Trump’s Gambit starts to pay off. Mexico pledges 6,000 troops to It’s Southern Border

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

You're trying to fix the symptom not the disease.

HustlinOwl said:

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

You're trying to fix the symptom not the disease.

Fuck off Donkey and get back in your truck.

Sledog said:

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

So you want to take on another 100 million welfare recipients??? No thanks. I'd be all for taking the coasts though. They can have the rest. We don't need their oil.

salemcoog said:

Sledog said:

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

So you want to take on another 100 million welfare recipients??? No thanks. I'd be all for taking the coasts though. They can have the rest. We don't need their oil.

No we push them all south of the Panama canal. We take no one. Unless Throbber thinks they're hot....

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

Honestly, I don't know how to stop it. I'm fundamentally opposed to almost anything that runs contrary to free trade and don't think tariffs will work as a negotiating tactics. Meanwhile domestic businesses will only get hurt in the process. But if Trump follows through at least I can put that hypothesis to the test and we'll find out if this is an effective mechanism or not.

Outside of that I suppose you could reallocate aid dollars to countries like Honduras and El Salvador and try to stem the problem at the source. But given our illustrious history of attempts to help other countries, the real unfucking will have to come from the countries themselves.

So all that's to say I don't think you really can incentivize Mexico to do much. We reap the punishment of the migration, and I don't think there's too many levers for us to pull unless we really want to go nuclear on them (and any politician who does that will never recover from the anti-business branding they'll get, and Mexico knows it). We're at their mercy whether we like it or not.

Land mines!

Everyone sneaking in are harmless.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border

Nothing to see.

2001400ex said:

DJDuck said:

Sledog said:

DJDuck said:

Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.

Migrants’ Remittances to Mexico, Central America Jump to $53 Billion in 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/

Mexicans will pay for the wall!

Taxing Remittances Can Build the Wall

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/tax_remittances_can_build_the_wall.html

“Why is the country whose oppression they are allegedly fleeing helping them leave? The answer is remittances, the money sent back home by so-called "migrants." Asylum is in large part a colossal scam designed to provide Latin American countries with both a safety valve and a cash cow of foreign exchange. In 2017, remittances sent back to Honduras totaled $4.33 billion and make up a significant part of the Honduran economy.

The issue of the wall isn't funding. It's cost effectiveness. Something a simple mind like you doesn't understand.

It's more cost effective than giving Iran money to kill our troops. HTH

Swaye said:

Land mines is a good idea actually. Bury thousands of them in a 100 yard strip along the entire length of the border. Mark it appropriately. If you make it past the mines you are in. Who needs a wall? Full on Running Man style entertainment right there, and you only get people who are supremely motivated to be Americans. Also lucky.

Worked at Guantanamo for a long time!

Back them up with drones. Those drone pilots need training anyway why not at the border? Hellfire missiles are pricey though!