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The most cost-effective way to help the homeless is to give them homes

Gwad
Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions?

Addressing housing directly is cheaper than relying on cops and emergency rooms.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Work camps and enforcing the vagrancy laws is even cheaper
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    And what do you do when after you've given the homeless a home they've turned it into a complete shit-hole drug den where they now have a place to turn tricks and do drugs all day. Give them a new place?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    For the ones who want help, yes. But speaking about Seattle, there's still far too many homeless folks who don't give a shit and will prefer their life of substance abuse and crime until forced to stop. Incarceration or forced treatment is the only viable solution for them.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    For the ones who want help, yes. But speaking about Seattle, there's still far too many homeless folks who don't give a shit and will prefer their life of substance abuse and crime until forced to stop. Incarceration or forced treatment is the only viable solution for them.

    If you truly want help there's already assistance for you. All this will end up doing is giving the homeless homes that they will in short order turn into complete shit-holes. And how would you like to be the poor homeowner or property owner that had to live next door or near this human shit show.

    Do you really believe that someone who is so far around the bend they are shitting and fucking in the streets is going to be able to pull it enough together to take care of an apartment or house? These homeless homes would quickly make the more hellish public housing units look like an upscale suburb.


  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Honestly they need a reality show where they take people like SFGbob and make them homeless. Then have them claw their way back into society.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited June 2019
    Gwad said:

    Honestly they need a reality show where they take people like SFGbob and make them homeless. Then have them claw their way back into society.

    You know what we don't need, another bleeding heart liberal who loves to show how caring and compassionate he is by spending other people's money. You make me homeless, I'd be employed and back into housing in less than a week.

    Most people aren't Homeless just because they lack money and only idiotic liberals who don't really want to fix the problem believe they are.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Bob would be dead within a week.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Right now you're just talking that shit. Go lead by example big boy pants anonymous forum poster guy.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Bob would be dead within a week.

    Yeah, the guy who has worked full time since he was 13 years old, has lived on my own since I was 16, put myself through college, and have worked pretty much ever since I graduated from college with the longest period I've ever not had a job being two weeks when I first moved to LA, I just wouldn't know how to survive.

    I'd say the teat sucking liberal who wants the Federal government to pay for their healthcare and college and wipe their own fucking ass at every turn is the one who'd have problems making it.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    SFGbob said:

    Bob would be dead within a week.

    Yeah, the guy who has worked full time since he was 13 years old, has lived on my own since I was 16, put myself through college, and have worked pretty much ever since I graduated from college with the longest period I've ever not had a job being two weeks when I first moved to LA, I just wouldn't know how to survive.

    I'd say the teat sucking liberal who wants the Federal government to pay for their healthcare and college and wipe their own fucking ass at every turn is the one who'd have problems making it.
    Yes the lack of time for introspection is quite apparent. We believe you big guy.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Gwad said:

    https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions?

    Addressing housing directly is cheaper than relying on cops and emergency rooms.

    What does any of this shit have to do with legalizing mushrooms and LSD?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    salemcoog said:

    Gwad said:

    https://www.vox.com/2014/5/30/5764096/homeless-shelter-housing-help-solutions?

    Addressing housing directly is cheaper than relying on cops and emergency rooms.

    What does any of this shit have to do with legalizing mushrooms and LSD?
    Chinned.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
    Conjecture.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited June 2019
    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bob would be dead within a week.

    Yeah, the guy who has worked full time since he was 13 years old, has lived on my own since I was 16, put myself through college, and have worked pretty much ever since I graduated from college with the longest period I've ever not had a job being two weeks when I first moved to LA, I just wouldn't know how to survive.

    I'd say the teat sucking liberal who wants the Federal government to pay for their healthcare and college and wipe their own fucking ass at every turn is the one who'd have problems making it.
    Yes the lack of time for introspection is quite apparent. We believe you big guy.
    Anyone who believes that the solution to homelessness is giving people homes knows nothing about human nature and learned nothing from the failures of the 1960s welfare state.


    People aren't homeless just because they lack money, just like poor people aren't poor just because they lack money. For the people out on the street who are mentally ill I'm fully in favor of putting them into well funded mental institutions. Giving the remaining people homes is nothing more than a guarantee to increase the number of "homeless" and to create housing areas rife with drug abuse, crime and dysfunction.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited June 2019
    Do we exempt them from property taxes? Mine are about $400 per month.

    Not to mention water, electricity, gas, sewer garbage bills and any repairs.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
    Conjecture.
    Go take a look at any reservation; subsidized housing was provided and most of it is falling apart from lack of maintenance. People don’t respect what they don’t earn; that’s human nature.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    Most are there because they want to be. They have no wish to work or anything else. It's all about getting drunk, high etc. and not having to give two shits about anything else. Some have mental issues but the courts have deemed them unworthy to be locked up long ago.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    USMChawk said:

    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
    Gwad said:

    SFGbob said:

    Gwad said:

    Its cost effective, so I'm actually conservative. Please don't assume my political affiliation.

    Yeah, it's cost effective to give people a home that they will then shortly destroy thus necessitating the cost of another home. People that shit in the fucking street and do drugs all day, make for very responsible home owners and tenets
    Conjecture.
    Go take a look at any reservation; subsidized housing was provided and most of it is falling apart from lack of maintenance. People don’t respect what they don’t earn; that’s human nature.
    You've had to have lived a pretty fucking sheltered up bring to not know this.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,089 Founders Club

    What a great idea. I wonder why no one has thought of that before.


    End thred.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    What a great idea. I wonder why no one has thought of that before.


    End thred.
    If you were forced to live in public housing who's population was made up of homeless people who where just given "free" housing by the state those kind of projects would seem like a suburban paradise.

  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    Bob would be dead within a week.

    Yeah, the guy who has worked full time since he was 13 years old, has lived on my own since I was 16, put myself through college, and have worked pretty much ever since I graduated from college with the longest period I've ever not had a job being two weeks when I first moved to LA, I just wouldn't know how to survive.

    I'd say the teat sucking liberal who wants the Federal government to pay for their healthcare and college and wipe their own fucking ass at every turn is the one who'd have problems making it.
    Now we know why you’re so angry.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Bob would be dead within a week.

    Yeah, the guy who has worked full time since he was 13 years old, has lived on my own since I was 16, put myself through college, and have worked pretty much ever since I graduated from college with the longest period I've ever not had a job being two weeks when I first moved to LA, I just wouldn't know how to survive.

    I'd say the teat sucking liberal who wants the Federal government to pay for their healthcare and college and wipe their own fucking ass at every turn is the one who'd have problems making it.
    Now we know why you’re so angry.
    Funny how you believe that someone who is independent and self-reliant and who isn't looking for a handout from anyone is "angry."

    You Kunts can't even envision a world where you're responsible for your own medical care and college education and retirement.
  • ZoneUW
    ZoneUW Member Posts: 794

    For the ones who want help, yes. But speaking about Seattle, there's still far too many homeless folks who don't give a shit and will prefer their life of substance abuse and crime until forced to stop. Incarceration or forced treatment is the only viable solution for them.

    I’ve always thought the homeless epidemic was more about drug abuse than available housing.

    Now I’m a major proponent of building more housing, and development in general.

    But lots of these people (I’ve interviewed some) are too addled by drugs to thrive if given a home. The sad truth is they’d probably just sit inside and inject heroin until they died. That’s not really solving the problem.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Now I’m a major proponent of building more housing, and development in general.

    If only those damn Conservatives would stop thwarting you libs, right Zone?
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    I'm going to take the conservative side on this one. Forget the free housing, it's better to ignore the problem and complain about it all day. Maybe build a wall to keep them out of the nice places.