coincidence. But three is a pattern.FremontTroll said:
This lesson in coincidences brought to you by the purveyor of the idea that "100% chance Cristobal had Shipley announce to reduce impact of Rosengarten" based solely on the timing.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision. -
Sure but you even said “if the coaches offer another LB, then your argument is valid.” You know how stupid you sound but you’re trying to find anything to hold onto like “we don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes”. Just fucking say Bob Gregory sucks and couldn’t even talk kids into a free all expenses paid trip to visit us.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision.
I’m done on this because I think Bruener is a good player who should’ve had an offer all along, but JFC SAC you’re lowering the standards soooooo much when you find every excuse in the world to not land your first offers AND GO DOWN THE LIST. -
One event occurring at similar time to two unrelated events in a different program= THREE and a pattern.StrongArmCobra said:
One guy could be a coincidence. But three is a pattern.FremontTroll said:
This lesson in coincidences brought to you by the purveyor of the idea that "100% chance Cristobal had Shipley announce to reduce impact of Rosengarten" based solely on the timing.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision.
Three events logically leading directly to a fourth event= coincidence we don't know whats happening behind the scenes. -
I said you would have reason to bitch and you do. I think Bruener is pretty good, but he's not as talented as any of the 2021 kids they've offered because he's likely gonna struggle keeping good weight on in college, whereas all of those 2021 guys are already in the 220's and holding that weight with ease and moving well. That's what the bitching should be about. Taking a guy who's less talented than the 2021 guys and going to be buried behind the 2019 class. It makes no sense.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Sure but you even said “if the coaches offer another LB, then your argument is valid.” You know how stupid you sound but you’re trying to find anything to hold onto like “we don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes”. Just fucking say Bob Gregory sucks and couldn’t even talk kids into a free all expenses paid trip to visit us.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision.
I’m done on this because I think Bruener is a good player who should’ve had an offer all along, but JFC SAC you’re lowering the standards soooooo much when you find every excuse in the world to not land your first offers AND GO DOWN THE LIST.
Herbig said he loved Bob Gregory so I don't know what happened. I think Bob Gregory sucks at recruiting in general, but that was the one recruitment in which the kid actually really liked him. It still makes zero sense for UW to be such a strong favorite and leader for him at one point and just a few months later not get an OV, unless they backed off of him. -
You seriously can't reconcile those statements? You think thats a contradiction?StrongArmCobra said:
I said you would have reason to bitch and you do. I think Bruener is pretty good, but he's not as talented as any of the 2021 kids they've offered because he's gonna struggle keeping good weight on in college whereas all of those guys are already in the 220's and holding that weight with ease. That's what the bitching should be about. Taking a guy who's less talented than the 2021 guys and going to be buried behind the 2019 class. It makes no sense.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Sure but you even said “if the coaches offer another LB, then your argument is valid.” You know how stupid you sound but you’re trying to find anything to hold onto like “we don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes”. Just fucking say Bob Gregory sucks and couldn’t even talk kids into a free all expenses paid trip to visit us.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision.
I’m done on this because I think Bruener is a good player who should’ve had an offer all along, but JFC SAC you’re lowering the standards soooooo much when you find every excuse in the world to not land your first offers AND GO DOWN THE LIST.
Herbig said he loved Bob Gregory so I don't know what happened. I think Bob Gregory sucks at recruiting in general, but that was the one recruitment in which the kid actually really liked him.
99% of the time the kid likes all the people recruiting him from his finalists or will at least say so to the recruiting "press" otherwise why would they be finalists?
He still has to choose one coach/staff to commit to and we all know Gregory can't close.
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He has closed bigger ILB recruits than Herbig and beaten better programs than Wisconsin for kids. I think that was mostly the program and defense recruiting itself, but your argument doesn't hold water when Gregory closed Daniel Heimuli as well as Kaho and To'oto'o before money got involved with both of their fathers selling them to SEC schools.FremontTroll said:
You seriously can't reconcile those statements? You think thats a contradiction?StrongArmCobra said:
I said you would have reason to bitch and you do. I think Bruener is pretty good, but he's not as talented as any of the 2021 kids they've offered because he's gonna struggle keeping good weight on in college whereas all of those guys are already in the 220's and holding that weight with ease. That's what the bitching should be about. Taking a guy who's less talented than the 2021 guys and going to be buried behind the 2019 class. It makes no sense.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Sure but you even said “if the coaches offer another LB, then your argument is valid.” You know how stupid you sound but you’re trying to find anything to hold onto like “we don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes”. Just fucking say Bob Gregory sucks and couldn’t even talk kids into a free all expenses paid trip to visit us.StrongArmCobra said:
Bruener could have been in line for an offer this Summer regardless of Herbig's commitment to Wisconsin tho. We don't know with 100% certainty the two are related.insinceredawg said:
This will be my last post on this topic as I have no interest going around in circles for 10 pages with you. You're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but the most obvious and clear sign that we missed on him is right in front of us. Herbig committed to Wisconsin and a week later we're offering Bruener. Even a retard like Eklund can connect the dots here.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wrong about not taking any ILB's this class. I will concede that.insinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?
Herbig said himself that he was for sure taking an OV to UW back in March and yet it was never scheduled. He didn't turn them down. If he had scheduled an OV with them for 6/7 or 6/22, we would have heard about it. UW didn't offer to visit him when it was obvious they needed to.
Nobody knows everything that goes on behind the scenes. The kid could have posted something on snapchat that was dumb and got his offer pulled from UW. We don't know. But common sense says UW was enough of a favorite to get an OV if they wanted one before he made his decision.
I’m done on this because I think Bruener is a good player who should’ve had an offer all along, but JFC SAC you’re lowering the standards soooooo much when you find every excuse in the world to not land your first offers AND GO DOWN THE LIST.
Herbig said he loved Bob Gregory so I don't know what happened. I think Bob Gregory sucks at recruiting in general, but that was the one recruitment in which the kid actually really liked him.
99% of the time the kid likes all the people recruiting him from his finalists or will at least say so to the recruiting "press" otherwise why would they be finalists?
He still has to choose one coach/staff to commit to and we all know Gregory can't close.
Not that complicated. Gregory is a good friend and mentor to Herbig. Not a closer. -
This will make me sound really Doogish, but what if Malloe/Gregory did go all out on Botelho/Herbig, but ND and Wisco just out-recruited them and those dudes just liked the situations at ND and Wisco better? After all, Herbig is on record saying how much he liked how Wisconsin used TJ Watt. I mean, I guess Gregory could have sold him harder so he could say "I love how they used BBK," but it's less likely.LaMichael_Corleone said:Lol why didn’t he come on a visit? Maybe because other schools did a better job of prioritizing his visit and contact above spring ball. When you have a question as glaring as “why didn’t he come for an official” it usually leads to an answer just as if not more glaring of, “we didn’t recruit him hard enough”
Why didn’t Botelho OV when he was a silent?
Why didn’t Flowe UV when he has Oregon and ASU in his top 12?
Because uhhh the coaches just didn’t want them randomly. Yeah makes sense. They wanted Bruener this whole time and did all that work to “EXCLUSIVELY” offer those three guys before everyone else just to drop them all cuz they suck. -
Holy shit you actually admitted it. This is great progress, proud of you Ballz.StrongArmCobra said:
I was wronginsinceredawg said:
So either he turned them down on an OV visit on the 6/7 weekend or he was planning to visit the 6/21 weekend. Either way, he ended up committing to Wisconsin and a week later we're about to offer Bruener who is probably the next ILB on our board after Herbig came off. This theory makes way more sense than your "we cooled on him cause we're not taking any ILBs this class" theory.StrongArmCobra said:
Because UW has another big OV visit weekend this weekend. Duh. They were in position to get his last OV before he made a decision if they wanted to. They took themselves out of the race for whatever reason. We'll never know why.insinceredawg said:
How do you know he didn't turn down an OV to Seattle to go to Madison instead? He visited the Badgers the same weekend as St Pete's Day Massacre.StrongArmCobra said:
If they wanted him. They would've brought him in for an OV. We'll never know why they didn't. Kid was in love with UW.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Acknowledge we didn’t drop Herbig or die.StrongArmCobra said:
Big loss for Oregon if UW offers their top realistic ILB target. Who's Oregon gonna get?lawsandl said:
Your answer is in the Herbig thread. If an ILB offer followed shortly thereafter, he was a miss.LaMichael_Corleone said:So wait did we drop Herbig then in order to not take an LB’s this year or did we hold off on offering to in fact keep space open for Herbig?





